High Hrothgar/Throat of the World Architecture Discussion |
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The only lore we have on it is that it is a tower at the top of High
Hrothgar in Skyrim, and that it is spirtually important to the nords.
Have a search at TIL for more lore
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11.08.2006 07:42 |
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Wintercross
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Ok, thanks.
I'll see what I can do yeah?
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11.08.2006 07:45 |
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Krisi-_
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
You could make a few concepts of the throat of the world.
One should be a version if the Falmer created it.
Another should be one the nords created. |
The Falmer created it.. no doubt... but it is a mountain.. all Towers take a mythical form..
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11.08.2006 09:42 |
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Actually Krisi-_ Hrothgar is the mountain and The Throat of the Word is
the tower, also known simply as Snow-Throat(Or something along the
lines).
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11.08.2006 12:57 |
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Siegfried
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Originally posted by Krisi-_
whose apex is only half here |
Welcome to Skryim for Oblivion
Got to keep that in mind, the top of the mountain is only half there,
so High Hrothgar might be like a castle built into a cliff face.
Personally I think that Hrothgar would probably look like an
integration of Ayleid and Nordic architectural styles. |
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11.08.2006 14:36 |
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Krisi-_
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its just that some people take as the mountain is only haf in the world of nirn..
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11.08.2006 15:01 |
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Originally posted by Siegfried
Personally I think that Hrothgar would probably look like an integration of Ayleid and Nordic architectural styles. |
Exactly my thoughts.
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11.08.2006 16:13 |
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Krisi-_
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11.08.2006 16:35 |
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Originally posted by Siegfried
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Originally posted by Krisi-_
whose apex is only half here |
Welcome to Skryim for Oblivion
Got to keep that in mind, the top of the mountain is only half there,
so High Hrothgar might be like a castle built into a cliff face.
Personally I think that Hrothgar would probably look like an
integration of Ayleid and Nordic architectural styles. |
I recon it was probably built by the Falmer, but then Decayed. The
Nords would of rebuilt parts and added on after that, so you would get
something like a Carved wooden ceiling and then you would have a
marble/Ice wall with a Ayleid Design carving in it, or prehaps even
symbols done in Glow mapping.
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11.08.2006 22:00 |
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I've said this before and nobody has challenge me on it, but my plan to
appease people who said Falmer were just Ayleids living in Skyrim
(there are accounts of there existence in Skyrim), and those who say
Falmer were their own race is that the Falmer were originally a group
of Ayleids, but had their own culture, archtiectural style, and were
not a part of the rest of the Ayleid Empire. However when the conflict
with the Nord's began and they often found themselves driven from their
cities and into the freezing mountains, their elven constitutions
didn't feel well and massive ammounts of their number froze to death,
so they cut a deal with an extremely powerful Frost Atronach to help
them gain Frost Resistance and an upper hand against the Nords. This is
how they acquired their blue-silver-white appearce.
Their architecture would have always been unique, however since when
they migrated to Skyrim the first thing they would have done is create
their own tower of creatia, now this likely would have been before they
had a chance to learn to manipulate ice and such to create their homes,
so High Hrothgar would be built in the traditional Ayleid Architectural
style. Also they may have built their cities in locations that aren't
permanently frozen in the traditional Ayleid style, otherwise their
cities would melt. |
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11.08.2006 23:17 |
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Originally posted by Siegfried
I've said this before and nobody has challenge me on it, but my plan to
appease people who said Falmer were just Ayleids living in Skyrim
(there are accounts of there existence in Skyrim), and those who say
Falmer were their own race is that the Falmer were originally a group
of Ayleids, but had their own culture, archtiectural style, and were
not a part of the rest of the Ayleid Empire. However when the conflict
with the Nord's began and they often found themselves driven from their
cities and into the freezing mountains, their elven constitutions
didn't feel well and massive ammounts of their number froze to death,
so they cut a deal with an extremely powerful Frost Atronach to help
them gain Frost Resistance and an upper hand against the Nords. This is
how they acquired their blue-silver-white appearce.
Their architecture would have always been unique, however since when
they migrated to Skyrim the first thing they would have done is create
their own tower of creatia, now this likely would have been before they
had a chance to learn to manipulate ice and such to create their homes,
so High Hrothgar would be built in the traditional Ayleid Architectural
style. Also they may have built their cities in locations that aren't
permanently frozen in the traditional Ayleid style, otherwise their
cities would melt. |
Unless they built their Arcitecture with a material similar to
Stalhirm(Which I expect the nords stole of them). And would also
provide an explantion for Castle Karstaag.
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11.08.2006 23:22 |
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Siegfried
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Do you think the Fortress of Ice was Falmer in origin? Krisi-_ could
you do a lore check on that for me? I think it was created by some old
wizard, as it existed in Arena, years before the introduction of
Ayleids into lore. |
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11.08.2006 23:29 |
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I don't think the Wizard created it, Also it would be a lot more intresting if it was Falmer in Origin.
