 Non-Fiction, Frost Magic and Necromancy, II |
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This book will deal with the differnt types of Profane creatures that
are involved with frost magic necromancy and how they may be
destroyed/created. It will also include a few rough Sketchs of the
differnt types of creatures with a discription.
Draugr
Draugr although found in Skyrim are not creatures of Frost Necromancy,
they are infact closer to a lich. They are included in this book
because they do not fit into the traditional forms of Necromancy for
three reasons, one being that they share no similarites in terms of how
to become one compared to traditional ways, two being that they have
been around longer then traditional Necromancy, and third, they have no
relation to the sload.
Draugr are undead nords who have died normally in a tradgic way and are
denied access to Sovengard(sp), their souls being trapped between life
and death. They are normally enhanced by magical ornaments that were
buired with them at death. Draugrs are commonly found in and nearby
Nordic Burial Tombs.
Ice Zombie
Ice Zombies are undead of tradtional necromancy enchanced by
frostmagic. The ice that covers these creatures is magical and is kept
constienty cold either by a constant magical flow from the controler,
or in some cases directly from the creatures soul. These creatures are
very powerful and in most cases are usable longer then traditional
Zombies, this is because the ice that surrounds the creatures apart
from acting as armour also keeps the flesh of the creature fresh,
prolonging it's life. However if the ice surrounding the creature is
damaged it is prone to bacteria getting in and if bacteria get in, they
quickly destroy the flesh. If the flesh is destoryed the ice covering
the creaure colapses in on it's self and the Ice Zombie is instantly
destroyed. These creatures can be found all over Skyrim, normally with
a controller.
This post has been edited 2 time(s), it was last edited by The Old Ye Bard: 12.11.2006 08:11.
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09.07.2006 01:32 |
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raggidman
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Sort of a Necrobotanic Book? 
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11.07.2006 01:28 |
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Ice Wraith
Ice wraiths have existed before Traditional methods of Necromancy and
Frost Necromancy and it is only in the last hundred years that they
have been seen with a summoner. The reason behind this is debated
amongst researchers, although it is known that these forms of wraiths
are more unreliable in terms of how dangerous the summonings are. The
reason behind why the summonings are so dangerous is that these
creatures endured a horrific death, normally dieing in relation to the
snow or ice (e.g. falling into an icy river and freezing to death). The
same reason can be applied to the way they look; normally they will
appear in gruesome fashion resembling their skeletal corpse surrounded
by an icy mist. To gain citizenship in Skyrim you must kill an ice
wraith, at least in the Northern Holds.
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29.07.2006 23:29 |
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Greybeard
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definitely a book we should have in Haerter's Gap. Raggidman, you were
wondering about deadlines? We're pushing to release the Gap on Sept
1st, so the book deadline would be a week or so before that. TOYB, I
hope that doesn't put too much strain on you, either. |
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29.07.2006 23:42 |
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Well I could get this book finished in that time, maybe one other in
the series but not all three that's too much, this book alone I have
about 10 more creatures to write up, also they all need their own
pictures to go with.
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29.07.2006 23:45 |
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Greybeard
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Not a problem. I've asked raggidman to look at Nord Rune Chant, so
hopefully that'll make the release. That'll give us fiction, scientific
and poetic selections. Not bad for a teaser, I'm thinking, especially
if we get that arena poster and map of skyrim. |
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29.07.2006 23:57 |
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Siegfried
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Sounding very nice so far TOYB.
Greybeard: Why not just include one Frost Magic and Necromancy book,
that way we can tease people with our upcomming content, but not have
that much work to worry about.
I think that Draugrs were Nord warriors who found themselves starving
to death, and so ate their companions, the gods cursed them for their
sins into the Draugr. I suggest posting about it on the Imperial
Library. Think Donner Party... |
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30.07.2006 06:43 |
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KuKulzA
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also.... maybe it is just me but Draugr look...
either like... an unwrapped mummy... a man with flesh of smoked jerky,
or someone who's been rotting in a peat bog for 300 years.... maybe all
three of them... and that cannibal thing to top it off to make.. the
draugr |
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30.07.2006 07:34 |
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Bonewolf
Although rarely is it assoiciated with Frost Necromancy, bonewolfs
where the first creations of the art. Today they have taken a dramatic
turn towards tradintional forms, however when these creatures of the
profane where which created they releied heavly on their ability to
resist frost(The bonewolf of Frost Necromancy can only be created from
a Snowwolf), however today this is no longer a problem and any type of
wolf will do, how ever a resurected wolf is not a bonewolf. Bonewolfs
are the most common of all creatures of frost necromancy and can be
found all over Skyrim, normally with a controller.
