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Rodan
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You should have my special ring then.
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12.07.2006 17:26 |
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raggidman
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The Solstheim thing is part of Oblivion and accepted by the Vvardenfell
team too, so I think that is essential, and might I suggest agreed?
If so then that is the public face of events, with ours to decide the
causes thereof. The next question will be what are the sub-issues that
affect the general pattern of events. With other mods I keep trying to
redirect people to the Lore, and to be sensible, but I feel that this
discussion has given plenty of sensible, so there is definitely room
here to add some excitement. Clearly there will be no avoiding Gates.
The big question is what else?
For that I believe I would have to go back and play the original
Blacklight to discover the Lore, so let's go forwards another way.
Maybe we are underestimating the Orcs for example - remember Orsinium.
What are they really up to? Not simply running about smashing and
killing. Isn't it about time someone introduced an Orc Noble? Did any
of you meet the Orc King in Daggerfall?
Is there someting in the Ancient past of the area that might be
emerging at this time? Not simply the Mer, but pre-mer? Such as Nord
Myths and Legends? They were in Morrowind before the Mer, but what
predated the Mer? Could there be the dark face behind the Nord
invasion? Perhaps a great terror or shame?
Anyone remember the tomb of the Nord King in the area near Azura's
Shrine, with the viking ship in the deep cavern under the dunmer tomb?
Surely that was not the only one. And natch Mournhold was built on an
ancient battleground... time to get deep down and inventive methinks...
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13.07.2006 00:37 |
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IAMTHEEMPEROR
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Ok, here is the story behind the Mythic Dawn: The mythic dawn are a
Daedra cult in service of their lord Dagon. Mankar Camoran, their
leader, gets a message saying that Dagon wants to take back his plane
of Oblivion (aka Tamriel). To do this, there would need to be a way to
get people from oblivion to Tamriel, so thus was the Oblivion Gate idea
formed. however, magical forces of the Aedra (pretty much just Akatosh)
prevented such things from happening after Oblivion gates were opened
many many years before in the times of Alessia. To make these barriers,
there was a pact between man and god and the Amulet of Kings was
created to uphold that pact. The amulet of kings is used to light the
dragonfires which keep said barrier working, but only one of royal
blood (ancestor of the pact of Akatosh) could use the amulet to light
the fire. The mythic dawn knew of this, and had to break the barrier
any way they could, so they needed to end the line. the plan was to
take out the Emperor, Uriel Septim, but if they did that first, the
amulet would be passed down to one of his sons and the world would be
on to the Mythic Dawn, so they need to kill the sons and make it look
like meaningless assasinations for someone to gain power or something
along those lines. After they took out Uriel's Sons, then they could
move on the Emperor himself with no one to stop them. They killed the
bearer of the amulet, and thus the dragonfires stopped working, the
barrier dissappeared, and that enabled the Mythic Dawn to open portals
to let Oblivion's forces through. After all hope is lost, it turns out
Uriel has an unknown son who becomes Emperor but fails to re-light the
dragonfires, instead being transformed into the avatar (pretty much the
embodiment) of Akatosh who defeats dagon and creates an eternal barrier
to protect Tamriel. When your charecter completes the main quest, all
Oblivion gates close and people stop talking about gates that have
opened up on who knows where. Having oblivion gates seems impossible
for Skyrim and Blacklight or anywhere for that matter, so I could only
think of a few things:
1. what if the gods were displeased at the numbers of Daedra
worshippers in Morrowind and removed them from the barrier's protection
to teach them to meddle with Daedra.
2. Though gates are closed, people can still summon, so what if they
summoned an army of Daedra and made it look like another oblivion gate?
EDIT: this also shows that the Mythic Dawn care not of political
affairs and who gains power as long as it dosn't interrupt their own
plans, so the assasination of Uriel was not a declaration of power and
recognition, but as a means to serve Mehrunes Dagon.
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Psychotic
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Originally posted by Leviathan
Maybe they are being manipulated by an imposter claiming to be King
Wulfharth reborn. He could claim that the path to the Sovngarde is
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I don't think that the nords would fall for that. If they do attack it
would be for the purpose of pure profit and love of battle.
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25.08.2006 06:00 |
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Leviathan
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Well sometimes all it takes to start a war is a single determined madman.
People go to war for the most stupid of reasons imaginable. So why do the Nords need a righteous cause anyway?
If there is anything I have learned from playing TES games is that
Tamriel is full with jerks. And that is what made Morrowind such a
great game. Peoples lack of morale and lack of doing the right thing
just like in our world.
There is enough good guys in Oblivion already.
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25.08.2006 06:16 |
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Psychotic
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The thing is the Dunmer already did the whole reborn hero thing with
Nerevar and it wouldn't look very original if another great
hero/character of Tamrielic lore claims to be back in the world of the
living.
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25.08.2006 06:19 |
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Leviathan
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That is true.
We don't want to repeat old story lines.
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25.08.2006 06:32 |
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raggidman
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Think I sort of agree that I don't want to repeat the same things, but
if there is a new take on the old thing that is sufficiently
compelling...?
Please do not forget that one of the prime functions of the artifacts
known as the Elder Scrolls is that THE ELDER SCROLLS ARE TOOLS OF
PROPHESY. So maybe we have to accept prophesy as an important part of
every Elder Scrolls game? And so we should not be shy about using that
card, so long as we use it well...
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survived. These virtues belong to silence.
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But, if one man does nothing can he be said to be good? raggidman
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26.08.2006 13:40 |
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KuKulzA
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but not in a way that is repetitive....
remember hope of the Redoran? that guy was prophesized the bring the
hope of the Redoran but actually brought out Athyn Sarethi in a duel
who proved to be a great Councilor later on after defeating his cousin
who was in that prophecy of Boethiah's |
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26.08.2006 14:26 |
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raggidman
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is there no end to it all???? 
hope not!
made a thread on this and other topics that we seem to be skirting here in the Common Room
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loyalty is not to be spoken of and honour is to be endured. Whilst
courage is to be survived. These virtues belong to silence.
Steven Erikson.
But, if one man does nothing can he be said to be good? raggidman
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26.08.2006 14:58 |
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raggidman
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just thought, you don't think that one of the 
naked nords is holding a grudge? 
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loyalty is not to be spoken of and honour is to be endured. Whilst
courage is to be survived. These virtues belong to silence.
Steven Erikson.
But, if one man does nothing can he be said to be good? raggidman
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