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Lord Skorm
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All right, so I'm posting this to see how many people are actually
interested in restarting the Summerset project. I think that this
project could get well underway if there are a good handful of
dedicated modders. I think it wouldn't be as much fun to have access to
all the provinced except for Summerset, the most unknown province in
all of Tamriel.
I am going to start posting in the top Elder Scrolls forums in the net,
in search of talented modders. So if I see that I get a good response,
then lets get modding, but if I don't, then there's always the future.
So lets get enthutiastic about Summerset.
The Summerset Isles
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Siegfried
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Cool, glad to hear someone is picking this up. I would suggest rather
than attacking the whole island right off the bat, you get an
architecture set and and items done for one of the coastal islands, and
then release that with some quests. Once thats done you can go for the
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I don't mind to every ones in a while do a sketch when I got some inspiration but that's about it. :/
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Lord Skorm
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So far I got some good responses. I like Siegfried's idea of starting with a major city, like Alinor.
And I will most certainly check on that small Alinor project.
Where can I locate Adanorcil?
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2007.04.22 00:59 |
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KuKulzA
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I cannot donate much at all, but concept art and writing is within my
ability, so if I have the nspiration to draw something Summerset-ish,
I'll be sure to donate it over to your maybe-mod-to-be... good luck |
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Krisi-_
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[i]Originally posted by Lord Skorm[/[MOD]i]
So far I got some good responses. I like Siegfried's idea of starting with a major city, like Alinor.
And I will most certainly check on that small Alinor project.
Where can I locate Adanorcil? |
I'd start with Firsthold or Skywatch . If you start with Alinor you're
bound to hit a bummer. And just to make it clear Alinor can be used as
the name of Summerset and is the name of the capitol.
Adanorcil is only doing Artaeum. The Isle of the Psijic Order. He is going under that name on BSF isn't he?
KuKulzA: to my knowledge one or two models made by Vvardenfell might come in handy. I've asked about them earlier I believe.
And I'd certainly do my part... Lore and ideas only I'm afraid.
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KuKulzA
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Originally posted by Krisi-_
KuKulzA: to my knowledge one or two models made by Vvardenfell might come in handy. I've asked about them earlier I believe. |
I don't remember, would you kindly remind me what that
was? Sorry, been awhile since I remember even talking with you on forum
or PM so my memory getting hazy about it 
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ghostruler
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You have my blessing as the leader of the former "didn't get very far but was started" summerset project. 
Any ways If you want some help or I can find what I have left on my computer just let me know.
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Lord Skorm
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There are a lot of people wishing me good luck, makes me feel . Well,
for lore and ideas, I could really use. To tell you the truth, I can't
make up a good main quest storyline.
I do have one idea.
I was thinking since Summerset is the source of all magic, maybe some
kind of corrupted wizard was able to harness his magic to tear a rift
through time and space, I dunno, somehow he is able to destroy the
present by deleting history from people's memory. The Champion of
Cyrodiil can be some kind of prophesized hero, kinda like the
Nerevarine in Morrowind. Of course, the citizens don't know about it
because history has been rewritten, and the only person that knows is
some kind of exiled oracle or sorceress that returns to Summerset after
rumors of the province's amnesia spreads throughout Tamriel. Oh!!!
Maybe the evil wizard could be working with Molag Bal, God of
Enslavement. The wizard could have made a deal with Molag Bal that if
he gets more daedra worshippers, then Molag Bal would reign supreme
over Summerset, and the evil wizard could be like his successor or
something like that, maybe his physical voice like Mehrunes Dagon and
Camoran. Or maybe, Molag Bal does rise from Oblivion, and the only way
to stop him is to travel back to the past, and stop the corrupted
wizard when his not at his peak of power. Kinda like Zelda and Majora's
Mask.
Well, I'm just throwing ideas out there. If you guys like it, then let
me know, post your comments truthfully, and if I get good responses,
then I'll work on main quest and develop it further. Or if someone has
a different idea, then also post it.
Post Script:
Ghostruler, if you have things that may be useful for Summerset, then
please send them to me by e-mail, or you can record it on a CD (if its
a lot of models and stuff) and mail it to me.
Thank you. 
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Krisi-_
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Summerset is not the source of magic.. but the reforming of the Mages
Guild orgins from Summerset as the Guild itself. Firsthold to be exact.
King Orgnum; Great Wizard King of the Maomer.
Pyandonea known races is the Maomer. They have no color what so ever.
Their ships are said to be exactly the same as the chitin ships of
Morrowind. There leader is ofc King Orgnum as far as it is known to
ous. We know nothing of the politics of Pyandonea and little of the
land itself..
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men aboard were not merely pale, they were entirely colorless, as if
their flesh were made of some white limpid jelly, but she had been
forewarned. At the arrival of the King and his translator, she looked
directly into their blank eyes and offered her hand. The King made
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much of Summerset's history, the Maormer have launched attacks against
their sister child of Aldmeris. Every one of these battles have been
led by Orgnum himself who it seems is not only immortal but grows more
youthful by the century. No historian, to the knowledge of the staff of
the Imperial Geographic Society, has counted the number of wars and
number of strategies employed against Summerset, but somehow each has
proved, no matter how ingenious, an ultimate failure.
