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Siegfried
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Well, its over for me as leader of Skyrim, its been fun guys. With my life the way it is now I just can't continue leading the mod project. A new leader is needed. I apologize, I likely should have stepped down sooner, because as of late I have been unable to fullfill my responsibilities as team leader, and the project has slowed because of that, notably I should have been able to contribute much more to Haerter Gap. Before that though I had begun to lose will, and my efficiency and work output had gone down though. Comparing me to other team leaders I did not put out nearly as much work as I should have.

After much thought and deliberation I have decided that I will step down from Skyrim for Oblivion Team Leader, and put in place a Dual Leadership System. Essentially there will be two team leaders who work in conjunction to lead the project, each being in charge of different fields. If team leader Bob is in charge of Texture Dev, team leader Steve cannot force Bob to change something in Texture Dev. Bob is in charge because he is better fit to lead Texture Dev than Steve, and so Steve cannot force him to do something. If Steve feels strongly enough on the matter, he can bring it to the core, a vote will be held, and the Core can decide that Bob must do as Steve says in that select instance. There will still be moderators and heads of Dev on those boards, but a team leader being in charge of that Dev board means they have the final say in what happens there.

I make this decision for dual-leadership because if you remember I said I was worn down/losing efficiency early in this post. Part of it was because I had to try and manage what was going on every part of the forum, even if I had no clue how to texture. It was very overwhelming. With a dual-leadership system the project can have the work split between two leaders, allowing them to focus on areas they like most and are most talented at. Thus the risk of "burning out" a leader is greatly decreased, and leaders should stay on for longer periods of time. Such a system is possible, just look at Silgrad Tower, for a very long time it was led by Razorwing and Quentin Fortune, and it is what originally spawned this entire mod community. Dual-Leadership works, and is effective. I am confident that the future leaders of Skyrim are mature and skilled enough to effectively lead in such a system.

After looking at the Core Members and observing areas in which they are skilled in. I have come to the conclusion that should they wish to take on the responsibility, Psychotic and TOYB will succeed me. Psychotic can take charge of the Quest Dev, Visual Dev, and Art Dev Boards. That leaves the claims boards for TOYB to take charge of. The two-future leaders may decide who gets to be in charge of the Lit Dev Board and Sound Dev Board. Perhaps they should be Core-Managed?

The power transfer won't take place right away, probably not until the weekend, because there is a lot I have to get in line and organize to hand over to my succsesors. For example, the info for the webpage that we have access to for Skyrim, and a huge compilation of Lore and Ideas for Skyrim.

Also the team will use the Mainquest I write for Skyrim. I wish to leave behind that one mark on Skyrim. I spoke with the other team leaders to see if they thought that was unreasonable or not, and all agreed that I was entitled to do that. The latter part will be much less fleshed out than the first part, and will allow for plenty of creativity to the new team leaders in fleshing it out. Plus you will be in charge of the portrayal of the details, and of course if there are technical problems or if some other problem occurs I have no problem with changes to that.

The decisions for dual-leadership and the use of my Mainquest are final. Please don't argue with me about them.
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Uh Oh It's sad to see you go, Sieg. I wish you all the best in future endeavours at it would be awesome if you still contributed to the project. You've put a heap of effort into the project and you will be sorely missed...

I wish Psych and TOYB, if they accept it, luck in taking on leadership of the project.

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Thanks Smokindan, but this project would be nothing without you guys. The core has been pulling most of the weight lately. I'll still be around and post here on occasion. Some day I want to start contributing, but first I need to take a long break and get some free time on my hands. BTW Smokindan, would you be interested in taking over mayoring Riften? Also I think you'd make a great PR Man.

Also I'll give core members/leaders my I'm in case there is anything pressing that I need to be contacted about.

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I'm truly sorry to see you go Sieg, you've done an outstanding job with this leadership stuff and will be hard to replace. I wish you success in whatever endeavors you undertake in the future.

I believe I will be able to handle the one half of your job I've been so kindly offered, and will put as much time and effort as real life allows me into it. I hope TOYB will accept his new position too because he is as qualified as he is dedicated to this project.

This team has a core made up of supremely talented people without who this project would be impossible to manage, I hope they will continue to help the development of this project for a long long time.

Also I can see no one better then Smokidan for the head of PR and would be very glad if he accepts the position.

Again Sieg, I wish you all the best and I hope that you will be able to visit us every once in a while.
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Thnk you, I will gratefully take up the position.

Also could you plz either Email me or PM me things that you have left halfway completed and such so I may pick them up and continue where you left off.

