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KuKulzA
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Originally posted by Siegfried
I sense a demonic necromancer cultist assassin slave trading mafia comming here Brew

About the elves though, they've totally severed connection with the outside world, and now hide away in their forests. So they wouldn't purchase slaves, plus their architecture is magically "grown".

how.... stereotypical... grown...
"oh we're elves and we're also tree huggers with pointy ears and we like plants and we grow our homes, we're real natural and we can talk to animals and heal people with our hands and like the forest and shoot with bows and we feel that humans find us attractive since we wear very little clothing and we have big breasts, despite being very athletic and having night vision and being very environmentalists who don't mind killing creatures in other lands cause they are evil, but we aren;t cause we're good so its okay to kill things we don't like...
we're elves... :D "

well its a good but overused idea in my opinion.... what if they don't grow their homes..... their homes get made for them... what if they kill giant forest badger things and use their dens... or maybe they pray to their god long enough and the diety will create a home... liek Daedra made the Daedric shrines/ruins... I dunno
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What if they "sang" their homes? Basically they sing to the tree spirit, and the trees slowly morph into the form that would be useable for a home.

Hmm, the problem with getting a way from the "high and mighty we're perfect" thing with the elves, is that generally the role that elves are meant to play in a fantasy racial heirarchy is the uber sophisticated peace loving secret protecting pretty people. I kind of want these elves to be like that, but at the same time as you get to know them, it turns out they aren't so great. Their society has become stagnant and decadent from years of isolationism. Their culture is hypocritical (and maybe they will have some dark secret)?
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how about something like....

long ago on this land they were the rulers of all, everyone was in a confederation led by them.... however as they became arrogant and powerful they misused their power...
beastfolk refused to deforestate some of their sacred groves and the elves turned the trees to evil spirit tree to kill the beast-folk.... and terrorized the men and raped their women... and caused the volcano to erupt just for show out of vanity... and wasted lots of resources... and caused storms to wash over farms just to make the slaved men reseed it all and then once looked at a gift from all the under-nations, a giant golden statue of the lord with materials adn labor from all the creatures as a way to humble and appeal for kindness but the elven lord blasted it with a fire-ball and melted it, and said that it didn't look good enough and wasn't big enough...
and so the underlings revolted and routed all the elves into their capitol though weakened after that... and their shamans and priests used special measures and rituals to keep the elves locked in their city...
and so they began to starve... and so they beseeched to an evil diety to give them a safe home and a way to live if they could escape...
and so their now live in a cursed forest that is silent and would put any foreigner to sleep at the roots of the giant trees if they do not know the password or are not one of the elves... but the elves now must sacrifice their souls to the evil god to maintain the protective forest and to keep the forest creatures and magical homes alive in order to survive...


I dunno

so although the elves are still proud they hide the fact (from the current generations of other races) that they were the big bad arrogant bad guys that myths make them seem but most beastfolk and men can no longer remember and are only fainlty recalled in the myths....

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Originally I was thinking that before the sundering the Armugians had conquered everyone and then established a kind of pseudo-democracy.

Maybe the nations all live in peace under the Armugian democracy, but there is some kind of a law voted on and passed (since it is a democracy) that the elves are bitterly opposed too, say it takes some of their land away for logging purposes (yeah I really need something better). Now, this really hurts the ego's of the elves. One of the Elven Generals rallies his men and takes them to the site of the land that is meant to be taken over for whatever reasons and kills the lumbejacks. The Armugians then dispatch forces to challenge the elves. The elves are able to route the men with the help of the forest spirits. Furious, the Armugians attack an elven settlement and slaughter its inhabitants.

Relations between the elves and the rest of the world are disintegrating, especially with humans. Things get bad to the point where the Elven General is able to become military-dictator of the elves. From there he proceeds in waging a war against the rest of the world. Most elven offensives fail, as the elves are severely outnumbered, but they fend off all attacks, because they are able to call on the forest spirits and creatures for aid.