One attack in particular is worthy of mention as it gives us our only
glimpse into the actual landscape of Pyandonea. In the year 2E 486, a
small Maormeri fleet was sighted off the coast of Alinor, and King
Hidellith ordered his navy to give chase. The navy followed the ships
through uncharted waters, into an ambush in Pyandonea itself. Most of
the Alinoru navy was destroyed, but a single warship returned to
Summerset to describe the land as a "sea jungle". Massive plateaus
spilling over with vegetation form mazes around valleys of ocean.
Waving tendrils of kelp trap all but the Maormer's own ships, and
provide a well-camouflaged home for the sea serpents that are Orgnum's
guards and occasional mounts. Mist storms spill over the land, further
disorienting one's views. That even one ship survived the visit is a
testament to the maritime genius of the Altmer.
The last documented appearance of the Maormer was in 3E 110 in the War
of the Isle. The storm brewed by the Psijic of Artaeum, it was said, so
annihilated Orgnum's fleet that he was never again able to muster
together enough of a force to dare another battle. The mists to the
south reveal nothing to corroborate or refute this belief, but one can
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This nascent revolution in the Summerset Isle has taken many forms.
Most constructive, surely, is the acceptance of new cultures and races
onto its shores, some occupying positions that would have been
forbidden just a century ago. The Queen of Firsthold, for example, is
the Dunmer Morgiah, daughter of Barenziah and sister of the King of
Morrowind, Helseth. Her children, Goranthir and Rinnala, though
half-Altmer, are fully Dunmer in appearance, and stand to inherit the
throne.
A darker side of this movement, however, is exhibited by a shadowy
group who call themselves the Beautiful. Originally a salon for artists
with the reasonable philosophy that Summerset must let go of its past
in order to move forward, the Beautiful became a revolutionary gang
dedicated to the destruction of the greatest monuments of Altmer
civilizations. The Crystal Tower was naturally an early target, and
fortunately attempts against it have failed, but many other great,
ancient sculptures and emblems of the past have been vandalized.
Lately, the Beautiful have turned their attention to living symbols of
the Isle, the royalty of Summerset. The particularly gruesome murder of
the daughter of the King of Shimmerene has horrified and outraged the
public.
from the pocket guide to the empire , third edition .
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Mormacil
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Aldmer are crazy I mean they kill 80% of their offspring for beeing not perfect enough at birth 
I do think this can be a great mod
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Krisi-_
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Indeed.. (homosidal rampage..)
Cultural conflict as on Summerset can as far as I see atleast not
feature a main quest. Though all out war is by no means possible, nor
wanted. I can see it feature lots of quests and some questlines.. but
that is it.
But something is brewing with King Orgnum.. He is either dead or
planning something.. And I don't believe he is died a that boring
death(take by a storm.. bah).. 323 years have he had to rebuild..
Something got to come from his end..
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KuKulzA
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I hear ya.... Pyandonean ships coming up on the horizon blown in by the
southern winds and sea-serpent riders on the flanks, driving the
Altmeri fishing crafts towards shore... on the land, war-magicians and
goblins amass near the shore, and a wizard teleports to the admiral to
sail to the invasion point....
maybe I'm just imagining things... personally only things I really
interested in on Summerset are Pyandoneans and goblins, but thats
enough for me to look forward to such a mod... though I guess it'll be
mostly about those damn Altmer... 
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It's best to steer clear of her homosidal rampages, but luckily they
don't happen very often. You could say their occurances are more thinly
spread than semen in a lesbian relationship 
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KuKulzA
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Originally posted by Lady Nerevar
somewhere sload and dexter are laughing their behinds off
I believe that the sloads also counted alinor as part of their kingdom
once, but they dont seem to have much interest in Tamriel anymore. |
yea I agree to a point, but it all depends, we don't really know...
we'll only know for sure when the DEVs decide to make some plans fo
rthe Sload in lore 
which is the beauty is disgustingness of game-lore...
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IAMTHEEMPEROR
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You were never nice when I tried starting Summerset again.....it was
always "Good luck, but we have too many projects as it is" or "You're
not gonna gain enough popular support to do it"
You make me cry, on the inside.....
at least be this nice for when I propose to start Almalexia.
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Lord Skorm
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Don't worry IATE, I support your Almalexia project.
Well the Pyandoneans sound exciting, and so does that Wizard King,
sorta like the Sorcerer King in Knights of the Nine. In less than a day
I get all these awesome ideas, and I think I see a main quest in
development 
. I'm so excited
!!!!
Well, I think it is essential to add the Psijics to this project. This
organization is a fundamental part of Summerset. They remind me of the
Blades in Cyrodiil.
Now I read about this revolutionary organization that resides in
Summerset, known as the Beautiful, who are dedicated in destroying the
greatest monuments in Summerset. What if this organization was sort of
"inside man" in the Pyandoneans conquest of Summerset.
I'm still liking the idea of creating one city, and see how people
respond to it. What about constructing the northeast island where
Firsthold and Skywatch are located, you know, just to give the player a
wider viewing point of Summerset.
