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Arcadea Administrator Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 48 |

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:11 am Post subject: Revealing |

I'll be anouncing latter next wee about this forum and project.

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Arcadea Administrator Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 48 |

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:33 am Post subject: Speech to TR's core |

This will be the message I send to the core? As Most of you know Myself and other members of Tamriel Rebuilt have been working on organisation and the gathering of information for Oblivion we belive it is a nessasity that we be perpared and fully orgniased when we make the transiotion over. Garfiled has been kind enough to help me in createing a forum for this group. As it has been decieded so long ago that we would work on Skyrim as the next province I have looked at what other groups have been l thinking about working on such groups like Silgrad Tower wich will be working on Morrowind for this game and we are currently in talks about merging and collabartion with them. I thought it is about the right time to tell you all we have worked on and to ask when you belive it would be a right time to tell all of Tr that the forum is up and running since I'm shure we can all agree that Morrowind is a priority.
Sincerly
Arcadea

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Razorwing Administrator Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 28 |

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:54 am Post subject: |

Sounds good. Perhaps it would be wise for Haplo to take a look at it first, though?

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haplobartow Administrator Joined: 05 Apr 2005 Posts: 70 Location: Georgia, USA

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:39 pm Post subject: |

I'm here, read it, sounds excellent, but I've fixed some spelling problems, and added a tiny addition. --- As most of you know, myself and other members of Tamriel Rebuilt have been working on organizing and gathering information for Oblivion. We believe that it is a necessity that we be perpared and fully organized when we make the transition. Garfield has been kind enough to help me in creating a forum for this group. As it was decided so long ago that we would work on Skyrim as the next province, I have looked at what other groups have been thinking about working on in the future. Such groups like Silgrad Tower, which will be working on Morrowind for this game(Oblivion). We are currently in talks about merging and collaboration with them. I thought it was about time to tell all of you the entirety of what we have been working on, and to ask you when you believe the right time to be, to tell all of TR that the new forum is up and running, since I'm sure that we can all agree that Morrowind is a definite priority.
Sincerely,
Arcadea
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If that's good, then just copy and paste it for your post at TR.
But one thing first -
- When are you doing this?
- Where are you doing this?
- To whom are you intending this address?
- Who will see this?
- What do you think their(their being whomever you are saying this to) reactions will be?
- What are the possible consequences?
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Arcadea Administrator Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 48 |

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject: |

early this week. When are you doing this? early this week - Where are you doing this? TR Admin forum - To whom are you intending this address? the Core - Who will see this? The Core and HM
- What do you think their(their being whomever you are saying this to) reactions will be? Hopefully they won't care
- What are the possible consequences?
I could be thrown out of TR permantly and called a traitor
They may not care
They may have this group disbanded.
They may tell all of TR to dissassiosaciate with me.

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Razorwing Administrator Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 28 |

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:15 pm Post subject: |

Arcadea wrote:
early this week. - What are the possible consequences? I could be thrown out of TR permantly and called a traitor They may not care They may have this group disbanded.
They may tell all of TR to dissassiosaciate with me.

If they throw you guys out of Tamriel Rebuilt, you'll always have a home with Silgrad Tower (if you choose to join us then). But I don't think they will, especially not if they know you guys are in control of the domain name. If they push you out, just craft a new site and switch the domain name to forward to that, and they are gone > : - )

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haplobartow Administrator Joined: 05 Apr 2005 Posts: 70 Location: Georgia, USA

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 1:29 pm Post subject: |

Well, no offense, they can't really throw us out of TR(and I should hope not, it's been my home amongst strangers for the past 4 years!) for starting a new project. I know Arcadea knows this, as he told me himself: If anyone get's punished at all, it'll be Arcadea, and only Arcadea. He's the only one who's actually advertised for them or recruited members(besides me allowing Indoril) for this project. They can't shut us down either. They have no control over us as a group so all they can do is sit in their own little core forums and talk about how evil and bad we are, if that's their course of action.
However, there are only a few people in the Core I think will disagree with us strongly. Dexter being one, I sincerely hope he is never an Admin, no offense intended of course. Also, those with Mod powers(I believe only over their respective forums, or at least that's how it should be), such as Vernon will disagree. Vernon has always stood with Dexter, at least 99% of the time. Others, such as Sniper4, Eraser, and Stalker would probably encourage us whole-heartedly(especially seeing as how Sniper4 an Eraser are already part of this project! Stalker would be eager to join as well)
I think the Core, Majra especially, would be a lot warmer towards us as a whole if you didn't go around trying to recruit TR's 'best modders' with hints of 'high positions right off the bat'. I think you should just give everyone the same message, with no offers of moderator-ship or such, so that it's just a 'I'm doing a huge new project, would you like to become a member and help me?' type of message.
I'd post my opinions about Hermit too, but I'm not sure on his stance during the ST feud. If he was against ST, he'll definitely be against OTR. He was abysmal at his job the first week, but now he's excellent. The first two weeks of his core-ness, he got a little power-happy, but we all do, I think. No one is perfect at their job when they first get assigned it. It's like your first couple days as a reviewer, you're swamped, and you have no idea how to handle things. After a while, you get used to it, and start turning out reviews left and right.
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Those're my thoughts.
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Razorwing Administrator Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 28 |

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:01 am Post subject: |

haplobartow wrote:
Well, no offense, they can't really throw us out of TR(and I should hope not, it's been my home amongst strangers for the past 4 years!) for starting a new project. I know Arcadea knows this, as he told me himself: If anyone get's punished at all, it'll be Arcadea, and only Arcadea. He's the only one who's actually advertised for them or recruited members(besides me allowing Indoril) for this project. They can't shut us down either. They have no control over us as a group so all they can do is sit in their own little core forums and talk about how evil and bad we are, if that's their course of action.

