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this is just a not so constructive thread...
why is it called Blacklight?
my wild guess is that long ago, a meteor fell from the sky in this
spot, and the Redoran built a city around or near it, and as the
fragments of the dark space-rock glowed, they called it Black-light...
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13.06.2006 02:39 |
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DarkAsmodeous
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Space... blegh... perhaps an everburning black flame? I like fire.
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KuKulzA
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black fire?
I dunno... maybe the Dwemer gave the Redoran a HUGE keg of pyroil tar
that would last centuries... (and plus it burns for a long time) and it
burned an oily black smoke with bright orange-red fire...
they were given this as a beacon to warn against Nords... ?
maybe? 
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17.06.2006 06:16 |
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The devs thought it sounded cool, exotic, and imposing while creating
Arena. Perfect for the land of the dunmer. I think it had something to
do with magic though, don't know exactly what though, but ancient magic
having to do with"Black Light" is always interesting. |
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17.06.2006 06:29 |
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KuKulzA
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Originally posted by Siegfried
The devs thought it sounded cool, exotic, and imposing while creating
Arena. Perfect for the land of the dunmer. I think it had something to
do with magic though, don't know exactly what though, but ancient magic
having to do with"Black Light" is always interesting. |
yeah... maybe they learned to use UV lights... "black light"
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17.06.2006 06:34 |
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Rodan
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It's called Blacklight because that is the original name from Arena. This may help
Edit: My server is not allowing me to get the map up. I'll get it to you 
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17.06.2006 08:05 |
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17.06.2006 16:19 |
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Razorwing
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Originally posted by Lady Nerevar
as gez said, I think the name relates to auroras. I think I rember
reading so somewhere at some time.... (but then again, I may be
confucing it) |
His idea isn't bad, but what I was mostly curious was if there was any
evidence or indications from Bethesda about the name. If there isn't
any I bet we (or Rodan) can think of a good explanation.
My own theory (which
I think I came up with back in late -01 when I was planning to mod
Blacklight for Morrowind; I didn't discover Morrowind as a player, I
decided to get involved in it rather than NWN because it sounded like
it was better suited to what I wanted to mod) was
that the town was controlled by evil mages, who had created a device in
the center of town that kept the city shrouded in a dark permanent
night. I.e. the device emanated black light.
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18.06.2006 00:39 |
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Razorwing
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Originally posted by Lady Nerevar
well, my real problem with that idea is that its uber. not everything
has a profound and historicly segnificant reason for its naming.
beth most likley had no reason what so ever to name balcklight
blackligh (or any otehr city its name) becase the names were mostly
name-gen names. |
Back then I didn't know anything about Elder Scrolls and had planned to
split the town in three parts between Argonians, Nords and Dunmer who
warred with each other.
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18.06.2006 00:52 |
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KuKulzA
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hey, though not very TES it would be interesting...
would be like putting dwarves, elves, men, and orcs (lord of the rings) all together in a small prison cell... haha... hahaha
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18.06.2006 03:39 |
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Razorwing
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Originally posted by KuKulzA
would be like putting dwarves, elves, men, and orcs (lord of the rings) all together in a small prison cell... haha... hahaha |
He he he. Thinking about that makes me think of at least five very indecent "my precious" jokes 
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18.06.2006 03:53 |
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Rodan
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own theory (which I think I came up with back in late -01 when I was
planning to mod Blacklight for Morrowind; I didn't discover Morrowind
as a player, I decided to get involved in it rather than NWN because it
sounded like it was better suited to what I wanted to mod) was that the
town was controlled by evil mages, who had created a device in the
center of town that kept the city shrouded in a dark permanent night.
I.e. the device emanated black light. |
When I was first admitted into TR they let me keep the name Blacklight
when I claimed the area. When I was an administrator I was letting
members use a lore name for different villages, towns, and cities. The
only name I actually argued in Morrowind was Dragon Glade, the member
there wanted to change it. So a lot of these 'lore names' did not match
the ones from the original Arena. There actually was no "Port
Telvannis" in the original as well but was designed as well. It may
have been in a book in Daggerfall or Morrowind but was never included
in the original.
I never wanted to stick to the strickness of Arena, things have to
evolve, but sticking to the letter of the lore does not help anyone.
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19.06.2006 00:57 |
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Gez
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19.06.2006 12:28 |
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Rodan
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Not to make an argument of it. There was no Port Telvannis in the
original Arena game. It was added later. The development of the city
was designed by TR, not Bethsoft. We have a team that wants to recreate
the city for Oblivion but it will take awhile.
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19.06.2006 13:05 |
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Razorwing
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Something interesting cropped up in the ESF thread.
Ananke-Mormo said:
The Arena document about King Bubba and such suggested that
Blacklight and Firewatch both got their names from the mountain between
them.
What do you guys make of it? I haven't heard about 'King Bubba' before.
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20.06.2006 09:48 |
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Rodan
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I've been playing computer games for a long time. There is no "King
Bubba". I have as well searching through the Daggerfall towns and
cities that have no use to the main quest. That name does not appear
either.
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20.06.2006 19:51 |
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I was about to post an image of Bubba from Forrest Gump.
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20.06.2006 20:03 |
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Razorwing
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That's very interesting, thanks LN! I think I've seen that article once
or twice but *cough* as strange as the descriptions seemed, I haven't
read the preamble before. So I take it the game would automatically
generate "Title Name" every time you played, where the writer used
"King Bubba". So that would probably be why he used such a silly name -
to make it obvious that it wasn't based in real lore? At least I would
imagine so.
I don't know how closely we would need to rely on the document, but it
does give a very nice insight into what inspired some of Bethesda's
choice of town names. I never knew the titles Firewatch and Blacklight
both allured to Red Mountain halfway between them, but in hindsight it
makes perfect sense.
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20.06.2006 20:04 |
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Could the name be connected to something of an undead nature?
One thinks of Dark Magics in Ancient Days spreading a pall over the land...
Perhaps it was the focus of a powerful and evil spell
Maybe it was considered a haven for those dedicated to evil in Ancient Times...
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