If you guys found special lore, or have concept art, model screenshots,
or any ideas that you would like for me to read or view personally,
then please e-mail it to me at Skorm360@cs.com.
Thank you.
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KuKulzA
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Originally posted by IAMTHEEMPEROR
You were never nice when I tried starting Summerset again.....it was
always "Good luck, but we have too many projects as it is" or "You're
not gonna gain enough popular support to do it"
You make me cry, on the inside.....
at least be this nice for when I propose to start Almalexia. |
haha, I never said that this was going to succeed, I just said it sounds cool
I said it sounded cool in your thread too, and I DON'T think this one will succeed either
don't be put down, considering you've already moved on right?
as of now, if Vvardenfell was done I'd support your Almalexia City
project fully, but seeing as how Vvardenfell is years from completion
as is Black Marsh, I personally can't help you much yet, so what
niceness are you begging for? I mean, maybe if you helped out in
Vvardenfell, that mod can be completed sooner, who knows... but that
though tnever occured to you right? probably not.
life is funny, if you wanna laugh at it
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Originally posted by IAMTHEEMPEROR
You were never nice when I tried starting Summerset again.....it was
always "Good luck, but we have too many projects as it is" or "You're
not gonna gain enough popular support to do it"
You make me cry, on the inside.....
at least be this nice for when I propose to start Almalexia. |
I think your thread made people think of the old Summerset Isle project
and how it fared, while Lord Skorm's made people think of how it could
turn out if it fared well this time.
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Lord Skorm
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Hooray
I just got my new Alienware laptop today, now I can work on Summerset three times as fast.
All right, so I've been researching on the Pyandoneans, and I like
them. They seem to be the perfect enemy for the High Elfs. I love that
they are pale. Though why are they pale? Lack of magic? Hunger for
revenge? Their own malice? Or is it some kind of way that they adapted
to Pyandonea, maybe the mist?
I also like that they ride giant sea serpents into battle, though I
think that it would be impossible to make a serpent rideable, due to
the way that they move.
Well, IATE, don't worry, I would have supported you if you started
Summerset. Also, KuKulzA, you don't have to worry either. I will not
let this project fail, not as long as I'm leading it. I have never
failed anything in my life, and I don't intend in starting anytime
soon. Just like you said in one of your posts, I will throw it behind
my back and work on it by myself if I have to.
Oh... and thanks for the lore Krisi_!!
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A somewhat unexpected find.. :
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great Orrery at Firsthold, whose spheres are made up of genuine celestial mineral gathered by travelers during the Merethic Era.
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As for why Pyandoneans are pale: Its of no importance..
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Lord Skorm
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So there is an Orrery in Firsthold? That's cool!!
I didn't like the Mage's Guild Orrery, too small. Maybe we can create a
huge spherical building in the center of Firsthold, hmmm....... maybe
not in the center, but somewhere that it can easily be noticed.
The building could be spherical in the center with a type of oval
rising ceiling. Then there could be a building on the northeast,
southeast, etc. etc. Maybe a type of twisting building with a point at
its top. I'll keep thinking about it.
I've found a mod in Planet Elder Scrolls in which it adds the
Pyandoneans as a playable race. They are pale (grey) and with lite
yellow eyes. I like this mod because they look evil, you can note their
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Krisi-_
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they are only pale as in no color at all and its the same for their eyes.
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Originally posted by Lord Skorm
I have never failed anything in my life, and I don't intend in starting anytime soon. |
you lucky unlucky bastard!
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I have always wanted this, I am guessing this will be the setting for
the next elder scrolls, just my thoughts though. I could help out with
this cause pretty landscapes are rather fun to populate. It could use
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Originally posted by Lord Skorm
Vality7 has a Summerset height map, but she still hasn't contacted me
since my last PM. Vality7 showed me some great maps, but I'm not
posting them until I have Vality7's permission, it's not my work after
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I did say it could be used, though its not complete. If this project
picks up, or is going to be definately made/finished, then i'll think
about finishing it. Kukulza told me that Summerset was a lot flatter
than I had made it, so i'm not sure if my design will work.
I done the eastern island, it looks like this. Its really rocky, its based on the islands around where I live, kinda like this one: Kapiti Island
And I done about a third of the main island, heres a
low res pic of that. Its flattened down a lot, and that pic is very low
res so you cant see the detail of all the peaks. You can see the
Sunhold Valley in the center, and theres lots of peaks on the south
eastern part of the island. I figured that was a mountain range, but
i'm not sure if its meant to be.
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Krisi-_
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I always figured it to be more rolling hills that peaks.. and I'd say
that Firsthold is somewhat peaky.. I believe is flatter.. (Firstholds
area on the map is just a mountain with rather bad access to the sea..
which isn't the case for Firsthold.. buts its a little hard to see, can
you get a higher rez please? )
As for Skywatchs area.. its more or less like I've thought it would
be.. thought it would be hard to have a city of any size in that
mountain range.. thought it is to be high I'd say its still somewhat
flat area.. (either that or the city is built out of the mountain)
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Lord Skorm
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I agree with OblivionMon, I also thought that the next Elder Scrolls
was going to be set in Summerset, but there was also a possiblity for
Black Marsh. I say this because there is barely anything known about
these provinces, or I haven't been searching all that well.
