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http://til.gamingsource.net/maps/small_ingame_bloodmoon.jpg
http://www.wotl.ru/morrowind/m/Rsolstheim.jpg

I was trying to familiarize myself with the CS heightmap editor and I decided to try to make solstheim, turned out pretty well I reckon. If you want me to keep working on it I can...

Edit: The bottom bit is slightly wrong on the screenshot I posted, it looks more correctly in-proportion now.

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YOU ARE A GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Could you finish it off the Height Map? Don't worry about randomly generating the flora, etc because I'll do that by hand...


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It's quite a bit bigger than the Solstheim in Morrowind (1 whole quad to be precise)

The region editor is dead impressive too. I would recomend using it to generate basic flora then detailing by hand, that would get you the best mix of quality and originality.

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It's quite a bit bigger than the Solstheim in Morrowind (1 whole quad to be precise)

The region editor is dead impressive too. I would recomend using it to generate basic flora then detailing by hand, that would get you the best mix of quality and originality.


[1] What scale is it then?

[2] I guess that would be the way to go.
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4 quads actually... maybe... which would be 64x64 cells.

It's one full height map window basically.
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Excellent work Alasdair, aren't Oblivion cells a 4th of the size of a Morrowind cell? So you'll need to take that into account with the scale.
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4 quads actually... maybe... which would be 64x64 cells.

It's one full height map window basically.


Well the best scale will probably be 1.5 the size of OB's Scale like we are making the rest of Skyrim in (Not 1.5 the size of Cyrodiil to be clear).
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The most accurate measure of scale I can give you is to say that you could sink the titanic in lake fjalding. I'd estimate it to be about 4x the size it was in morrowind.
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The most accurate measure of scale I can give you is to say that you could sink the titanic in lake fjalding. I'd estimate it to be about 4x the size it was in Morrowind.


To big, way to big. Try making it to the 1.5, or as close as you can get it...
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Without distant LOD it's really hard to tell though, I'll try to generate some.
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Without distant LOD it's really hard to tell though, I'll try to generate some.


An easy way to exactly check would be to time how long it takes you to walk the length of the Island in TES III then get the time it takes to walk the length of your new Solstheim, then compare the two.
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well, after comparing it to Tamriel in the heightmap editor I can safely say it is way too big, it would dwarf Vvardenfell when put on Oblivion's scale :lmao: .

back to the drawing board Wink

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Do you have enough knowledge to make it to a 1.5 scale now?
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It fits into one quad now.
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Okay, that's about the right scale then.

So when can I expect a version that I can start to detail by hand? Wink
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I'd say about a week or two at the most, I want to get this perfect.
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I'd say about a week or two at the most, I want to get this perfect.


Okay cool, if you can get this done soon I'll be able to do some detailing, merge some of the already made dungeons and we should be able to make a public release in about a month Dancing Banana
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Awesome!! You are indeed a god Alasdair!! Yes
And all of you are amazing as well!!! Good job!
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Still needs quite a bit of work, but it's getting there.
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Very nice Good job!

When generating the flora, etc as I remember only pine grew on the island, and that you won't be able to generate the rocks as they need new models (Ofcourse greybeard might be able to quickly make some if he has some free time).

With the amount of progress your making I suspect we will have something to work with by the end of the week Wink

Also if your up to it after your done with Solstheim you could take the work Grey Wizard has already done on Skyrim and finish it off, because your a lot faster than him Wink
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Very nice Good job!

When generating the flora, etc as I remember only pine grew on the island, and that you won't be able to generate the rocks as they need new models (Ofcourse greybeard might be able to quickly make some if he has some free time).

With the amount of progress your making I suspect we will have something to work with by the end of the week Wink

Also if your up to it after your done with Solstheim you could take the work Grey Wizard has already done on Skyrim and finish it off, because your a lot faster than him Wink


Yeah that?d be good I believe! It seems Skyrims terrain has allmost stoped dead, and I think it might bring some new motivation and spirit to the team if we got a height map...

Looking very nice there Alasdair!! I certainly recognise myself :D
Only pine grew there I believe too, but some "scant" bushes and occasional poor, knotty and twisted excuse for a leafless tree should be seen also me thinks..
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Very nice Good job!

