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KuKulzA
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Registration Date: 2005.09.07
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In response to the Akavir mod's planned usage of the Nerevarine and Dagoth Ur...
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originally Posted by KuKulzA
I wish you actually listened to what I said. Dagoth Ur's SOUL is INFUSED with the Heart.
Though the idea is good... I really don't approve of the use of Dagoth
ur anymore. After thinking about it, I feel that there are several
reason why Dagoth Ur should not be in Akavir...
1. Dagoth Ur is the main bad-guy of Vvardenfell, he is part of
Vvardenfell's theme, not Akavir, please be original right? I mean
recycling characters is one thing, but recycling another group's
character is much worse....
2. If the Nerevarine soul trapped Dagoth Ur, he/she had failed in his/her mission, especially if the soul can come out
3. Using main characters of Morrowind is likely to deprive Vvardenfell
of its unique characters and themes, and additionally the nature of
these characters is controversial. Dagoth ur is most likely dead / not
on Nirn / metaphysically KO-ed, and the nerevarine not likely to
soul-trap him.
4. We can only go by what the MainQuest REQUIRED, not what individuals
did, cause if we went by that, then millions of variables and
possibilities exist, and we cannot compensate for all.
5. I understand Akavir mod has a lot of freedom for lore. But why not
use that freedom to be original instead of using theme and characters
of Vvardenfell....
the idea is a good one and intriguing, but I have to disagree with it
as for Nerevarine, I never took the going to Akavir literally, but
apparently you guys did. I am fine with that. But the Nerevarine is
obviously yet another character that is Vvardenfell. I hope you guys
don't try to infringe on our unspoken rights by using our most powerful
and influential characters and taking them to Akavir, it really isn't
fair. Because of this, and because of my generosity, I have sought for
ways where we can compensate for YOUR mod. Vvardenfell doesn't have to
compensate for Akavir, we're being nice. I hope you understand that.
Your claim to the Nerevarine is a rumor, true or false. Our claim is a
whole game and prophecy and history.
having said all of that I hope you are not offended, but I hope you
realize my position. I am compromising the freedom of my own mod so you
guys can have fun with nerevarine. Please do me a favor and don't use
Dagoth ur and more guys from Morrowind. I wanted to see a new land,
Akavir, unique and with some Asian influence, but you make it seem like
half of Morrowind's theme is in there, and I don't appreciate it...
again, do not be offended, I must state the way I feel about it
Sincerely,
KuKulzA |
I have grow steadily more unhappy with Akavir mod's usage of the
nerevarine and Dagoth Ur. I feel they belong to Vvardenfell even if
dead. I have constantly been trying to accommodate for them. However
They just go farther and farther. First it was just Nerevarine and soul
trapped Dagoth ur. Ok, cool idea, but not right, and I never actually
approved and they claimed it was just brainstorming.. Now it appears it
is a semi-final idea of theirs.
What should we do? I think if the leaders of the Akavir mod will not
respect my position, we shall no longer accommodate for them. And we
will feature the nerevarine in our way and simply make a reason for why
the rumor was false (and it IS a rumor)...
I will tell you guys when he responds.
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2006.09.30 16:02 |
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TheImperialDragon
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Registration Date: 2006.06.21
Posts: 6,322
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Either way, every project leader (or so I think, but I can be pretty
sure you voted for) voted to make them an affiliate, so you're going to
have to stick with that.
I personally don't see it as much of a bad thing if the Nerevarine has
left Vvardenfell for good, less problems for us to sort out. 
Anyhoo, we can probably make a great mod with Vivec instead, and to be
honest, I've never really been in support of the Great House War, it
just... changes way too much so that it really is no longer
Vvardenfell, BUT I like several other ideas. I would like to see
Vvardenfell returned to Oblivion, not completely altered and
transformed. But I suppose that's up to us as a collective.
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2006.09.30 16:46 |
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KuKulzA
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Registration Date: 2005.09.07
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what I am unhappy about is they assume they can simply pluck characters
from Vvardenfell as they see fit, and their ideas for their MainQuest
had nothing to do with Dagoth Ur and only what was necessary of the
Nerevarine BEFORE they joined... it is the principle of the matter...
it is almost like say the Skyrim mod taking the Mane of Elsweyr... just isn't good
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2006.09.30 16:59 |
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TheImperialDragon
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Registration Date: 2006.06.21
Posts: 6,322
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Except their ideas for the Nerevarine come from lore. The Nerevarine
went to Akavir, and Dagoth Ur is essentially dead. The Nerevarine's
place is no longer on Vvardenfell, or so that is what I thought. You
see, the Nerevarine IS already on Akavir in Oblivion's timeline, so it
might be a little hard to get the Nerevarine back on Vvardenfell.
Now, Dagoth Ur and Vivec SHOULD stay on Vvardenfell. The Nerevarine...
might have left some things for his predecessors... Notes, clues, words
of wisdom, artifacts, etc...
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2006.09.30 17:20 |
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KuKulzA
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Registration Date: 2005.09.07
Posts: 7,619
Location: USA / Taiwan
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yeah I know...
but first tey have Nerevarine... then they soultrap Dagoth ur... and
their MQ isn't even done, what more will happen? Plus, he mentioned
having knowledge of the Tools and the Heart and all that, things Tosh
Raka may not have even imagined of... I dunno about you but I feel
something is wrong...
me and Cogidubnus are discussing a time to chat on an I'm to try to
clear things up, we are on good terms, I think we should be able to
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2006.09.30 23:09 |
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X23
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Registration Date: 2006.03.14
Posts: 1,065
Location: Philadelphia
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I just got back, why are they using Vvardenfell characters?? Dagoth Ur was killed of wasn't he?
Maybe they could have another person pretending to be the Nerevarine if we are going to use him?
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