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11.08.2006 23:50 |
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Krisi-_
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Originally posted by Siegfried
Do you think the Fortress of Ice was Falmer in origin? Krisi-_ could
you do a lore check on that for me? I think it was created by some old
wizard, as it existed in Arena, years before the introduction of
Ayleids into lore. |
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Shalidor, according to the old texts, made his home in the Fortress of Ice. |
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get the place, the Eternal Champion had to consult with Mages Guild in
Winterhold which was in feud with the knights of Fortress of Ice. The
mages wanted the champion to infiltrate the fortress to recover a
magical tablet that would help decipher a part of the Elder Scrolls.
This piece completed a map to the Labyrinthian. |
doesnt really say who..
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Shalidor himself lives in a citadel called The Fortress of Ice.
"Tamrielic Artifacts" says that Shalidor once has fought the Dwemer of
The Rourken Clan. The Rourken Clan is one of the Dwemer clans that
refused to make peace with the Chimer in the forming of the First
Council in Velothi. Instead they exile themselves out of the land, to
the west, to Hammerfell. It's possible that during the long march to
Hammerfell, the Rourken Clan clashes with Archmage Shalidor. The
artifact Spellbreaker is the powerful Dwemeri shield that is used in
the battle. The shield is able to reflect magicks or silencing any
mage. |
So I got no idea.. and ESF lore forums speakulate about it too..
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The guy also lived in a Castle of Ice and his name isn't Nordic, so he's might verry well be a Falmer. |
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12.08.2006 00:09 |
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Krisi-_
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well.. I figure the Falmer build Snow-Troat and High Hrothgar is nordic
but thats just me.. and since Snow Troat is the mountain.. well how did
they make it
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12.08.2006 00:19 |
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Originally posted by Krisi-_
well.. I figure the Falmer build Snow-Troat and High Hrothgar is nordic
but thats just me.. and since Snow Troat is the mountain.. well how did
they make it
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They couldn't buid a mountain, and there is no lore supporting it.
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12.08.2006 00:21 |
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Originally posted by Krisi-_
well how did they make it
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It's MAGIC!
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12.08.2006 00:25 |
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Originally posted by Krisi-_
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Originally posted by Psychotic
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Originally posted by Krisi-_
well how did they make it
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It's MAGIC!
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speak towards: now this likely would have been before they had a chance to learn to manipulate ice
and such to create their homes, so High Hrothgar would be built in the
traditional Ayleid Architectural style. (not that I like the Ayleid
idea..) |
Could be, but Ice Towers would arguably look a lot cooler.
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12.08.2006 00:33 |
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I've done a quick concept sketch of this as such...
Wintercross Concept Art
Let me know what you guys think yeah?
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12.08.2006 07:51 |
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Siegfried
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But since the Nords had come the Ayleid Architecture style would have been integrated into their own style.
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12.08.2006 16:29 |
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Krisi-_
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Originally posted by Siegfried
But since the Nords had come the Ayleid Architecture style would have been integrated into their own style. |
probably but that cant be the Tower. (that would seam strange when the Tower is a mountain...)
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12.08.2006 16:41 |
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So what is the current plan for the throat of the world or whatever you wanna call it?
tower on a mountain?
fortress or something on a mountain?
just a realy big mountain?
I personaly like the tower on the mountain idea... just cause it would look awesome.. but hey, I'm jsut an artist
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14.08.2006 08:53 |
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Hmm... Looking at your concept art, I like it a lot... It's actually very inspiring.
I never imagined it that way, and it reminds me a bit of the Tower of
the Gods from LoZ, Windwaker... If anyone's ever played that... And I
think if whoever models the place uses your concept image as a base,
this could really turn out awesome!
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14.08.2006 08:56 |
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I was at school and I was doodling this throat of the world, its kinda
messy, but ill get a link up as soon as I can. The way I see High
Hrothgar is a huge tower atop a mountain maybe with a couple houses or
huts and such around it. The picture will explain it better, ill try to
have it up by tomorow
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I read online at the elder scrolls wiki that High Hrothgar(call it HH),
was where lorkhan(in the nordic language Shor) created the Nedic world
and it's people. the Nedic race, specifically nords, originally came
from here, and apparently the Greybeards, an ancient and honored people
among the nords live in HH. So theoretically, if there was any tower or
building upon the mountain, it would be strictly nordic architecture.
and the nords are kind of based off Scandinavian people, who in ancient
times where vikings, and the nord architecture in Bloodmoon resembled
that of vikings, with log cabins and all. so basically it would be kind
of a 'viking', or for the lore of the game, 'nordic' tower. (drawing
out concept on this right now, pics up soon!) |
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18.12.2008 23:09 |
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I think the idea is that the mountain IS a Tower (but it's more of a
metaphorical idea than a literal interpretation). It was made at the
same time as White-Gold, Crystal Tower and the rest.... |
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18.12.2008 23:18 |
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If anyone wants me to do some concept art or something let me know,
just give me a description of what you want and I can sorta draw it out
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