Yes, arcadea will be welcome, then

haplobartow wrote:
However, there are only a few people in the Core I think will disagree with us strongly. Dexter being one, I sincerely hope he is never an Admin, no offense intended of course. Also, those with Mod powers(I believe only over their respective forums, or at least that's how it should be), such as Vernon will disagree. Vernon has always stood with Dexter, at least 99% of the time. Others, such as Sniper4, Eraser, and Stalker would probably encourage us whole-heartedly(especially seeing as how Sniper4 an Eraser are already part of this project! Stalker would be eager to join as well)

Hmm, the name Eraser rings a bell... I think I knew him in the early days when I joined Silgrad Tower, in march -04. Btw a Vernon has recently registered at Silgrad.com's forum. We are being watched intently, it would seem : o ) I don't mind, I haven't said anything I can't stand for.

haplobartow wrote:
I think the Core, Majra especially, would be a lot warmer towards us as a whole if you didn't go around trying to recruit TR's 'best modders' with hints of 'high positions right off the bat'. I think you should just give everyone the same message, with no offers of moderator-ship or such, so that it's just a 'I'm doing a huge new project, would you like to become a member and help me?' type of message.

I'm guessing that part isn't directed at me. I'm not recruiting anyone for OTR.

haplobartow wrote:
I'd post my opinions about Hermit too, but I'm not sure on his stance during the ST feud. If he was against ST, he'll definitely be against OTR.

This is a quote from Hermit, posted on TR's tavern September 28th, 2004, in the thread "the relationship with silgrad"; if you do a search for Silgrad Tower with all-terms option, the thread will be near the bottom of the page:
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Silgrad and TR were too far apart artistically. We decided to split for both projects' best. I am sad to hear that the project may not be finished ... but I made my choice to stay with TR. It was a hard choice, mind you ... but I don't regret it.
Also, there were some personal animosities on both side that, umm, werer ather detrimental to the project as a whole.
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I.e. it was a hard choice for him to choose between ST and TR, meaning he will probably be positive to the idea of cooperating. That's my interpretation from that particular quote, but of course, I don't know the man like you guys do.

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Arcadea Administrator Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 48 |

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:03 am Post subject: |

Hermit was a member of Silgrad Tower and Tamriel Rebuilt also he was one of the four members who started the core wars durring the Silgrad Conflict. He is one of my closer friends on the forums and we have worked together alot. He'll help us.
Members who started the Core Wars:
Hermit
Cep
Katse
Quentine

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Arcadea Administrator Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 48 |

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:44 am Post subject: |

I have posted in the admin forum of TR and dressed the core now I'll we can do is wait and hope it goes well.

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Razorwing Administrator Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 28 |

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:15 am Post subject: |

Arcadea wrote:
Hermit was a member of Silgrad Tower and Tamriel Rebuilt also he was one of the four members who started the core wars durring the Silgrad Conflict. He is one of my closer friends on the forums and we have worked together alot. He'll help us.
Members who started the Core Wars:
Hermit
Cep
Katse
Quentine

It's odd that there has never been an article written describing either the split between ST and TR, and the core wars. Not a detailed one anyway. I have no idea what the core wars is, I did a google search but found nothing. Is Quentine the same as our Quentin Fortune?

Arcadea wrote:
I have posted in the admin forum of TR and dressed the core now I'll we can do is wait and hope it goes well.

Looking forward to hearing what happens. I have my fingers crossed.

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Arcadea Administrator Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 48 |

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:30 pm Post subject: |

yes they are the same person and I'm hopping to write an article on the conflicts soon it's just that TR law forbids an talking of it and all documents and files were erased by the core after it was over.

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Razorwing Administrator Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 28 |

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:49 pm Post subject: |

Arcadea wrote:
yes they are the same person and I'm hopping to write an article on the conflicts soon it's just that TR law forbids an talking of it and all documents and files were erased by the core after it was over.

Deleting is always wrong, I think. It's better to move and store in a protected area. Looking forward to that article!

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haplobartow Administrator Joined: 05 Apr 2005 Posts: 70 Location: Georgia, USA

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:30 pm Post subject: |

I'm also looking forward to seeing it. The Core Wars was pretty much a huge fight(Hermit got VERY into it, lemme tell ya) between Core members, even though it wasn't started by them. Everyone took sides(I can't even remember what the original argument was), and started flaming/spamming the other side, and every was all pissed at everyone else. It ended with no winners, an deveryone ending up hurt, but we all banded together in the end.
I think the total count of threads after the Wars were over was around 17. Each thread was a good 5 pages at least.
There is no way that you'd find it on a crawler search engine like Google.
For one, the Core Wars were disposed of nearly immediately after they were over.
Also, most of the more malicious content was in protected forums. Ah, I wish I still had access to those. *sighs*
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Arcadea Administrator Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 48 |

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:07 am Post subject: |

thier is one place were those files could still be intact and one person who might still have them and that's valderan.

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