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Siesta Guru
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I thin k I found what you might be referring to

Its on the obse WISHLIST Bash

ChangeRace [race ID] - to allow transformations. Would be nice for anything from magickal disguises to becoming a Lich.

Edit: Yeh finally, scripteffectarea sounds be gone Dancing Banana

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11.11.2006 19:44

The Old Ye Bard
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http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/GetPCIsRace

That function there is mainly used as a condition, but I'm pretty sure you could use it for changing the PCs race. And I wasn't refering to OBSE, I hate the thing Wink

11.11.2006 19:48

Siesta Guru
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Wel lthats just get, unfortunatly it isn't that easy to get a persons race as it is to set it, get just looks at a variable, changing the variable would have no effect at all thats why there aint no setpcrace.

I just happend to have seen the obse wishlist and I thought you might have seen it aswell and couldn't remember correctly where that thought came from,
I'm not a big fan of obse myself either, id prefer it if beth made a patch for the cs

would be a lot easier then how obse is trying to do it.

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11.11.2006 19:53

The Old Ye Bard
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quote:

Originally posted by Siesta Guru
Wel lthats just get, unfortunatly it isn't that easy to get a persons race as it is to set it, get just looks at a variable, changing the variable would have no effect at all thats why there aint no setpcrace.

I just happend to have seen the obse wishlist and I thought you might have seen it aswell and couldn't remember correctly where that thought came from,
I'm not a big fan of obse myself either, id prefer it if beth made a patch for the cs

would be a lot easier then how obse is trying to do it.

Even if beth made a path for the CS, the game engine would not reconise it. They need to update all of the oblvion files, like they did with Tribunal and BM for MW.

11.11.2006 20:07

Psychotic
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The whole reason I suggested turning the player into a creature (like the werecroc or polymorph mod do) is because the race can not be changed.
There is no way to change the sounds for the player, he has to be transformed into a new race or a creature.
Using OBSE for this might solve a lot of problems (like the current one), and also creatures cause a lot less stress to the frame rate than NPCs, that is always a plus.

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11.11.2006 21:59

The Old Ye Bard
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quote:

Originally posted by Psychotic
The whole reason I suggested turning the player into a creature (like the werecroc or polymorph mod do) is because the race can not be changed.
There is no way to change the sounds for the player, he has to be transformed into a new race or a creature.
Using OBSE for this might solve a lot of problems (like the current one), and also creatures cause a lot less stress to the frame rate than NPCs, that is always a plus.

With creatures it causes more problems than it creates.

11.11.2006 22:06

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quote:

Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
With creatures it causes more problems than it creates.

Elaborate please. An alternative would also be nice.

11.11.2006 22:08

The Old Ye Bard
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quote:

Originally posted by Psychotic

quote:

Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
With creatures it causes more problems than it creates.

Elaborate please. An alternative would also be nice.

not in this thread.

Back On Topic: I don't see why it's not possible to just swap the PC with another Npc, not change the race just swaping the actor.

Edit: Wouldn't it be possible to track deaths using this?

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11.11.2006 23:27

Alasdair
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Possibly, depends on how many ActorBaseID's there are for NPC's

12.11.2006 02:55

The Old Ye Bard
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It would also work even better then other routes because you could track more than one death.

12.11.2006 03:05

Siesta Guru
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Swapping the pc with a actor? How? Its not like you can remove the player and just place a npc in the players position, something like that could be done but then the player doesnt have control over the actor, so werewolves wont be able to do anything.

Edit: O and I already made a track kills script so no worrys about it.

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12.11.2006 14:31

Siesta Guru
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Hmm there seems to be a way to change the sounds the player makes, or it should be doable they didn't completly figure it out yet. Linky:
http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index...howtopic=590116

Edit: Hmm I've kindda lost track of what everything in my scripts means

I forgot to document the thingys, its so chaotic it takes me too long to figure out what is what, I think ill rewrite most of the script so I have a clue of whats going on.

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15.11.2006 16:03

thePOSTALdude
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It is not true that sounds cannot be changed. If you would like to know how, you can check out my werewolf mod, or I could go into detail. You just have to edit the combat dialogue.

15.11.2006 23:34

Psychotic
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quote:

Originally posted by thePOSTALdude

quote:

It is not true that sounds cannot be changed. If you would like to know how, you can check out my werewolf mod, or I could go into detail. You just have to edit the combat dialogue.

Ok, cool.

I remember the way it worked in MW, if it's the same in OB then I know how it's done.

15.11.2006 23:50

Siesta Guru
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Great

well let us make some wolve sounds then...

With us I mean you guys Yes

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16.11.2006 08:58

The Old Ye Bard
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Sulan should be able to get some sounds for you to work with, either Email or PM him as he seems to not be that east to get a hold of on the forums.

16.11.2006 09:03

The Old Ye Bard
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Wats the status?

17.11.2006 10:40

Siesta Guru
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I am currently rewriting most of the script, fixing bugs in the progress, this version is way cleaner then the last one was so I can actually see what I am doing, most basic systems are rewritten already, I still got to do a little bugfixing, everything that has anything to do with ai *ouch* and the sounds.

