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Zurke
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BalmoraMS10 [finished]

District: Market Street
Cell name: VvXXBalmoraMS10 (replace XX with your mod ID)
Difficulty: easy
NPC's: tbd
Race: Dunmer\hlaalu
Class: MerchantBookseller
Name generator: Link

Completed by: Hegemege

Description:

Dorisa Darvel: Bookseller
Dorisa a quiet book collector and seller and very well educated.

The exterior does not need to be assembled. Add some unique dialogue and full AI. Place a northmarker somewhere in the cell.

Create a new interior, position the first piece of the tileset at X, Y, Z = 0, 0, 0. Use snap to grid (32-64) and snap to angle to create a basement etc. from a tileset.

The photos are for creating the interior with the tileset make sure you take notice of any window placement. No resemblance of decoration is needed.

(Originated by: cire992)

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This post has been edited 14 time(s), it was last edited by Zurke: 2008.07.26 22:19.

2008.06.18 22:14

Hegemege
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I'm happy to inform you that I'll now start making Balmora more playable

I'll take it.

Edit(s)

What's the .esp name?

Why dorisadarvel level is 256 Confused

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2008.06.23 15:21

Dave_91
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No problem. Check

Just name it like the cell name (VvXXBalmoraMS10) except with your mod abbreviation and a version number (i.e. v1.0).

quote:

Why dorisadarvel level is 256

That'll probably be an effect of the TES3 -> TES4 NPC converter. Change the level to something more suitable like level 7 or something (she was level 3 in MW).

Remember to use the Vvardenfell.esm.

Have fun.

2008.06.23 15:36

Zurke
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Also Hegemege please turn in the interior tileset for review before any placement is done. I trust it may save time in the end if something is not configured correctly. I will make a note for future reference in the claims thread. Thanks.

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2008.06.23 16:37

Hegemege
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Here is the tileset for review. I made a little add-on because the tileset doesn't fit with this kind of square room with stairs somehow. The addon is realistic and it won't come out of the exterior walls because your pics interior is smaller than the exterior model

Attachment:

VvHmBalmoraMS10v0.91.esp (2 KB, 3 downloads)

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2008.06.23 17:24

Dave_91
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It looks fine to me. Good job!

2008.06.23 18:40

Zurke
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Hegemege the interiors need to look like the exterior in design. I apologize if I was not clear in stating that in the claim. The photo's are for helping to create an interior so the modder doesn't have to open the CS to find it.

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2008.06.23 19:01

Hegemege
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Ah, now I understand.

But there aren't much choise with that small exterior, or if I make 100 X 100 tiles cave under that house Brew

So I can start decorating?

EDIT: I visited the place in MW and there is a guard Uh Oh

How about this version of Balmoras Bookshop? Is there guard or is Dorisa all alone? Maybe she found a husband which also works as a guard

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2008.06.23 19:06

Zurke
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quote:

Originally posted by Hegemege
Ah, now I understand.

But there aren't much choise with that small exterior, or if I make 100 X 100 tiles cave under that house Brew

So I can start decorating?

EDIT: I visited the place in MW and there is a guard Uh Oh

How about this version of Balmoras Bookshop? Is there guard or is Dorisa all alone? Maybe she found a husband which also works as a guard

If Dave_91 says he likes it then it should be fine. Dont worry about the exterior the interior matches the exterior by layout and that is what matters. They are two different world spaces.

Dorisa Darvel should be in the NPC list. The AI and dialogue and packages are not. You may have to tweak her stats/inventory also I am not sure.

If you want to create a guard do so. He should be posted while the shop is in business.

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2008.06.23 19:22

Hegemege
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What's her class? Not MerchantBookseller but poor, middle or rich?

That should be written in the Claim Details section, I think. Wink

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2008.06.24 12:26

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Although I think I can see some Limeware in the TES3 screenshots, I'd say she's lower class.

2008.06.24 14:10

Zurke
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quote:

Originally posted by Hegemege
What's her class? Not MerchantBookseller but poor, middle or rich?

That should be written in the Claim Details section, I think. Wink

Hi Hegemege. I would say her shop is poor/middle. I agree with Dave_91 about how she looks but that is Morrowind. Considering she is a merchant and not selling out of her house but has a shop I am inclined to say middle personal attire.

edit: Hegemege, I looked at the esp for the interior tileset. I agree it looks good, but you will need to place shoes at the base of the walls where they join up. Use a large quarter round in the corners and two large quarter rounds to make up a half round on the straight runs.

