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I really have no idea right now. I havn't had a whole lot of time to work on. I'm gonna have to print out all the history posts and try to piece everything together before any of it makes sense. But until then I don't know. I'll get back to you.
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um...Hello?
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Howdy :D

just checking to see if were alive?

Did you get your history files ?

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No not yet. Nobody has said anything though was just checking.
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Are you needing Ideas for Quest Developement ??

What exactly are you needing done? I can't mod for TES4 but I can help otherways


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Is Kedal lore based at all? Or are you guys just making this stuff all up?

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I do not believe it is lore based.

Steinaech would probably know more about where the idea came from than anyone.


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Its not based off lore but I'm working in lore that will support it
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I know we have talked briefly on the time ine of the Kedal Peoples origin has anything been decided on that, If we want to go with the Chimer arrival into Morrowind as thier begining time or we thinking sometime different ?

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Probably gonna stick with the Chimer
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Sounds Good

So then we need to write a history on them based off of that timeline and fit them best we can into the lore (the all is not known aspect) this gives an advantage.

I think the Idea Raggidman has to incorporate them as part of the Cerro Vampires might be good with some tweaking.

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What we had discussed was that these Chimer had broken off from the main group following Veloth into Morrowind, they settled in the Velothi Mountains, somewheres around where the Ancient Gate is now located.

During thier short stay, they were attacked by Vampires (the Imperial type)
though many died they endured these attacks for several days, they devised a plan to find aid, and split into 2 groups, the thought was that if the Vampires attacked again, one group or the other would sacrifice themselves so the other could get away....

However, on the next eve they were again attacked not completely ready to incorporate their plan, the attack was brutal, the Chimer were disoriented and disorganized, some that survived took to the north and some to the south, each thinking the others were killed. The group going north found refuge in a small cavern. The group which took to the south lost their attackers in the thick forrest and eventually made home their near a lake.

As time passed, the Northern group (the Kedal) had time to explore the cavern, they discovered the beginnings of Dwemer Archetecture and several dead Dwemer, as they journeyed deeper into the caverns they soon discovered the reason for the incomplete Construction and the dead dwemer, but it was allready too late.

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How is that so far?


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Sounds Good

So then we need to write a history on them based off of that timeline and fit them best we can into the lore (the all is not known aspect) this gives an advantage.

I think the Idea Raggidman has to incorporate them as part of the Cerro Vampires might be good with some tweaking.

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What we had discussed was that these Chimer had broken off from the main group following Veloth into Morrowind, they settled in the Velothi Mountains, somewheres around where the Ancient Gate is now located.

During thier short stay, they were attacked by Vampires (the Imperial type)
though many died they endured these attacks for several days, they devised a plan to find aid, and split into 2 groups, the thought was that if the Vampires attacked again, one group or the other would sacrifice themselves so the other could get away....

However, on the next eve they were again attacked not completely ready to incorporate their plan, the attack was brutal, the Chimer were disoriented and disorganized, some that survived took to the north and some to the south, each thinking the others were killed. The group going north found refuge in a small cavern. The group which took to the south lost their attackers in the thick forrest and eventually made home their near a lake.

As time passed, the Northern group (the Kedal) had time to explore the cavern, they discovered the beginnings of Dwemer Archetecture and several dead Dwemer, as they journeyed deeper into the caverns they soon discovered the reason for the incomplete Construction and the dead dwemer, but it was allready too late.

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How is that so far?


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Not really a lore guy myself, but I get the general notion of most of it. It sounds pretty good so far, what happened to the ones who went south? (probably a stupid question)

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Think you might read this again Bob: The Chimer and the - it is in Lit Dev.

The basics are solid and it incorporates most of what has been discussed and considered.

Staenaech I understand that you read it and at the time you seemed to think that it would fit - guess we're wondering where you are at now, and how you want to proceed.

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Again ?

I don't think I ever read it at all

Eek 1

Ok so axe my idea, now that I've read it were good :)



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The ones that went to the south were contaminated and became the Cerro Vampires.

But as above though in some case it still applies, remove my story and add Raggidmans


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That all sounds pretty well thought out. I assume that all the sruvivors still became Dunmer though, right? That'd be a pretty bad lore rape if they didn't when Azura changed all the others

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Yes they were all under Azura's Curse just the Kedal I suppose since they were in lockdown in the cavern probably would not have known


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The idea is that the Chimer were a migrating people.

The former Chimermer who found the Caverns that became Kedal did so a looong time before the events at Red Mountain, before the Great Houses, etc ... And they became a separate people, trapped as they were in their underground city, they ceased to have any connection with the Chimer, and they had already changed physically and o were unaffected by Azura's Curse = hopefully no Lore Rape? Wajja think? Is possible?

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Hmmm

This is quite possible, the curse of Azura was against the Chimer, however these that seperated from Veloth to become the Kedal, had never known of the events which took place at Red Mountain. So its possible that she may have excluded them from the curse

However, likewise the Dwemer were (killed, displaced or otherwise removed) from Nirn for the mockery of the gods, but the Clan Rourken had seperated from the rest of the Dwemer and were not involved in the Red Mountain incident, yet the too were (killed, displaced or otherwise) removed


So I suppose It could be possible


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It probably doesn't really matter whether they're technically Dumner or Chimer, as they're not going to look like either...more like hideous albino mole-people from some 50s B-movie

The way around it would probably be to not make direct reference to their exact race...say they were Chimer at the time they got stuck down there, but don't go into detail about whether they changed with everyone else or not I suppose

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Ahhh! The mess is getting worse >.<

You guys have to remember the Guardians of Kedal, the Hall of Ancients, the attackers that were let loose from the Dark Oasis and all of that too, becuase the Kedalins are under a curse placed by the King of the Dark Oasis.
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