I have found quite a lot of info on Summerset though, but my school just blocked til.gamingsource website. 
Along with Silgrad.
They get on my last nerves. Oh well......
About Firsthold, I thought that it could be set on a rolling hills
environment in the south of Kapiti Island, while in the north could
have a more mountain look for Skywatch, but I'm not imagining peaks and
snow and etc., just a more higher region than Firsthold. I was
imagining it built on a plateau with a few higher mountains surrounding
it.
Krisi_ mentioned that the city could be built out of the mountain. This
could be a possibility, but it's not really the style of the High Elfs,
its more or less Orc to me.
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Krisi-_
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use http://www.schoolunblocker.com/ or some similar service.. though if they check what people have been on, they'll probably block that aswell...
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Hah, my school's computer blocked that site too, not TIL but the
unblocker. All I want to do is get access to Photobucket, which for
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Folow Krisi advice
I wanted to post that URL too. Anyway, Orcs are Adlmer
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Vality7
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I spent a few minutes to put together a rough map of the isles of what
I think the general layout of mountains and hills should be. Its based
off the arena map's layout mainly.
It looks rather mountainous, but I didn't intend it to be, it just
sorta came out that way. When you have such an unusual shape island at
such a small scale (OB's scale), its kinda hard to make something that
looks like natural terrain on a real island. Heres the map: SI Topo Map.
It was just a quick concept, so its not meant to be taken too
seriously. I'm hoping to get some feedback, and maybe some
sketches/maps of your own of what you guys think it should look like.
At first I thought the northern half should be less hilly, but the
Arena map makes it seem as though there are mountains/hills there,
especially the name Cloudrest suggests its on a mountain. The area
around Sunhold in the south I think should be a valley (Sunhold
valley), the area in the southwest I would guess is maybe an
uninhabited forest. The area in the east around Shimmerine could be a
big flat grass or swamp area. Around Crystal Tower in the north could
be rocky cliff faces along that northern coast. The area in between
Sunhold an Alinor could be a big hilly forested area. Are there even
forests on SI?
The southeastern area I think should be a mountain range, consisting of
about 2-3 rows of peaks, not quite as tall as Cyrodiil's peaks along
the Skyrim border though. On the eastern Isle I think Skywatch should
sit on the tallest point of the island, and Firsthold on the high point
in the north, or maybe somewhere near that peak, possibly closer to the
north shore, but it makes sense for them to be as high up as possible
if they're fortresses. And theres a river valley running through the
east isle. Do we have a name for the eastern isle btw?
So what are your thoughts on the layout and the specific areas I
mentioned. It would be good if you guys could draw some basic maps to
show how you think it should look. If you want a base map to use for
making a quick sketch of a map/heightmap use this, or this for a coloured one.
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Ooops..... I'm sorry if I'm confused anyone with my last post of the
region heights, I was in school when I posted it so I didn't have any
of my Summerset maps or pictures, I meant the south of Kalipi Island
could be mountainy and the north hilly.
Well, I don't think there are any swamps in Summerset, especially
around Shimmering. There could be a very fertile lake around or near
Shimmering, hence the name Shimmering, but I am not sure. As for
Cl0udrest, it supposedly lays on a sort of mountain in the north, I'll
post the lore when I get the chance. As for forests, also not sure. I
know there are hills and grasslands in the east and southeast of
Summerset, and I also read of the area around Alinor to be rather
"lush", but with what I'm not sure. I was thinking of adding a forest
around Alinor at first, and so far it seems like the most supported
region idea.
In the north, there are rocky cliffs and a few peaks. Crystal Tower
lies in the center of the cliffs, and on a plateau, also this explains
why Cloudrest is located on the top of a tall mountain/cliff.
In the one of the ES games (forgot which one) but the player travels to
Summerset in search of some relic in the Crystal Tower. This part was
the most interesting, so I definitely remember.
The inhabitants told the player that Crystal Tower moves from one
location to the next, so I was thinking that we could create a few
bases for the Crystal Tower to move from one to another, though I think
this would require a lot of scripting so it could look like it is part
of the natural environment of Summerset. But we'll worry about this
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Firsthold must be flat(not totally, only city) as there are mentions of a river passing trough.. (and a grand one it is..)
Cloudrest is rocky(located on the highest mountain of Summerset) and much colder that Firsthold. (colder, less fertile etc..)
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Originally posted by Lord Skorm
Ooops..... I'm sorry if I'm confused anyone with my last post of the
region heights, I was in school when I posted it so I didn't have any
of my Summerset maps or pictures, I meant the south of Kalipi Island
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Um, you're still confusing me. 
Kapiti Island is an island close to where I live. I showed it as an
example of the type of islands around here that I based my heightmap
on. I take it you're reffering to the currently unnamed "eastern isle".
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Well, I don't think there are any swamps in Summerset, especially
around Shimmering. There could be a very fertile lake around or near
Shimmering, hence the name Shimmering, but I am not sure. |
Its Shimmerene, not Shimmering.
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In the one of the ES games (forgot which one) but the player travels to
Summerset in search of some relic in the Crystal Tower. This part was
the most interesting, so I definitely remember.