Eventually the humans get fed up and call together their mages and start a massive forest fire. Where there is desert now, once that was all forest. Thousands of elves are killed. In a last ditch effort to stop the fires, the elves make a pact with Daedra X, and in return he moves the tectonic plate, creating the massive gorge at the top of the desert so the fires can advance no farther, and the elven capital is saved. The flip side is that movement of the plate triggered massive earthquakes all across Senaria, parts of land actually fell into the ocean. It also caused the massive and up until that point dormant volcano that the Armugians had bulit their capital on to errupt. The eruption was so extreme that it blasted Armugia away from the main land, not to mention obliderated the capital city, killing countless leaders from across Senaria.

Now their is total chaos. Pretty much everyone hates the elves, well, the humans at least. The problem is that the humans are in complete dissarray, they have no idea what to do without the Armugians in charge. The Beast races aren't any better off. Their more tribal culture allows them to cope with the loss of leadership better, but at the same time they have less unity and sophistication than the human races.

The elven general seizes the oppurtunity to gain the upper hand during the dissarray. Daedra X demands sacrifices for moving the tectonic plate, but the elves don't have a way to repay him. If he starts going out and capturing people and sacrifincing them himself, the elven general fears he will be overthrown. So he develops an insidious plot. He sends one of his wizards to the capital of the noble raptor men, then the wizard places a mind control spell over the raptor man leader. From there the wizard manipulates the raptor man leader to spread propoganda making raptor man culture violent so the raptor men will worship Daedra X and make the sacrifices to him.

The next step is to find a way to quietly acquire sacrifices for Daedra X. At this point in time many more beast races existed on Senaria. The elven general realizes that at this point the humans are rallying and organizing themselves, but they have yet to integrate the beast races. So he begins spreading lies ammongst them that this is a war against humans, and that humans are allying to enslave the other races. While the warriors of the beast races are off doing battle against the humans, the raptor men's thugs quietly make the women, children, and weak who stayed home "disappear" to satiate Daedra X's hunger. The Fairies and Satyrs were the only ones spared (besides the raptor men, who were doing the killing), because the elves viewed them like younger siblings.

When the human mages incinerated the big peace of forest, the death of the spirits caused a reaction on the elves that did not die. They were transformed into the manbeasts, though deeply scarred emotionally, they retained their memories and minds. They sought out help from their brethren, but were reviled. The elves saw them as abominations and tried to enslave them, but the manbeasts fought free. They fled into the deserts and fought with a vengeance against their former people-- and so began their savage culture.

There was one beast race (the suggested monkey men) that dwelt high in the southern moutains. They felt they would be safe there, and sought to remain neutral. They had seen enough destruction. When they refused to ally with the elves, the raptor man attacked their most vulnerable village, sacked it, and dragged off the villagers to be sacrfices. Furious, the beast race joined forces with the humans and fought valiantly against the elven general and his followers. By the wars end, they were almost completely extinct, and the survivors chose to vanish into the mountains.

So to make a long story short, the elven warlord is out of control. Finally the humans, undecided beast race, and manbeasts pull it together under one mighty hero. They drive the raptor men back into their jungles and seal them away there. The main force (about a third of them are needed to keep the raptor men under control) of the allies cross the desert and beat their way through the forests to the elven capital, eventually conquering it. The elven general is empowered by Daera X though, and beats his way out of the city. The human hero chases him down and battles him, killing him in the end. Where his blood was spilled, the land is corrupted and the forest becomes cursed.

So, finally there is peace, but the peace and harmony of the old days has been obliderated, the land torn apart, races exterminated, others corrupted, and massive casualties on the parts of the survivers. The elves, satyrs, and fairies seal themselves away from the rest of the world. The raptor men are to broken and corrupt to fight the outside world, and so turn on eachother. During the lifetime of the hero the different human races and the manbeasts live in peace together. After his death though politics takes its course, the various cultures begin quarreling ammongst eachother, the manbeasts are chased out into the deserts. Eventually it all breaks a part into the modern day nations.

.wow.. that was like a complete history of Senaria...

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huh... we're both creative Wink

I like the story... anymore stories uncle Siegfried? or... do I have to go to bed now? :lmao:
really it was good... but I will probably reread it a few times... just to get it down
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huh... we're both creative Wink

I like the story... anymore stories uncle Siegfried? or... do I have to go to bed now? :lmao:
really it was good... but I will probably reread it a few times... just to get it down

I'm burned out, that was way longer than I had planned. I'm gonna work on the HM a bit more and then go to bed probably.
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