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31.07.2006 06:35 |
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TheImperialDragon
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Hmm... In Daggerfall, there was a Skin atronach or something like that, or was it flesh (sp)?
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31.07.2006 10:52 |
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It was flesh, and it will not make an apperance in this book as it has nothing to do with Frost Magic Necromancy.
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31.07.2006 21:41 |
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31.07.2006 23:13 |
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TheImperialDragon
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Why not? "no" isn't very insightful, you know.
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01.08.2006 02:13 |
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Because it's not a creature of Frost Magic Necromancy.
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01.08.2006 02:29 |
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01.08.2006 03:09 |
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Greybeard
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You're getting closer, TID, but I'm not sure how necromancy would fit in since they aren't magical beings.
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01.08.2006 03:18 |
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TheImperialDragon
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Okay then...
Ice Liches?
Frost Zombies?
Frozen Skeletons?
Some original things would be nice...
Undead Mammoth
Glacial Bear
Fossil Dreugh (not Draughr (sp))
Mad Giant
Death Champions...
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01.08.2006 04:18 |
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Plze stop it it TID, I don't think you know what this thread is about
because what you are posting isn't contributing at all to this
discussin.
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01.08.2006 05:37 |
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Siegfried
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
Plze stop it it TID, I don't think you know what this thread is about
because what you are posting isn't contributing at all to this
discussin. |
I'm guessing you already have all your creatures planned out, and you don't want any new ideas as of now right?
TID, once we have an animation program that undead mammoth could be
sweet. Maybe start a new thread with some of your ideas and expand on
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01.08.2006 05:42 |
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No, what I ment is he doesn't get the whole Frost Magic Necromancy thing. Also this isn't a book about any creatures, what is the point of posting"Mad Giant".
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01.08.2006 05:48 |
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TheImperialDragon
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
Plze stop it it TID, I don't think you know what this thread is about
because what you are posting isn't contributing at all to this
discussin. |
Hey, now I'm just trying to help. Fine, if you don't want my help, then
so be it. Not once have I ever heard anything positive from you
regarding mine or anyone else's work, and I'm getting sick of this, now
I admit, I may have been just suggesting random things, but I was just
brainstorming a bunch of undead creatures. Just because a creature is
called "Mad Giant" doesn't mean it isn't an undead creature, I was
thinking of a giant brought to life by necromancy magic. The rest were
all just things off the top of my head, and I don't see the problem
with a "Fossil Mammoth" or something like that. If you don't want
opinions, why don't you just say so, because it's starting to seem to
me that you don't like other peoples' advice or suggestions, or have
any appreciation for any effort on anyone elses' part.
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01.08.2006 06:15 |
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Originally posted by TheImperialDragon
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
Plze stop it it TID, I don't think you know what this thread is about
because what you are posting isn't contributing at all to this
discussin. |
Hey, now I'm just trying to help. Fine, if you don't want my help, then
so be it. Not once have I ever heard anything positive from you
regarding mine or anyone else's work, and I'm getting sick of this, now
I admit, I may have been just suggesting random things, but I was just
brainstorming a bunch of undead creatures. Just because a creature is
called "Mad Giant" doesn't mean it isn't an undead creature, I was
thinking of a giant brought to life by necromancy magic. The rest were
all just things off the top of my head, and I don't see the problem
with a "Fossil Mammoth" or something like that. If you don't want
opinions, why don't you just say so, because it's starting to seem to
me that you don't like other peoples' advice or suggestions, or have
any appreciation for any effort on anyone elses' part. |
Hey calm down...
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01.08.2006 06:39 |
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Originally posted by KuKulzA
TID wasn't posting extremely relevant ideas on their own... however...
though I realize that not everyone wants to and no one is SUPPOSED to
be creative and recptive, I think you can take TID's only semi-relevent
suggestions and adapt them into relevent ideas?? just being diplomatic
and open... that's the way to be and you prevent getting yourself and
others angry...
now I am no moral judge or anything, but I think that is the best method to get most ideas and keep everything alright
your commentary to him however is exactly NOT going to calm him down...
and telling him to calm down afterwards... it's not great.... be
diplomatic... I dunno how to say it.. |
I'm with Kukulza on this one.
