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reading on the BSForums has got me thinking....
should we have a dragon in our mod? just a thought


now I know it was never truly stated as fact that dragons once lived in Morrowind but its very possible
but if we do it'll be tied to the main quest... maybe it cam eback to die on the slopes of Red Mt. near the Heart of Lorkhan, and it realizes furiously that the Heart is gone, and tries to find the one who destroyed it... obviously Nerevarine, but he/she aint here, only one here is Vivec... so it'll be interesting, but we'll see, I wanna see some opinions on this all-of-a-sudden random sorta strange idea
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One thing I've been wondering about is would large models (Your Dragon and Stilt Striders come to mind) be rendered using havoc physics? If so, I wonder wheather your character could be crushed (or at the very least get very stuck) under these large models?
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One thing I've been wondering about is would large models (Your Dragon and Stilt Striders come to mind) be rendered using havoc physics? If so, I wonder wheather your character could be crushed (or at the very least get very stuck) under these large models?
hahaha, that would be very funny :lmao:
I come to fight the great drago-.... SPLAT!


EDIT: or...
okay, so how do I climb up the strider again? let's try... SPLAT!

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:lmao: Hah, not a bad idea.

Nah seriously though, I think the Silt(! :D ) Striders would have to be made so they can't be attacked, like they were in Morrowind. Although we could try it... just so they can collapse on the player! :)

KuKulzA- I'm against the idea, to be honest. I just don't like dragons, and I think they'd be hard to implement and stuff for Oblivion, especially with dragon fire breath stuff. Just sounds complicated. I dunno
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it was just an idea, nothing more...
I'm not entirely serious about it either, but I want to hear opinions Yes
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Meh, they had several dragon models in TES3, but I think it will have a hard time fitting into lore. How about it tried to escape the Tscaesi (sp?) Empire in Akavir, so it fled across the sea to the only other land it would know, Morrowind.

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Also I was thinking, an emperor crab?

If you swim out far enough you can find one?

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Yes Sounds good, maybe we could make the dragon have some correlation to Akatosh? Maybe it had something to do with the last Dragon Break?

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I dunno, if you want to expand upon that idea its cool
I was just wondering what the opinions where and why
the dragon isn't a serious idea but its a possibility

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wanna try being constructive?
try like explaining why it would break lore

we add NPCs to Vvardenfell thats not lore breaking, but we slightly consider maybe having a dragon return to Morrowind where they are said to have fled long ago from and its breaking lore... TOYB, if you have nothing good to say except some of those short rude phrases or opinions without backing, don't post at all
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It's not that it's a bad idea though, I mean, it would be pretty cool to fight a dragon. And now that I think, Oblivion's Daedroth's breathe fire, right? So it probably won't be as hard to implement as I originally thought. :)
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Also I was thinking, an emperor crab?

If you swim out far enough you can find one?


maybe Wink
no I'm entirely serious, maybe not right now but in the future
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I thought all dragons were extinct... I dunno

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quote:
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I think there's already been a conversation about this.

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I thought all dragons were extinct... I dunno


I think there are still dragons in Akavir.

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quote:
Originally posted by KuKulzA
I dunno, if you want to expand upon that idea its cool
I was just wondering what the opinions where and why
the dragon isn't a serious idea but its a possibility

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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
L-o-r-e b-r-e-a-k-i-n-g

wanna try being constructive?
try like explaining why it would break lore

we add NPCs to Vvardenfell thats not lore breaking, but we slightly consider maybe having a dragon return to Morrowind where they are said to have fled long ago from and its breaking lore... TOYB, if you have nothing good to say except some of those short rude phrases or opinions without backing, don't post at all



It wasn't rude, you just chose to take it that way.

And we know why all dragon's are extinct aswell, the Skylamps drovethem all away/ate them. Also the fact that all Dragons on Akavir were killed, that there a few in Tamtreil, but are said only to exist in the west, and because if there was any to be found, they would be to imposibly high up for the player to reach (by my understanding of Mi'aq teachings Tongue ).