Things that I will accomplish in the next few weeks:
Sort out the deal with Windhelm.
Get the Solstheim claim boards up and running.
Sort out the busseiness with the Height map.
Sort out a full website.
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Yes you mentioned that you'll fill us in on the details, so it would be great if you could email me all the stuff that need to be completed as well.
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Psychotic do you think that you could take over the progress of the Resource file, as you are the one that is going to be incharge of the visual development and also you are the biggset contributer to it, so it would make sense.

Edit: I also think that Smokindan should be the Quest Dev along with me, as Smokindan is are main quest maker and knows his stuff and I am already incharge of three questlines + I have designed nearly all of the Haerter's Gap quests.

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Psychotic do you think that you could take over the progress of the Resource file, as you are the one that is going to be incharge of the visual development and also you are the biggset contributer to it, so it would make sense.

Sure. Is the resource master that is currently released the most up to date version?
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You'll probably have to get the most up-to-date version off Sieg, also so my Edit doesn't go unnoticed,
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I also think that Smokindan should be the Quest Dev along with me, as Smokindan is are main quest maker and knows his stuff and I am already incharge of three questlines + I have designed nearly all of the Haerter's Gap quests.

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You'll probably have to get the most up-to-date version off Sieg, also so my Edit doesn't go unnoticed,
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I also think that Smokindan should be the Quest Dev along with me, as Smokindan is are main quest maker and knows his stuff and I am already incharge of three questlines + I have designed nearly all of the Haerter's Gap quests.

If Smokindan is ok with it and Siegfried is ok with it, then I'm ok with it. =)
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I have just PMed Razorwing over the matter of Windhelm. Once I have sorted out this matter I will get the Solstheim claim boards up.
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I'd love to be our PR man and Quest Dev is fine as well, though some more people making quests would be great (GB said he can make them but he wants HG out of the way first.)

I don't think I'll take on the mantle of Riften Mayor as RL and two jobs is probably all I can handle at the moment.

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I'm going to take a few quest tutorials once HG is out of the way so you won't be the only one slugging at it Wink :D
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Very sad to see you go Siegfried, you and I are the only two left since the "old age" Wink . I respect your decision though offcourse, and I hope you stay on the project in the future.

The dual leadership thingy-ma-bob seems a very good solution to me!!!
I have full confidence in TOYB and Psychotic to do the job!!

All luck to you Siegfried, and thankyou for the time you pulled this project along!! You did an awesome job!!
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I have to go out of town unexpectedly for memorial day weekend, so this should be a great oppurtunity for TOYB and Psychotic to get used to running the team. I'll be back later on Sunday, and I'll try to finish everything of the power switch wrapped up shortly after that.
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I figure this is as good a place as any to post this, since I didn't want to create a whole new thread about it. Basically though I'll be on a bit of a hiatus until November sometime, I'm just too busy with Sports, School, Student Gov, Clubs, and friends to be able to properly contribute at the moment-- that and the fact that I've slipped into the terrible habit of saying I'll do things, starting them, and then never getting around to finishing them. I just need to step back and take a break-- I'll still post on occasion, and probably come back more fully later in the year, and maybe contribute the odd-job on occasion, but for the most part I won't be doing anything productive. It's probably best to hand-over my claims and jobs to others if you're trying to get a fall release of the Rift, so that I don't slow you guys down with not having my claims done. Also if someone thinks they're up to completing the Mainquest, I can hand that over to whoever, as I really haven't done anything worthwile on it.
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Well, as long as you're not permanantly leaving it's not all so glum lol. Just popping in from time to time is good, your insight is always valuable!

Just out of interest, what's the status of Liquid Cheese, Sulan, and TOYB? With you now in a state of semi-Skyrimness, that leaves only Alasdair, Psychotic, Smokindan and the newly added ME as permanant contributers as far as I can see. I'm finding myself diversifying a bit actually though, with this retexturing I'm getting into lol.

Anyways good luck with whatever you're up to from now til whenever!
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Hmmm, this is something I've been putting off for too long. I feel its best that I resign from the Skyrim for Oblivion core. I haven't been living up to the responsibilities of a core member, frankly I haven't done anything for Skyrim period in 4 months. I just feel that if I'm not going to be able to live up to the obligations of the core, its best if I resign.

This isn't me saying I'm quitting Skyrim or anything, I'll still be around. I'm in the process of learning to texture right now. I've completed a recolor of Cheydinhal, and I'll release that in the near future. Hopefully I'll be able to create some Skyrim specific weapons soon, or come up with all new textures for the Rift so we don't have to use those damned Bruma textures anymore.
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That's ok, I hope to see some nice new textures soon. :)

Have you PM'd Razorwing about this or do you want me to do that?
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I haven't as of yet, I can do it if you would like, or you can yourself. I don't know, your call.
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I'll PM Razorwing, I assume you want to remain a member of the outer core? (even though nothing happens there :) )
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No thanks, I can do what I need just as well without any kind of Core Access.
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