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That would be Arena, which is the only game where you've been able to go to Summerset.
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But we'll worry about this later on, as for now we need a heightmap created. |
We can't create a heightmap until we've sorted all this stuff out and
agreed on a map. I've posted my layout, i'd like to see some ideas/maps
from other people. I can't say i'll actually be doing the heightmap, I
said I may consider it. I have a bad habit of taking on extra work, and
Summerset is one too many projects for me. I can at least get it ready
for someone else to do though.
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Firsthold must be flat(not totally, only city) as there are mentions of a river passing trough.. (and a grand one it is..) |
Is this old or new lore? If its old lore, then it can't really work
here. Oblivion's Cyrodiil changed the scale of the world we can work
with for OB mods. Of course the scale of OB's Cyrodiil hasn't changed
the lore for good, but its set a standard size to work with.
I take it this will be made to scale with Cyrodiil? At this scale,
theres not any room for a river, and even if I take away those hills,
where is the river going to come from? On a true life scale, this would
be possible to add in, but with this mod, I don't think it is. And it
would be foolish to try and make this mod any larger scale than
Cyrodiil's scale.
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Sorry for all the confusion, but what I meant was, the north of the
"eastern isle" (not Kalipi Island::: which I thought was the name of
the eastern isle, I'm so stupid... sorry) will be hilly, while the
south will have mountains, though they are not the highest mountains in
Summerset.
As for the size of Summerset, as everyone can see, Summerset is a
rather small province in comparison to the other provinces. I have been
measuring all the maps that I have with the new Oblivion map. In
estimate ( and according to the Cyrodiil map ), Summerset's width is
about from Chorrol to Cheydinhal ( that is measured from the
southwestern point of Summerset to the farthest eastern point of the
eastern isle, about 245 - 260 miles in width. In length it would be
from the northernmost tip of the Jerrall Mountains to the southernmost
tip of the West Wield, or from the south border of Skyrim to the
northern border of Elsweyr, probably about 260 - 275 miles in length,
just to give a visual. So I'm guessing that Summerset would require the
4 default quads in the CS, and all the quads surrounding the default
quads, but they won't be used completely because they will just hold
most of the coast around Summerset. So about 16 quads (keep in thought
that they are not completely full of land).
Firsthold was going to be flat, only that outside the city walls the
land was going to be hilly (kinda like how the Grazelands looked in
Morrowind, except with greener grass and more beautiful trees).
Also, thanks about telling me about the river, I didn't know about
that. This now gives me an idea about how to place the Orrery in
Firsthold (maybe over the river:::: levitating maybe..... nah, too
much). We can place the river kinda how it is in Balmora, but
supposedly the city is flat, so the city would look sort of bland with
just a straght surface. Let's see what we can do later on.
So far this is my goals for Summerset. First get a height map of the
whole Isle. Second, start modeling for the cities of Firsthold and
Skywatch. And finally, release "the eastern island" as the first part
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Firsthold must be flat(not totally, only city) as there are mentions of a river passing trough.. (and a grand one it is..) |
Is this old or new lore? If its old lore, then it can't really work
here. Oblivion's Cyrodiil changed the scale of the world we can work
with for OB mods. Of course the scale of OB's Cyrodiil hasn't changed
the lore for good, but its set a standard size to work with.
I take it this will be made to scale with Cyrodiil? At this scale,
theres not any room for a river, and even if I take away those hills,
where is the river going to come from? On a true life scale, this would
be possible to add in, but with this mod, I don't think it is. And it
would be foolish to try and make this mod any larger scale than
Cyrodiil's scale. |
It not outdated. Its in OB & MW if I don't remember to wrong.. And
Ob scale isn't limiting us as far I know.. and large project doesn't
have much survival rate.. and is thus foolish to begin with.. and what
would be the size of Firstholds area in OB scale? (compare it to
somewhere.. in ob)
And to getting all of Summerset isn't something the mod should focus on first, making it believable and entertaining is.
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This should give a bit of a comparison:
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If you guys read my edited post earlier, I mentioned that Summerset is
very small, and Vality7's comparison proves it. I don't have my
Summerset jump drive with me, and I'm at my family's jewelry store so I
can't go home now to retrieve it. So can you Vality7 please cut out the
piece of that map from Bravil to the Topal sea and compare it to the
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Although not a direct scale with cyrodiil, the previous project determined that a four quad heightmap would be perfect.
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Actually, I was thinking 4 quads at first, especially since I've had
trouble before with the distant land LOD business. But.... I don't
know, I feel like that would be limiting Summerset's potential, 4 quads
(personal opinion) is too small.
Although with 4 quads we would be able to finish Summerset even faster.
I'll see what people think, but now I'm actually leaning to the 4 quads.
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Make it a bit bigger, like 6 quads. At least that's my opinion. More is
even better but well lots of more work and might make this mod fail
earlier.
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Four is clean, easy to make, easy to populate, easier to add a more
personal touch to. The mod is getting started late in the game with a
province that has a stigma attatched to it.
Do what you will, but I would think four.
