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Interior Model: Ice Cave Tileset
Description: You have freedom to do what you want.

1. To claim this location, please post a reply saying so. It's not granted until The Old Ye Bard ok's it, which he/I usually do.

2. To mod a claim, start a new .esp dependant on oblivion.esm and the most recent version of the Skyrim Resource File. Mod the location at your discretion and free time, within reason. You don't have to, and can't, hook it up to the exterior - that's done by The Old Ye Bard after merging. Make sure to include a pathgrid.

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May I claim this as my first skyrim claim?
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May I claim this as my first skyrim claim?

Welcome to Skyrim for Oblivion norin! Jump

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Make sure you have the latest resource master.
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Warning: super nooby question

It says to use the ice cave tileset. Since I'm new to this mod I'm not sure how the naming convention is working. What is the prefex on that particular tileset?

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Never mind, I figured it out, I hadn't downloaded the most recent file.

Another question I had, is there any specific needs this dongeon needs to fufill, and am I allowed to put quests or NPC's in the dongeon?

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no npcs, no creatures, and no quests.
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OK, thank you.
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*Edited by TOYB because what Phychotic wrote isn't correct, and would just confuse you*

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OK a couple more nooby questions. If I want to create an item (in this case a book) am I allowed to do this? Also, am I allowed to create a dead body of an adventuer, I know I'm not allowed to create NPC's or anything, but this kindof goes along with the theme of the cave. And finally, when it comes time to do populating (with baddies), do I just tell you what I want and you add it for me, or will I be able to do it myself?
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*Edited by TOYB because what Phychotic wrote isn't correct, and would just confuse you*

WHAT!? How is that not correct? Don't edit my post just because you can, if you want to correct me then post a reply and do so.

norin: I will let TOYB answer, after all I wouldn't want to "confuse" you.
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To create a new item you must use the naming conventions, and you must tell us what it is first. You may create dead people. and finally, all "Baddies" will be populated into the cave when they are in the leveled lists and/or are made. However this is most likely going to be done by someone else, so no need to worry. However you still must include a pathgrid.
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all "Baddies" will be populated into the cave when they are in the leveled lists and/or are made. However this is most likely going to be done by someone else, so no need to worry. However you still must include a pathgrid.

Didn't I mention that in the post you edited?
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OK, thanks for the answers. I intend to include a small book in the cave. And I will have some screenshots soon.
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all "Baddies" will be populated into the cave when they are in the leveled lists and/or are made. However this is most likely going to be done by someone else, so no need to worry. However you still must include a pathgrid.

Didn't I mention that in the post you edited?


nope Wink
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nope Wink

I believe I said that only placeholder creatures can be placed until a standardized pack of creatures (leveled list) is made.
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nope Wink

I believe I said that only placeholder creatures can be placed until a standardized pack of creatures (leveled list) is made.


Yeah "Place holders" they shouldn't be used, as they can create problems with claims later on.
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Yeah "Place holders" they shouldn't be used, as they can create problems with claims later on.

And what kind of problems would that be?
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Yeah "Place holders" they shouldn't be used, as they can create problems with claims later on.

And what kind of problems would that be?


Forgetting to swap them with the proper ones, etc.
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Forgetting to swap them with the proper ones, etc.

How could that happen if every int is reviewed at the end? Placeholders are good for testing purposes.
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What's wrong with placeholders? If someone forgets to replace them then just tell them to go back and put actual creatures in...

As long as they don't corrupt the .esp or something then that's fine.

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It doesn't really matter Pyschotic as my word over rides yours anyway, according to the rules that Siegfried left in place Wink
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anyway. I'm to lazy to take a screen shot right now but here is the esp. Right now it's fairly empty, but I would like some cretiques. Bear in mind that this is my first dongeon, but not my first interior (i've done some houses and stuff like that). be harsh, but nice. Oh, and the cell name is "novarstaadcaves", that will make it easy to find.

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A few criticisms from me, firstly the cave is too small, add a few rooms coming of the main tunnel to make it slighty bigger. My only other major critcism would be the lighting, here are a few screenshots to show what I mean:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b189/T...Oblivion121.jpg
This screenshot probably isn't the best one to show exactly what I mean, but basically you have 0 ambient lighting and lots of small lights which give the cave a rather un-natural look

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b189/T...Oblivion123.jpg
Here I have removed some of the lights and given the cave some ambient lighting, for ice cave lighting I like the ARBlueAmb lights as it gives an icy blue feel, note the glowing wisp stalks; try to give as much light as possible a source.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b189/T...Oblivion118.jpg
There should be light shining though this doorway like so:
(bethesda do this with all their caves)
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b189/T...Oblivion124.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b189/T...Oblivion120.jpg
Use the fires in the lighting section. as they actually produce light. Also smoke should really only be used outdoors (else the cave would fill up with smoke Wink )
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b189/T...Oblivion125.jpg

Oh and the cave name should start with 1SKxx, like so: 1SKxxNOVarstaadCaves and I attached the modified version I made incase you want to take a look at the changes I made in more detail.

Other than that it's pretty good, just improve the lighting and a make it bigger and you will have a quality cave. Good job!

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It doesn't really matter Pyschotic as my word over rides yours anyway, according to the Rulz that Sieg left in place Wink


That is awful reasoning.
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It doesn't really matter Pyschotic as my word over rides yours anyway, according to the Rulz that Sieg left in place Wink


That is awful reasoning.

Tell me about it! :D

But no worries, it has been settled (sort of).
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Good to hear it, the last thing we need is more of the core leaving.

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:lmao: , I sense a power struggle here. The 14 year old doesnt wanna lose power :D
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:lmao: , I sense a power struggle here. The 14 year old doesnt wanna lose power :D

Noooo, the throne is mine! :lmao:
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Stop harassing the 14 year old xD. Give him his lollypop back!

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Stop harassing the 14 year old xD. Give him his lollypop back!

You might be overdoing it a bit there. Myself and TOYB don't always agree, but we have an understanding (I think :D ).
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LoL, just playing around man
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LoL, just playing around man

I know, I'm just trying to keep it civil. Yes
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Wow, my thread just turned into one of the biggest arguments I've seen here yet. Anyway, back to Alasdair's critique of my work so far. I know about the lighting, that's my biggest problem when it comes to making a good doengen. Thanks for the suggestions in that area. And thanks for pointing out what you said about the smoke. I'll take a look at what you did, and I'll work on expanding the cave. Thanks.
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Its also good to put fog on with values of roughly this:

R = 23
G = 28
B = 33

Near = 0
Far = 3500
Clip Dist = 3500
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Its also good to put fog on with values of roughly this:

R = 23
G = 28
B = 33

Near = 0
Far = 3500
Clip Dist = 3500

True, but remember that ice caves should have less fog since they are not like normal caves and do not contain much dust (if any). The fog can be used to make the cave look darker, but it shouldn't look dusty.
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Thats why its a mild kind of blueish fog, it looks nice. But maybe just increase the distance to 4000 if its too much
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This hasn't been worked on in a while, should it be revoked?
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Since norin hasn't been around the forums in a long time the cave can be opened for claiming again. The person who claims it can finish norin's cave or start from scratch.
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Why don't you claim it Psychotic, you haven't done any Interior work for awhile now.
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Why don't you claim it Psychotic, you haven't done any Interior work for awhile now.

I'll claim another one because I want to start from scratch and because someone may want to pick this one up from where norin left of.
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