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01.08.2006 06:43 |
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TheImperialDragon
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Originally posted by KuKulzA
TID wasn't posting extremely relevant ideas on their own... however...
though I realize that not everyone wants to and no one is SUPPOSED to
be creative and recptive, I think you can take TID's only semi-relevent
suggestions and adapt them into relevent ideas?? just being diplomatic
and open... that's the way to be and you prevent getting yourself and
others angry...
now I am no moral judge or anything, but I think that is the best method to get most ideas and keep everything alright |
I agree with KuKulzA that you should at least *try* to be a little more friendly towards people who are trying to help.
I'm not angry, just very irritated at TOYB. Not for the bad ideas
(which I admit could use some more work), but for all the indifferent
statements and ignorance of the trouble just about everyone else goes
to. Also, the want of revoking a lot of claims that other people made
isn't a very good sign in my eyes either, nor is the blunt "no" in the
above post, that sort of thing. I seldom hear anything constructive at
all from TOYB, and never anything positive either. Now, the least TOYB
could do is try to avoid insulting people (yes, I took "Plze stop it it
TID, I don't think you know what this thread is about because what you
are posting isn't contributing at all to this discussin." as an attack
against me) and try to just say why you do not think it is a good idea,
and possibly try to help it turn into a good idea.
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01.08.2006 06:49 |
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KuKulzA
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I feel like a good Buddhist now...
one day I almost kill someone in the fight, the next day I do some teaching on a forum 
anyhow... now that that's settled... back on topic...
how about a cave?
like there is a haunted cave... the reason it is haunted is because a
wayward shaman tried to live forever and bound his soul into the
surrounding rock (only happens in special caves) and then realizes that
though he lives forever his body is now the cave and his mortal body
lies dead. However if he can lure a willing mortal into his cave and
defeats him, he can regain his body...
this his cave is like a mouth, the icicles and stalamites/stalatites
serve as teeth and gnash at adventurers... and a frosty breath comes
out freezing the opening shut in a wall of glass once the adventurer is
lured within...
and then the real fight begins... 
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01.08.2006 13:34 |
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TheImperialDragon
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Just a quick addendum (I think?), I have no problem with critisism, but try and approach it in a less negative light.
So, KuKulzA, your idea is to have a living cave I guess?
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01.08.2006 17:33 |
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Greybeard
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Just a couple of (hopefully) positive suggestions.
KuKulzA, I like that cave idea. I'd suggest that you put in a new
thread and once Siegfried gets the heightmap finished, build it as a
quest.
And TID, you should probably do about the same. Start a book thread,
put in the creatures you feel should be in Skyrim and get the lore on
them from the Imperial Library. Once you have the text done, have
raggidman edit it and I'll put it ingame. |
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01.08.2006 17:54 |
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KuKulzA
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yeah you're right... the cave idea is best for an isolated and unique
incident in itself... I'll make a new topic once I get it all planned
out... with a book, a story, a quest, and a haunted/living cave 
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01.08.2006 20:41 |
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Ice Lich
Even though a normal Lich is immune to cold, this variation embraces
it. Their flesh can remain intact as long as they keep their bodies at
a set temperature, which is easy enough. They are nearly exactly the
same as a normal lich, except that they have a bonus when it comes to
Frost Magic as they can easily channel it through there bodies. Ice
Liches are found commonly around the edges of Skyrim up in the
mountains, although it is not that completly uncommon for one to be
seen in central Skyrim.
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11.08.2006 23:13 |
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Actually it's in lore
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12.08.2006 12:48 |
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
Actually it's in lore
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12.08.2006 12:53 |
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"The young men go out for weeks into the high peaks in the dead of
winter, hunting the ice wraiths that give them claim to full status as
citizens (a laudable practice that could serve as a model for the more
"civilized" regions of the Empire)." - From TIL
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TheImperialDragon
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Originally posted by Krisi-_
from a book you yourself say is outdated... 
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The Nords are very traditional, and I doubt they'd drop something like that.
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12.08.2006 22:14 |
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Thats why I added "..At least in the Northern Holds"
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Krisi-_
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I (myself) would prefer that you say it was done before and that very
traditional nords still do it.. and well they arnt really that
traditional.. they probly did that since there where many Ice wraith at
the time..
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