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quote:
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It wasn't rude, you just chose to take it that way.

well if you know I take it that way then please don't do things that way on purpose
we aren't here to cause trouble, we're here to get along and mod

what I don';t understand is where lore says a dragon can't/won't come back to Morrowind
I'm not saying we are going with this idea but I am saying it is an interesting possibility
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I vote no for dragons they just don't suit the dragons of tamriels setting dummer are to asian in my view. Now a giant crap or something in the water would be awesome.

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Now a giant crap or something in the water would be awesome.

A giant crap?!!! But why?! :lmao:

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quote:
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Now a giant crap or something in the water would be awesome.

A giant crap?!!! But why?! :lmao:

and the player gets stuck in it! Frown Retro

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Lol poor Champion of Cyrodiil, goes to Vvardenfell and gets stuckin crap in the water
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hehehe
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quote:
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I vote no for dragons they just don't suit the dragons of tamriels setting dummer are to asian in my view. Now a giant crap or something in the water would be awesome.


I see them far more (american) indian.

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as they are based on many cultures.. having native american and many asiatic influences...
but see them as Morrowind... I mean Bethesda did a good job making them very unique
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o I didn't even realize until now I spelt crap not crab lol.

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Haha, luckily with our superior intelect we were able to deduce what you meant! Wink
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enough of crap, culture, etc. back to the dragon idea Yes

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o I didn't even realize until now I spelt crap not crab lol.
it's all good, gave us quite an amusement
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Saiden Storm just released a mod with a rideable, fully animated akatosh.
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Been a while since I beat the game, but I remember Akatosh being pretty big. How does it do with clipping, etc?

Also, (stupid question) am I correct in presuming this thing can fly?
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Well don't get your hopes up, from what I've seen the mod is pretty lame... IMHO. The dragon is just a retextured model of Peryite and the animation isn't really good.

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Animation was impossible until a couple of months ago, so any animation on a dragon is pretty impressive in my mind. It will only get better.

Prehaps with Dagoth gone, a dragon will return to red mountain? They like high places to roost, and prehaps we could make it a quest, to help the dragon make a comeback in Tamriel. Along the way we could also explain and add to the lore.

A fightable dragon though? That seems hard, if not downright impossible. Even disregarding the MASSIVE animation and clipping problems, it just breaks the laws of logic if a puny human can kill a dragon. It doesn't even need to fight, it just needs to sit on you.

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Why not have dragons? Vvardenfell is located relatively close to Akavir, and that place recently hasn't been treating their dragons that can fly away too nicely, so one would assume they'd go to VVardenfell.

And dragons aren't specifically Asian or anything. You can look at almost all ancient cultures in the world and find dragons. Russia, The Aztecs and the others over there, Greece, Rome, Britain, etc...

Maybe not the dragon itself, but possibly a fossilized dragon, as a very long time passed since they fled to Morrowind I think.

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What about having it as an easter egg, somewhere really well hidden, so that it doesn't break lore?

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No Its best not we don't have one.

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I'm with Ebonyknight, I also think it's best not to have one because it just doesn't fit in anything that Vvardenfell is known for. Also, from the previous thread of Seniosh, I don't think a dragon would be so scared of Dagoth Ur that it would leave its home (if it did live in Red Mountain that is).
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Originally posted by IAMTHEEMPEROR
Maybe not the dragon itself, but possibly a fossilized dragon, as a very long time passed since they fled to Morrowind I think.


yea... maybe a giant dragon skeleton slightly protruding from the ash... and an excavation team is real excited and warding off local Dunmer who want to sell the bones or use them in mystical ancestor rituals, or in medicines...
etc.etc.

sounds actually cooler than a living dragon... a dead dragon... somehow it seems very fitting
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Make another Hadhafang(sp?)? It won't necessarily be a dagger this time though.

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That would be a very fascinating storyline, but how would the player have a part in this plot. Defend the bones from an evil organization maybe. Dunno.
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