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KuKulzA
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I understand this Skyrim is going to be based on Nords right with some backup with real world celtic and norse stuff
I was wondering if there is anything like russians in TES's skyrim. I
would imagine that the original nedic peoples here, or the earlier
Nords came and were small time farmers. In war they'd be
mass-conscripted. The Nords came and when they beat the Falmer,
liberated these folks. Of course the Nords are a minority as they were
raiders and colonists.
SO I think to break it down...
Celtic- would be the Nords living in the forests and hill-lands.
These Nords living close to the western border have developed a sort of
unique culture, a mix between Nord and Breton. I am thinking that the
celitc-style Nords would live like the Germanic & Gaul tribes long
ago when Rome was young, small time farmers, hunters, and raiders.
Norse- would be the viking like Nords. These Nords are the
wood-crafters, the raiders, the warriors. They be mostly near their
Holds on the coast. These would be your 'normal' Nords and would be the
most well traveled.
Slavic- these would be the first nedic peoples of Skyrim. They
would live in poor peasant communities. They would be reminiscent of
Russian peasants. These guys would live almost totally inland.
I am thinking that unlike most Nords, the (slavic) Nords would be
darker haired. They would be stouter and greasier. They would be
predominantly farmers. Perhaps on of the Nordic holds would be
controlled by them, another by the (celtic) Nords and the rest
controlled by true Nords. I think the area around Whiterun should
belong to these inland pre-Nords. To the western areas of forest the
(celtic) Nords would like like in Markarth Side.
Also I think the slavic type Nords would speak a different language.
More slavic of course, but with a lot of Nord influence as the Nords
conquered them.
(sounds familiar... like the Rus conquered Russian and called the
people the slavs, and the slavs called them Rus, but the land was named
after the Rus, not the slavs.)
so what to call these Celtic Nords and Slavic Nords?
the salvic types live in the hills or in farms... for Haugr Nords?Akr Nords? or Flokkr Nords are they come in large numbers?
and the celtic types live in forests and fields.... Hagi Nords? Vestur Nords (western), Skakkr Nord (scraggy).... out of ideas
how about a way to describe them in context... the slavic ones I mean
"the darker-haired Nedes inland rose in great numbers to fight the
sons of Atmora. However, though opressed to fight by the point of the
sword, winter was coming, and the bite of the winter was worse than the
steel of their Sotniks. With so few good warriors and many forced to
fight, these hillmen won only when they greatly outnumbered us Nords."
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by KuKulzA: 15.04.2006 14:34.
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Siegfried
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Well maybe, I'm not sure they'll be as uniquelly developed a group as
what you're saying, but that's really up to Danath_in and Galrina,
we'll probably have some Russian style Holds though, with onion domes
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17.04.2006 15:28 |
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KuKulzA
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yeah.... cause I mean.... realistically... every group of people developes their own style...
Chinese are Chinese.... but Manchurians and Han are different...
I think the Nords or the pre-Nord groups had their own styles and ways,
but all have certain traits making them Nord or Cyrodiilic, or Breton,
or Redguard... right? |
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18.04.2006 22:39 |
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Siegfried
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True, I've always interpreted lore as being that the first humans on
Tamriel were Nords, and the Bretons and Imperials are descended from
them. So the whole thing about the Russian Nedes being in Skryim before
the Nords just doesn't seem to work, besides, at first relations
between the first Nords and Elves were friendly, but then the elves
attacked the humans in "the Night of Tears" trying to drive them out of
Skyrim because they viewed them as invasive pests. The Russian Nedes
would have been wiped out by the elves long before the Nords landed in
Skyrim. I do think though that some of the holds in our mod will show
some of the qualities that you mentioned Kukulza. Another thing I think
would be really cool for a hold is one with Akaviri influenced
architecture, like Cloud Ruler Temple, and maybe one that was once a
Falmer city, or is built over the ruins of one. |
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18.04.2006 23:37 |
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Siegfried
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Ok so the Akaviri architecture thing might be a bit far fetched, but I
could have sworn that the Tsaeci came through Skyrim, and Reman battled
them at Pale Pass. And didn't a Tsaec dynastyi take control of the
Empire after the end of the Reman Dynasty, and then Tiber Septim took
what was left of the Empire from them, then conquered the rest of
Tamriel? I remember having a long talk with the Countess of Bruma about
all this stuff. As for Falmer, a hold built by Falmer might be a bit
far-fetched, but from what I know they did exist at one point, so they
would have had cities. Why couldn't the Nords conquer one and take it
for their own? |
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