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2008.06.24 15:46

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quote:

Originally posted by Zurke

edit: Hegemege, I looked at the esp for the interior tileset. I agree it looks good, but you will need to place shoes at the base of the walls where they join up. Use a large quarter round in the corners and two large quarter rounds to make up a half round on the straight runs.

Well, then I need to move the furniture a bit because I'm actually near done with the interior. Only AI and Dial left.

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2008.06.24 18:08

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The interior looks now very good without the shoes, do I really need to put them? And if I need to, can I left some pillars without the shoes because of they're not visible, ie. behind crates or baskets. I can take some screenies or post the file, it's now ready.

I'll hold the esp for the last decision.

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2008.06.24 21:06

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quote:

Originally posted by Hegemege
The interior looks now very good without the shoes, do I really need to put them? And if I need to, can I left some pillars without the shoes because of they're not visible, ie. behind crates or baskets. I can take some screenies or post the file, it's now ready.

I'll hold the esp for the last decision.

Send it in I will look at it. I will be doing the rest of the interior tiles so no need to be concerned again.

edit: Hegemege. I look at anterior without the shoes. Your right it has more room and doesn't look bad. Make sure all corners do have a shoe. There obviously should be a shoe where you need to complete a partial shoe in the tiles. No Shoes on striaght run of wall. Good catch

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2008.06.25 02:07

Hegemege
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One bookseller for our (n)ever growing Balmora!

Notice that

I tried to make her face same as the MW, a bit older, but I'm not good manually making faces and the MW CS and OB CS face gen. is quite different (I think, I've never used MW CS)
I don't know how I should lock the door so I left it Needs a key. You may want to change it?
Are there factions for Vv Dials yet? dorisadarvel isn't member of any faction now, so you need to change this if there are factions for Dials of Balmora or Dials for all Booksellers.

It was very fun to make this interior

Attachment:

VvHmBalmoraMS10v1.0.esp (22 KB, 4 downloads)

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2008.06.25 12:11

Zurke
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quote:

Originally posted by Hegemege
One bookseller for our (n)ever growing Balmora!

Notice that

I tried to make her face same as the MW, a bit older, but I'm not good manually making faces and the MW CS and OB CS face gen. is quite different (I think, I've never used MW CS)
I don't know how I should lock the door so I left it Needs a key. You may want to change it?
Are there factions for Vv Dials yet? dorisadarvel isn't member of any faction now, so you need to change this if there are factions for Dials of Balmora or Dials for all Booksellers.

It was very fun to make this interior

Nothing yet on the factions. Thanks Hegemege. Dave_91 or I will check it out.

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2008.06.25 17:29

Zurke
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I see what you are saying Hegemege. The NPC is stock in what it looks like. I thought it would have kept the features for the most part. Darn, oh well . I will check out the file Hege.

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2008.06.26 00:22

Zurke
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Hegemege sorry about the wait but between ST and here it gets busy

. The mod and interior look good.

This is a book shop not a misc items shop. There are a lot of sacks and boxes of misc items which don't need to be in a book store.

You must have used havoc on the apples in the bowl on second level because there was a lot of bleeding in game.

Dorisa has only one item for sale. Will see sell more than that?

Create a cell faction like we do at ST.

ie: VVBalmoraMS10Faction and use that as owner of cell.

Good job so far Hegemege.

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2008.06.26 18:55

Hegemege
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Thanks for the review.

quote:

Originally posted by Zurke
Create a cell faction like we do at ST.

ie: VVBalmoraMS10Faction and use that as owner of cell.

IMO there is no need for faction if there is one NPC. With ie. two NPCs without faction the non-cell owner sees you steal something, he doesn't react to it.

quote:

Originally posted by Zurke
You must have used havoc on the apples in the bowl on second level because there was a lot of bleeding in game.

Yes I did, sorry not mentioning that, Fixed

quote:

Originally posted by Zurke
Dorisa has only one item for sale. Will see sell more than that?

For me she got plenty of books for sale. Did you remember to check that Vvardenfell.esm is loaded before/after/without ST? I tried all of them and it works perfectly.

quote:

Originally posted by Zurke
This is a book shop not a misc items shop. There are a lot of sacks and boxes of misc items which don't need to be in a book store.

You see, it's not just a book store, there is a woman living there too, I'm not sure did you notice

So the crates etc behind the corner is her storage. I removed the sacks and replaced some more books on the lowest shelf.

Attachment:

VvHmBalmoraMS10v1.1.esp (23 KB, 1 downloads)

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2008.06.26 19:56

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Good to go Hegemege. Good job!

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2008.06.27 21:12

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