03-29-2006, 03:00 AM
new alliances for the Great House War.... that's what we need
So we obviously have Helseth's guys and anti-helseth guys
there are the Nords that play a great role...
there are Redoran single-handedly fighting the Nords while being in severe decline....
there are the Dres and Hlaalu which are now ganging up on Indoril...
the Telvanni are neutral in all this... or are for now...
so lets put it all together
this is what I think.... Indoril, though its leadership is lacking as a large suicides and political coups has weaknened it, has a large martial tradition... so it is taking longer to take down Indoril than it should if they weren't tough folks. I think the Indoril will play a lrole in our mod... where should the Indoril refugees and soldiers go for refuge? Vvardenfell. And also, I think the Dres would get some rewards, holdings on Vvardenfell, to make them equals to Hlaalu.... in the sense that they can have territory on Vvardenfell also...
but the Nordic threat is not only a danger to Redoran whom are defending all Morrowind against them, but to all. But what if Helseth actually arranged it? what if he had the Nords attack Redoran knowing it would distract and stall the warrior-House and weaken them if they succeeded in defense, if not, the job is already done and the Nords would be too weakened in the struggle to contend with Hlaalu-Dres armies... or better, maybe he even had the Nords as a secret ally?
now lets put all this formulated ideas into results
so could it be that....
Helseth Alliance: Hlaalu, Imperial/Helseth, Dres, Nords?
(AKA- Revolutionaries)
this will be Great House Hlaalu, the forces of Helseth and the Imperials under his command, the Great House Dres, and the invading Nords....
and then what about the others?
the Telvanni will get shredded up eventually like Redoran and Indoril who do not respect Helseth's rule...
and the betmeri that are now on Vvardenfell, freed and homeless...
and the ashlander tribes, they can't expect kindness from Helseth, infact he will probably be worse to them than the Imperials were...
I think the Redoran and Telvanni and the betmer and the ashlanders should ally... and Indoril can come too...
so something like this....
*Northern Alliance: Redoran, Telvanni, Betmeri, Ashlanders, Indoril*
(AKA- Traditionalists)
this will be Redoran reluctantly but out of necessity allying with the Telvanni who gather ashlanders and betmer.... the Redoran have Indoril refugees... driven from their homeland, filled with a thirst for vengeance.... and hoping to start a new life on Vvardenfell...
what are the consequences?
now you obviously know.... the Helseth alliance is wealthier, has more troops, and has one really good leader....
the "northern" alliance has devoted troops, strong leaders..... but is not wealthy and not as numerous
so you have here the declining side and the rising side... if the traditionalists are victorious, they probably couldn't take over, but they coul dhave respect and stability, and have a lot of say in the Helseth gov't.... if Helseth wins as everyone thinks... then you basically have a Hlaalu-Dres dominated Morrowind...
betmeri, especially orcs & goblins hate Nords, Argonians hate especially Dres Dunmer... the Ashlanders really hate Imperials, the Telvanni hate anyone who doesn't leave them alone.... Redoran is in competition with Hlaalu, Indoril now hates both Hlaalu and Dres.... they must feel so betrayed... yes it seems that the traditionalists have a chance.... albeit, a slim one.... but together they do have a chance.... but there is going to be a lot of reconciling... betmer never liked Telvanni slavery, Indoril is proud and snobby, Redoran and ashlanders have a hatred.... but united they may stand, disunited they WILL FALL!
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alright, that's what I have to say.... anyone want to pitch in?
I could not think of Redoran standing any chance if Dres has left them and Indoril are being picked apart.... therefore I had to add in Telvanni, not much but its something....
EDIT:
***oh and Northern Alliance makes me think of Afghanistan... HELP ME OUT!
So we obviously have Helseth's guys and anti-helseth guys
there are the Nords that play a great role...
there are Redoran single-handedly fighting the Nords while being in severe decline....
there are the Dres and Hlaalu which are now ganging up on Indoril...
the Telvanni are neutral in all this... or are for now...
so lets put it all together
this is what I think.... Indoril, though its leadership is lacking as a large suicides and political coups has weaknened it, has a large martial tradition... so it is taking longer to take down Indoril than it should if they weren't tough folks. I think the Indoril will play a lrole in our mod... where should the Indoril refugees and soldiers go for refuge? Vvardenfell. And also, I think the Dres would get some rewards, holdings on Vvardenfell, to make them equals to Hlaalu.... in the sense that they can have territory on Vvardenfell also...
but the Nordic threat is not only a danger to Redoran whom are defending all Morrowind against them, but to all. But what if Helseth actually arranged it? what if he had the Nords attack Redoran knowing it would distract and stall the warrior-House and weaken them if they succeeded in defense, if not, the job is already done and the Nords would be too weakened in the struggle to contend with Hlaalu-Dres armies... or better, maybe he even had the Nords as a secret ally?
now lets put all this formulated ideas into results
so could it be that....
Helseth Alliance: Hlaalu, Imperial/Helseth, Dres, Nords?
(AKA- Revolutionaries)
this will be Great House Hlaalu, the forces of Helseth and the Imperials under his command, the Great House Dres, and the invading Nords....
and then what about the others?
the Telvanni will get shredded up eventually like Redoran and Indoril who do not respect Helseth's rule...
and the betmeri that are now on Vvardenfell, freed and homeless...
and the ashlander tribes, they can't expect kindness from Helseth, infact he will probably be worse to them than the Imperials were...
I think the Redoran and Telvanni and the betmer and the ashlanders should ally... and Indoril can come too...
so something like this....
*Northern Alliance: Redoran, Telvanni, Betmeri, Ashlanders, Indoril*
(AKA- Traditionalists)
this will be Redoran reluctantly but out of necessity allying with the Telvanni who gather ashlanders and betmer.... the Redoran have Indoril refugees... driven from their homeland, filled with a thirst for vengeance.... and hoping to start a new life on Vvardenfell...
what are the consequences?
now you obviously know.... the Helseth alliance is wealthier, has more troops, and has one really good leader....
the "northern" alliance has devoted troops, strong leaders..... but is not wealthy and not as numerous
so you have here the declining side and the rising side... if the traditionalists are victorious, they probably couldn't take over, but they coul dhave respect and stability, and have a lot of say in the Helseth gov't.... if Helseth wins as everyone thinks... then you basically have a Hlaalu-Dres dominated Morrowind...
betmeri, especially orcs & goblins hate Nords, Argonians hate especially Dres Dunmer... the Ashlanders really hate Imperials, the Telvanni hate anyone who doesn't leave them alone.... Redoran is in competition with Hlaalu, Indoril now hates both Hlaalu and Dres.... they must feel so betrayed... yes it seems that the traditionalists have a chance.... albeit, a slim one.... but together they do have a chance.... but there is going to be a lot of reconciling... betmer never liked Telvanni slavery, Indoril is proud and snobby, Redoran and ashlanders have a hatred.... but united they may stand, disunited they WILL FALL!
[/hr]
alright, that's what I have to say.... anyone want to pitch in?
I could not think of Redoran standing any chance if Dres has left them and Indoril are being picked apart.... therefore I had to add in Telvanni, not much but its something....
EDIT:
***oh and Northern Alliance makes me think of Afghanistan... HELP ME OUT!