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It is starting late, I've had a couple of tough weeks so far (Final
Exam Week), God how I hate this week. But it'll be over Friday.
Though I am concern over the mod. There is something happening next
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I'm just gonna say everything I know about Summerset
Summerset is a very Temperate/Subtropical region. It has no swamps, but
there is a moor there, which is similar to swampland but is sort of a
combination between grasslands and swamps. It does indeed have some
mountains though, as described "Cloudrest, atop Eton Nir, the highest
mountain in Summerset". While some islands have large mountains such as
Hawaii, this is due to volcanic activity below the island which pushes
the mountains up. Summerset is a static island, no volcanic activity
nor much tectonic motion so much as I can tell, so it'sgeographic
features would be similar to those found in Ireland and Britain. The
climate of the Isles is between Temparate and Tropical. It's not quite
Florida, nor is it New England, but right in the middle.
The lore behind Summerset was that the only place outsiders could be in
was Alinor, the capital city. All other places in Summerset were off
limits to Outlanders. I have no idea if the lore changed or this law
isstill in place. A similar rule existed not all throughout Morrowind
and Vvardenfell, but Vivec City had a rule that Outlanders could only
go so far as the Foreign Quarter. For some reason or another that rule
was lifted and Outlanders were free to wander the city. I have a few
ideas for a way around this in Summerset (entry quest ideas, listed
from most complex to most simple)
1. You start off some faction or another in Cyrodiil, one that involves
travel of some sort and is also related to the Cyrodiilic government.
You do a few quests there, rise in the ranks, and then they ship you
off to their Summerset Office. You arrive in the city of Alinor, but
the guards won't let you go through the gates. You do the quests for
your faction or whatever in the Summerset branch until you make your
way to the top. Then you are granted diplomatic rights to go beyond the
city, you get someone else to run the company, and you're free to go
off and do whatever.
2. You go to the city of Alinor, and an Oblivion Gate opened in the
town center. You charge in, kill the Daedra, come out, and you are made
a hero and are granted freedom to the rest of the islands. After some
time has passed, they will make you a crystal statue in the center of
the city where the gate was.
3. You save the life of some noble, and they grant you freedom to explore the rest of Summerset.
4. They got rid of the law
I'd prefer the first or second one, because the other two are just pretty lame.
The High Elf population, although the dominant population, is not quite
as big as some would think. Like the Spartans in Greece, the High Elves
will only accept perfect children, there can be no defects or they are
killed, they must be absolutely perfect. Nine out of Ten babies are
killed in that belief, so the island, although small, can most
certainly accommodate the population. All high elves are also pure high
elves, breeding outside is strictly forbidden and is punishable by
death.
The High Elves consider themselves superior to all other races on Nirn,
it's even in the name of their very race, "High" meaning "above all the
others".
Ancient High Elven Ruins use a coral architecture, most likely
influenced by the nearby sloads on Thras, if not actually built by
them. These can be found on the coast, but they were used in old
settlements by carrying coral from the sea over inland.
The Crystal Tower is huge, ranking right up there with the Imperial
City Palace. It is the very symbol of high elven society and the
glimmering ornate tower can be seen from any part of the province. A
grand library, a center of sorcery, a great temple, the ancient burial
grounds of the Aldmer, even a zoo, are all inside the tower.
War was a common thing in Summerset. They faced wars between their
kingdoms, and invasions fom Thras and Pyandonea. Thras has had a couple
of terrible invasions, but the most vicious occured against the Maormer
of Pyandonea. At some point, a magical mist barrier was created between
Summerset and Pyandonea, closing each other off and stopping all fture
wars. The High Elves are terrible at land-based combat, but they are
unmatched in the seas and have never lost a battle there. They also
faced conquest from the empire, and ultimately the High Elves lost and
Summerset and their territory of Valenwood were taken into the empire.
That's all I have to say about that
EDIT: Just had a look on TIL, and yes, they removed the rule about
keeping outlanders in Alinor. The Queen of Firsthold Morgiah is
actually a Dunmer, which shows other races are even allowed high
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I don't have much time to write this post because my parents are
pressuring me off the Internet already, what the hell am I suppose to
do in a jewelry store, GOD!!!!!
Anyway, I appreciate your post Sever the Prophecy.
You seem to know quite a lot about Summerset lore, and I'm guessing you
got it from TIL because it does sound familiar. I'm going to copy it to
a word document and review it carefully. Thanks.
All that I can say is that we are creating the eastern isle of
Summerset first, then Alinor because of all the rules of Summerset;
kinda gives a strain to the project.
There is Daedra worship in Summerset, but I don't think there is enough to have Oblivion Gates opening in Summerset.
As I mentioned earlier, the project might be delayed over the summer due to our yearly family trip, which I totally forgot.
This year we are going to Ecuador, Peru, and Puerto Rico ( for a cruise
). Though I am going to take my laptop, but I doubt I'll get much done
in June, or if I'll even be able to visit Silgrad.
Though, I would love it if Sever the Prophecy joins the Summerset project.
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The laws governing where outsiders can be have been lifted if I am not mistaken.
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Skorm I wish I was you
I only ones been to Thailand and ones to Scandinavia, the rest was just
europe.... Anyway I think the Aldmer don't suck at land, I mean they
got mages.
