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kingevil
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I think high rock could really use some new members , forums are pretty dead . We already have a ESF thread ?
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Mormacil
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Well then get that interview for the newsletter done 
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2007.01.04 19:01 |
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WhiteWizard
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Well, I haven't really been here for the last few days, because I was
really busy. But I'm back and finally have the reviews for the claims
done. As for the news letter interview, I seriously can't answer most
of the questions, basically I'm just trying to keep the project alive
and review claims until Gyssar gets back. And the ESF thread, we are
working on that now.
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2007.01.04 19:39 |
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Baron
Registration Date: 2006.10.08
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I'm wondering why you guys don't show up at moddb. I mean all of you,
there is modd page for silgrad tower mod, but that's all. You from all
mods could gather all media you have and then try to get at the moddb
front page. Hopefully someone will come and help.
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Baron
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Originally posted by Lady Nerevar
well, for one thing mods have t have a website |
Ah yes, I forgot about this rule.
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2007.01.04 21:28 |
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raggidman
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Registration Date: 2006.01.06
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So time you guys put together a website? Then you'ld qualify.
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2007.01.08 14:59 |
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Lady Nerevar
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Registration Date: 2006.01.04
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the main problem I see is lack of interest and organisation. what few
members this project does have are doing little or nothing towards it.
nothing puts member's off more then lack of progres. when I look at the
board I see very little (enough to say nothing) in terms of progres.
there are a couple of claims started and a couple of CA's drawn, but
when one compares that to the skale of the whole province its like a
germ on a human's body.
what I think is needed first and formost is interest. if the members
who are alredy present are interested in the project they will become
more dedicated and get stuff done. if they get stuff done then there is
not only progres on the project but also stuff to attract new members.
when those new members are interested they too will work, and stuff
gets done.
organisation is just making things simpler in the long run. if forums
are strucktured, everything is easy to locate, and there aren't piles
of irelevant information to sort though people will be able to know
what the project is about and what they can do to help much faster. it
will also make life much simpler because there is less space (forum
whise) to watch, organise, and maintain. leme just site a frequent
example of mine, TR's claims browser. while it is a very difficult
peace of code and requiered a long time to build to its current state,
it simplifies every part of the claiming proces. any modder can see
what he has done and what is avaliable at the click of a button, and
moderators can track every aspect of the claim's progres from being
claimed to being finished just as easily.
similarly, any person should be able to find anything and everything
they need in a fast and orderly maner about the forum. if a person
doesent know where to claim something, chanses are he wont claim it at
all.
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This post has been edited 2 time(s), it was last edited by Lady Nerevar: 2007.01.08 21:33.
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2007.01.08 21:27 |
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Hrafnkel
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There's a lot of subforums, but this board is anything but difficult to navigate, IMO. I kind of prefer it to the others.
Unfortunately, while the interest my be present, for some of us this is a very very busy period IRL.
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2007.01.09 00:08 |
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WhiteWizard
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Well,
I agree with allot of the things you are all saying. I am very busy in
real life, I think it is a miracle that I managed to get the article
done. The boards are hard to navigate, but you get used to it and it
gets easier. Like I said earlier, we are working on a official forums
thread, hopefully that will help. If I knew how and could find a good
host I would have probably made a website already.
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2007.01.09 00:23 |
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Richard
Chieftain of Skyrim
Registration Date: 2006.08.23
Posts: 777
Location: Invercargill, New Zealand
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Here's my experience:
The reason I don't offer more help (say, compared to my Skyrim
contributions) is that I feel that the project isn't far enough along.
Which is stupid I know, because how the hell is it going to advance if
people like me say that lol. But honestly, that's my reason. Also
perhaps because I like the Skyrim setting.
But I'm sure there must be people on ESF willing to help. I haven't
seen a High Rock thread on there, only Skyrim and Tamriel-Rebuilt
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2007.01.09 09:00 |
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Krisi-_
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Registration Date: 2006.06.27
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Location: Norway
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is it now..? and people get used to anything in time.. but for new members its good to be able to see where to go..
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2007.01.09 15:28 |
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Arbiter
Archduke
Registration Date: 2005.10.24
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Location: Croatia the Nether-Bringer
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Originally posted by Lady Nerevar
ESF is just about pointles for recruiting, unless you bump in
constantly (wich is not a good PR strategy) or unless you have a
release. The most people who can make a contribution are alredy working
on something else, and the rest just like to put your mod on the "cant
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Hmm... so what alternative methods do you suggest? It's hit-or-miss mostly... sometimes you catch someone who's good. 
Hook 'em while they're young. 
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2007.01.09 21:20 |
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Ghogiel
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Registration Date: 2006.08.16
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I play a Breton.
I believe the selling point is where its at. I am sold on the look, the
culture, The feel, the very strong imagery, the lore behind
vvarndenfell, Skyrim, hammerfell. Those places I can imagine being. You
immediately know where your at when you see it.
High Rock is atleast as dope as them. Its has Daggerfall, Big selling point.