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17.11.2006 10:44

The Old Ye Bard
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Cool, when can I expect a playable (Beta) version for bug testing?

17.11.2006 10:47

Siesta Guru
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I have no clue, I thought I was very close to one a long time ago but then I kept finding more bugs, the ai system is probably by far the hardest to do and I havent started rewriting that yet..

I am currently busy with a bug where if you force transformation before midnight (20.00 pm for example) and then you wait 24 hours you will not transform back untill you reach midnight, but I'm working on it.

Edit: Its a pretty simple one since I've fixed it already

Edit2: Roflol just had the funiest error message ever :lmao:

: Max script line lenght (512 characters) exceeded
This is the line its talking about :
if (Time < AASKxxGUxVariableDeclaration.TransformWolve && Time > AASKxxGUxVariableDeclaration.TransformHuman) || AASKxxGUxVariableDeclaration.Dayssincelasttransform > 1 || (AASKxxGUxVariableDeclaration.Dayssincelasttransform == 1 && AASKxxGUxVariableDeclaration.LastTransformtime < AASKxxGUxVariableDeclaration.TransformHuman) || ((AASKxxGUxVariableDeclaration.Dayssincelasttransform == 1 && AASKxxGUxVariableDeclaration.LastTransformtime > AASKxxGUxVariableDeclaration.TransformWolve && GetcurrentTime > AASKxxGUxVariableDeclaration.TransformWolve )

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17.11.2006 10:50

The Old Ye Bard
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O.K. Just make sure to keep us updated on your progress Wink

17.11.2006 10:58

Siesta Guru
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Do we have someone whos good at ai? or atleast dialogue? I havent worked with them before and I feel the rest of werewolves (besides sound and animations) is kinnda finished.

My rewriting somehow managed to cut my code in half Confused

I wonder what happend to the other half of the code.. Confused

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17.11.2006 11:34

Siesta Guru
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This ai is killing me.. ai is one big bug.. the bug is squashign me instead of the other way around

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17.11.2006 17:56

Psychotic
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OblivionMon LOVES AI!

Maybe you could ask him for help, though he isn't around too often.

17.11.2006 20:07

The Old Ye Bard
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He has been on more of late, writing quests and such. It'd be best to send him a PM to get a hold of him though.

17.11.2006 20:10

Siesta Guru
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I just say forceflee to a actor and he just keeps on standing Frown

same results with actorid.setav confidence 0, it should jsut work

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17.11.2006 20:10

The Old Ye Bard
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quote:

Originally posted by Siesta Guru
I just say forceflee to a actor and he just keeps on standing Frown

same results with actorid.setav confidence 0, it should jsut work

Maybe you've missed out another component that affects if they flee or not.

17.11.2006 20:12

Siesta Guru
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Yeh I've got a new video card

it actually looks nice now and I dont need oldblivion anymore so my computer wont crash anymore when closing OB, itll cut my testing times in half

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18.11.2006 17:15

Psychotic
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Congrats on the video card, may many gaming hours reduce it to a charred piece of circuitry.

18.11.2006 18:10

The Old Ye Bard
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Where are you with this now?

18.11.2006 20:07

Siesta Guru
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Currently I'm drolling about the graphics, havent done anything the last 24 hours, so I'm still stuck at the ai.. they should jsut run when I change thir confidence to 0 Frown

or atleast when I say forceflee, stupid ai

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18.11.2006 20:16

The Old Ye Bard
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Maybe it's the dispostion towards the player, or if you've set them to hostile or not.

18.11.2006 20:26

Siesta Guru
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I've set the dispositions to 0, is that bad? Also I did player.startcombat aiduderef

didn't work Frown

Edit: o I forgot I also tried aidude.forcetakecover player and scripted packages... everyone just kept walking like nothing was going on (i didn't do all of em at once)

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18.11.2006 20:27

The Old Ye Bard
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Hmm, strange.

Go post your problem over at the CS Wiki forums or over at the ESF CS forums, they shoud get you an aswer quite quickly.

18.11.2006 20:41

Siesta Guru
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I havent doen much testing yet so I might be able to figure it out myself Yes

I use forums as a last resource, I use em almost every day already.... :lmao:

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18.11.2006 20:43

The Old Ye Bard
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Okay, after this is done how much more is needed until a beta can be released?

18.11.2006 20:52

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WEll I wont be implementing the full ai yet (no keeping identity secret yet), so I think only sounds and some testing to filter out any major bugs that will make beta testing impossible, ill prolly start scripting/testing again tomorrow so I expect within a week (if sulan finishes the sounds within 1 week)

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18.11.2006 21:20

The Old Ye Bard
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cool, have you gotten in contact with Sulan about the sounds?

18.11.2006 21:29

Siesta Guru
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Yeh, he said something about inspiration from daggerfall, anyways he's still working on his music so you shouldnt count upon aving it finished in one week.

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18.11.2006 21:56

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I don't know, when Sulan wants to he can get things finished pretty fast. Also the sounds don't need to be that long.

19.11.2006 00:17

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