And one way they're still so "high" is that they kill most of their newborn because they're not "perfect" enough.
The reason they "invaded" Valenwood was because VW asked them. At that
time VW was invaded by Khajiit and the Bosmer were losing so they asked
their cousins for aid. SsI agreed if they could rule for 400-500 years
(I forgot) Anyway they defeated the Khajiit and became rulers of VW. At
some point the pact ended and most Aldmer left. There still some left
in VW which we'll fueture 
I already got some art for the towers, you might want to look at.
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Yeah, sorry if some of my knowledge is incorrect in some points. I
wrote it all and then checked in TIL and I went "whoops, that wasn't
100% correct" And yes it is said they suck at land-based combat, here
is what was said in the PGE
"On the occasions when the Elves probe the Empire's defenses, the
Legions have sent them back in tatters. Indeed, the Colovians have
taken to calling their enemy the "Old Mary" Dominion, for the womanly
offensives of its Elven soldiers. The situation at sea, however, is
another story, and the Dominion terrorizes the southern waters from the
Cape of the Blue Divide to the Topal Bay."
So yes, they suck on land.
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I thought I'd just say..
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was a common thing in Summerset. They faced wars between their
kingdoms, and invasions fom Thras and Pyandonea. Thras has had a couple
of terrible invasions, but the most vicious occured against the Maormer
of Pyandonea. At some point, a magical mist barrier was created between
Summerset and Pyandonea, closing each other off and stopping all fture
wars. The High Elves are terrible at land-based combat, but they are
unmatched in the seas and have never lost a battle there. They also
faced conquest from the empire, and ultimately the High Elves lost and
Summerset and their territory of Valenwood were taken into the empire.
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Haven't heard that one yet.. I who thought Pyandonea was covered in
mist.. and High Elves sure have lost a sea battle.. but they have the
best Tamrilic navy. Sure, High Elf footmen isn't much good at land..
but they must have forgotten their pets(goblins) or their mages(who is
almost unmatched)..
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The High Elf population, although the dominant population, is not quite
as big as some would think. Like the Spartans in Greece, the High Elves
will only accept perfect children, there can be no defects or they are
killed, they must be absolutely perfect. Nine out of Ten babies are
killed in that belief, so the island, although small, can most
certainly accommodate the population. All high elves are also pure high
elves, breeding outside is strictly forbidden and is punishable by
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Elves have small birthrate.. Source PGEv1? And most Elves we have seen
in OB should never have seen the light then.. (the most perfect of high
elves might have/are done/doing this but few other.)
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All that is required is one who is Mythic Dawn and gets a Sigil by his
master.. but that would require the player not to have completed the
MQ.
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So can you Vality7 please cut out the piece of that map from Bravil to the Topal sea and compare it to the "eastern island". |
I would reccomend keeping the same scale as OB, 4 quads sounds
reasonable. You don't want to make it any bigger, or this project will
most likely never be finished. Look at Black Marsh and Valenwood, they
obviously had more interest than Summerset, but look where they are
now, almost dead. Trying to take on something larger is just not going
to work.
Quality over quantity is what you want, a small, but detailed mod.
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Skorm I wish I was you
I only ones been to Thailand and ones to Scandinavia, the rest was just europe..... |
Please... I don't even want to be me in this trip. Ecuador and Peru are
developing countries, that means that they are a bunch of broke down
countries with nothing to offer. But I didn't get to decide this trip,
I'm planning next years' though. I'm thinking Paris and Tokyo (since
I'm taking French and Japanese in my school, I want to go and practice
my speaking skills in those countries.
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Can you please post it here? Thank You!!!
And thank you Vality7 for posting the image. That is what I had exactly in mind with the size of the "eastern island".
So I am thinking that Firsthold and Skywatch are going to be a little
bigger than Leyawiin ( just so we don't have the cities covering the
entire island).
As for Firsthold, I am going with the plains for the base of Firsthold.
As the player travels south, rolling hills will start escalating into
mountains ( though they won't be huge mountains with snow peaks and
everything:::: I was thinking like Kvatch County <Play Oblivion and
travel north of Kvatch to notice the escalating hills turn to small
mountains> in Cyrodiil, though maybe a little taller) Also, due to
the position of Skywatch, I would like to place the mountains only in
the center of the "eastern island". I wouldn't like the mountains to
continue off into the southern coast, I want them to slope down back
into hills and then the sea meeting with the hills.
As for the position of Skywatch; I'm not sure how to place it. I was
thinking of placing a tall mountain in the center of all the other
mountains, and having Skywatch kinda built around it and escalating up
the mountain; but I don't know if there are any special "points of
interest" in Skywatch. And if there was, we could place it on top of
the mountain::::: though only an idea.
As for the Crystal Tower, I was kinda imagining the White Gold Tower
just like Sever the Prophecy mentioned (By the way :::: Welcome To The
Summerset Isle Project :bananarock
Though I was imagining it made out of maybe blue and white glass with
white stone as its frame. But lets not discuss the Crystal Tower now
because we need to finish our height map first.
Also..... 4 quads it is. I agree 100% with Vality7, Quality Over Quantity.