Knightly orders out the wazoo.
nobility left, right and center, possibility of a really complex
twisting political plot and intrigue. Power struggles, Orsinium.
It borders on Skyrim and Hammerfell.
It has enough potential to say the least. I love all that. Thats why I play a Breton.
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2007.01.09 22:37 |
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Arbiter
Archduke
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Location: Croatia the Nether-Bringer
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Quite contrary if you ask me; I find that this setting will be HR's
main weakness. Why? Because it looks so much like OB itself.
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2007.01.09 22:44 |
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KuKulzA
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which is why good old orcses give it flavor
then again orcs are a very common theme in fantasy
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2007.01.09 23:04 |
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Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man
Registration Date: 2006.08.15
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Elder Scrolls orcs are not like other orcs, there used to be High Elfs
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Arbiter
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Originally posted by Mormacil
Elder Scrolls orcs are not like other orcs, there used to be High Elfs
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Only according to Tolkien, but let's not go OT,
Luckily there are people out there who are into Medieval setting. 
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2007.01.09 23:13 |
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Ghogiel
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Perhaps.
I see clear difference between cyrodiil and how I imagine high rock.
1 being west European/high fantasy the other being Greek/Mediterranean high fantasy
the difference to me is as striking as the viking/Scandinavian of Skyrim or the Persian/middle Asian of Hammerfell. 
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2007.01.09 23:19 |
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Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man
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You can make good use of the close connection between Bretons and Ayleids
Create great temples and Ayleid structures. Create great magical wonders, maybe long forgotten, burried under de dirt.
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2007.01.09 23:20 |
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WhiteWizard
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| well,
it is also the most "stereotypical" of the provinces, being that it is
medieval and stuff. people might not want to see that as much after CD. |
I agree, but there is not much we can do about it without going away from lore.
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| Create great temples and Ayleid structures. Create great magical wonders, maybe long forgotten, burried under de dirt. |
Maybe, but again, lore.
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reason I don't offer more help (say, compared to my Skyrim
contributions) is that I feel that the project isn't far enough along.
Which is stupid I know, because how the hell is it going to advance if
people like me say that lol. But honestly, that's my reason. |
True, people might not join if they think it will fail.
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High Rock Forums aren't very well organised/layed out, compared to most
of the BC, and it can be off-putting for a lot of people, they then
bounce from this project to another BC project. |
Yeah, I'm trying to think of a new format to make it easier...
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is just about pointles for recruiting, unless you bump in constantly
(wich is not a good PR strategy) or unless you have a release. The most
people who can make a contribution are alredy working on something
else, and the rest just like to put your mod on the "cant wait for
this" list. |
Still, it is worth a try.
I will admit that I'm not the best leader, but I'm trying. But I am
pretty much the only person who can really be leader right now, so
thats that. Gyssar should be gone for awhile, so I am probably going to
try to make some major changes to the forum structure and other things.
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Lady Nerevar
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Ghogiel, I'm assuming that the greek/mediterranean is HR. while there
would probably be some mediteranean type areas in the south (HF and
all) the north-centeral parts are definatly european (see PGEs)
the important thing is not to draw cut and clear culture referances
however. MW had a lot of realworld stuff just like OB does, but the way
that MW mixed it up withing itself and added pure fantasy elements made
it very interesting.
what I realy think the "leadership" (not only the leader, the rest of
the people who are supose to be helping) need to do is set a clear mood
for the province. CA will most likly be needed, but much of it can be
done though clear planing and words. Yall should take what we alredy
know about HR, and pan it out so that the CA's and other conceptual
stage workers know exactly what to work towards. I STRONGLY recomend
taking a look at the old PGE ilustrations, and they are quite
interesing besides providing tons of insite into the cultrure
if done well, HR can incorporate many, many different cultural
referances, both fictional and real world. To the south there is
hammerfell, to the east skyrim. elves and atmorans colonised it
originaly. the horse people of the bjoulsae have some mongolian
referances, and the cities are (while being mostly european in
character) are still very diverse.
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2007.01.10 21:25 |
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Ghogiel
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Mediterranean was probably a poor choice of words. The area surrounding
med has seen more cultures and come and go than anywhere else I can
think of.
True enough. Tamriel's culture isn't found anywhere specifically in RL. Never seen a Redoran hut myself.
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Mufin
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Lady Nerevar, I am sorry, I don't mean to be vicious, but I read this and I had to comment:
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| Ghogiel,
I'm assuming that the greek/mediterranean is HR. while there would
probably be some mediteranean type areas in the south (HF and all) the
north-centeral parts are definatly european (see PGEs) |
Do you mantain that Greece doesn't lie in Europe? This is a bold claim 
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2007.01.17 21:13 |
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Mufin
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Now I know what you mean. But you are confusing two different eras. In
Middle Ages, in Greece, Italy, or Spain, there were also plenty of
castles, huts, fields. In antiquity there were no castles at all. At
least not those castles we consider proper castles.
Also, please keep in mind that Greeks would feel slightly insulted, if they heard that they didn't live in Europe
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Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man
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LIke you say they're part of Turkey
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