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By the way Vality7, I downloaded the Moonshadow island from the Thras website, it is awesome. Can't wait till it's done!!
I've been working on a website for Summerset since last week, but I
don't know how to create/get forums. So if anyone could help, I would
highly appreciate it. Thank you.
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DarkAsmodeous
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Valenwood was one of the most rappidly advancing projects until FLESH
left, BM had quite a bit of interest, but a disinterested leader.
Don't try and explain away mod failure with size, its, in my honest oppinion, entirely in the leader
Edit: I do still agree with your decision, I just needed to come to the
defense of the Valenwood mod (which I used to work very closely with),
and by association the rest of us, because frankly (not an insult)
unless you were here, you can't possibly understand the decline in a
mod and what lead up to it.
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Lord Skorm
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Location: Wastes of Exilius
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Originally posted by DarkAsmodeous
Valenwood was one of the most rappidly advancing projects until FLESH
left, BM had quite a bit of interest, but a disinterested leader.
Don't try and explain away mod failure with size, its, in my honest oppinion, entirely in the leader
Edit: I do still agree with your decision, I just needed to come to the
defense of the Valenwood mod (which I used to work very closely with),
and by association the rest of us, because frankly (not an insult)
unless you were here, you can't possibly understand the decline in a
mod and what lead up to it. |
I agree with you, DA. I good leader is one that can lead something to
be great and powerful. I believe that the best example of good leaders
are the countries of our world. The strongest countries today have
strong leaders with powerful governments (their trusted men and women).
I didn't come to BC to prove that I'm better than any other leader, and
by my opinion, I believe I won't ever escalate to be as great as any of
you guys. But I'm just here to continue a project that was left in the
cold, and I want to help it grow for it to be considered something.
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Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man
Registration Date: 2006.08.15
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The problem is that FLESH has RL isssues so he asked if someone could
take over, I said I would like but lack the time. So the idea was to
create a co-leadership between me and another member, sadly nobody
wanted the job, so FLESH agreed to stick round. Eventually nowadays
he's kinda gone and I can still not run it on my own. I do have some
idea's to get VW more attention and well those take time to set up and
hopfully let this mod make his own a bit.
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DarkAsmodeous
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Did FLESH finish the heightmap up before he left? Did he also imply he would ever be back? (Perhaps this summer...)
I miss the guy terribly, was a nice addition to the community.
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Condition grounded, but determined to try
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Vality7
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Registration Date: 2006.08.13
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| Originally posted by Lord SkormI've
been working on a website for Summerset since last week, but I don't
know how to create/get forums. So if anyone could help, I would highly
appreciate it. Thank you. |
I can set up a forum easy. Infact now that Thras has become a part of
BC, the old forums are no longer needed, so I can easily convert them
into a Summerset Isles forum.
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Originally posted by DarkAsmodeous
Don't try and explain away mod failure with size, its, in my honest oppinion, entirely in the leader
Edit: I do still agree with your decision, I just needed to come to the
defense of the Valenwood mod (which I used to work very closely with),
and by association the rest of us, because frankly (not an insult)
unless you were here, you can't possibly understand the decline in a
mod and what lead up to it. |
I didn't mean to insult anyone, I was simply pointing out that if VW
and BM couldn't be done with the amount of interest and leadership they
had, someone with less experience trying to take on anything larger
would almost surely not succeed.
I know what its like to have a large mod die, believe me, and yes I do
agree it all comes down to leadership, and the reason it died wasn't
all as clear cut as people would think. Mainly it was due to lack of my
own personal interest really, it just wasn't fun anymore, that and I
had a falling out with someone who was basically helping run the mod,
and was someone who I really looked up to. It really killed the
motivation to go on when that happened.
I believe Lord Skorm will have to prove himself before anyone takes
this seriously. Again, I can't say i'll be making the heightmap, i'm
just not sure I can take on doing another project anytime soon. I can
set up you a forum easy enough, i'll clear out the other ones tommorow.
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Herma-Mora the Woodland Man
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I think the heightmap is finished, not 100%. And I got no clue when he gets back 
I PM'ed him before and had no responce. He said he was low on time and
then suddenly he stopped comming at all... I miss him as well, he was a
great leader.
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DarkAsmodeous
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You have no BC forum. A forum is a nice thing to have. Vality is offering you an off board forum.
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DarkAsmodeous
King of the Kittens
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If you're looking to make the heightmap, FLESH and I created one a
while back on the FAQ board, and I recently wrote one on an alternative
method.
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Condition grounded, but determined to try
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Vality7
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Here, hows this: http://z4.invisionfree.com/Summerset_Isles/index.php
Should it be Summerset Isles, or Summerset Isle? If I need to change
it, i'll change the banner and the URL so let me know. The banner is
nothing special, but its a start.
Let me know how you want the structure of the forums set up, like for
now I just put: World Design, City Design, Quest Design, Ideas Forum.
If you want to change any of that tell me.
btw, at this point I don't think theres any need for a website whatsoever, your time is better spent actually making the mod.
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Restarting Summerset
). Yes, Adanorcil is his BSF name, you can also reach him on the Storyboard (TIL's forum). 