You won't be able to generate the rocks as they need new models (Ofcourse greybeard might be able to quickly make some if he has some free time).


Interesting commment - time is never "free." Wink But yeah, give me some parameters (sizes, textures/colors) and I should be able to accommodate you.
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Very nice Good job!

When generating the flora, etc as I remember only pine grew on the island, and that you won't be able to generate the rocks as they need new models (Ofcourse greybeard might be able to quickly make some if he has some free time).

With the amount of progress your making I suspect we will have something to work with by the end of the week Wink

Also if your up to it after your done with Solstheim you could take the work Grey Wizard has already done on Skyrim and finish it off, because your a lot faster than him Wink


Yeah that?d be good I believe! It seems Skyrims terrain has allmost stoped dead, and I think it might bring some new motivation and spirit to the team if we got a height map...

Looking very nice there Alasdair!! I certainly recognise myself :D
Only pine grew there I believe too, but some "scant" bushes and occasional poor, knotty and twisted excuse for a leafless tree should be seen also me thinks..


Towards the north there will most likely be a lot of leafless trees, frozen and barren. Greybeard has some skill with Speed Tree, maybe he could rusle something up...

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Interesting commment - time is never "free." But yeah, give me some parameters (sizes, textures/colors) and I should be able to accommodate you.


Dark looking rocks, smooth and tall (like meniors(sp)), like the ones in BM.

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I actually managed to get it working in game pretty much error free :D Still needs quite a bit more work, but the size is pretty near perfect Rocking Banana

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Auseume, and It'll look much better once it has trees, a little more detailed, and a better looking LOD (not purple Wink ).
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Could you make the Moesring Mountains bigger? Since mountains in Oblivion are considerably larger than Morrowind's "mountains".
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Could you make the Moesring Mountains bigger? Since mountains in Oblivion are considerably larger than Morrowind's "mountains".


It's differnt though because the're not a mountain range, they are just three to five peaks, most being seperated.

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Alasdair...


Amazing work! Applause

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Could you make the Moesring Mountains bigger? Since mountains in Oblivion are considerably larger than Morrowind's "mountains".

I second that. Bigger, but not by much.
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Nicely done, Alasdair!

Keep up the excellent work :D

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Left: a grid showing the cell locations in solstheim.
Right: pretty much the final heightmap, anything more will just be tweaking this one a bit.


Edit 2006.12.09 14:31:
Map showing areas of solstheim:


Edit 2006.12.09 20:12:
I just finished of the Isinfier plains and I must say they are looking rather nice. I need new icy rocks for the areas north of the Moesring Mountains and the remnants of the Mortag Glacier but the Jerall snowy rocks worked well here I reckon.
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Beautiful.
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I shall probably start a thread in the main forum so everyone can see this, I've got a few screens of the Hirstaang forest and I've properly generated LOD for half of solstheim (no more purple! w00t!)
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I shall probably start a thread in the main forum so everyone can see this, I've got a few screens of the Hirstaang forest and I've properly generated LOD for half of solstheim (no more purple! w00t!)

Sure go ahead, it will certainly raise morale. Yes
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Nice!!! It looks great!! Good job!
But is the vegetation supposed to be that developed? I can?t really remember from bloodmoon...

Edit: Yeah I think so too Psych!! It?s very motivating indeed!!

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Simply beautiful! Good job!

Since I'm doing rocks today, I'll add icy ones to the list. Do you want new meshes, or just use an ice texture instead of snow on the Jerall ones?
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Both would be nice, some big spiky spires of ice would be awesome as well as plain re-textures. Also we'll need something(s) to represent what's left of the Mortrag Glacier.
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Why not stick transparent ice textures on Oblivion Rocks?
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Good Idea, but we'll still need something for the Mortrag glacier, The Oblivion talon rocks would be perfect for icy rocks Good job!

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Wasn't Mortrag a bunch of rubble after the end of Bloodmoon? Why not just use LOTS of the retextured Oblivion Rocks? Some are really big.

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Originally posted by Alasdair
The Oblivion talon rocks would be perfect for icy rocks Good job!


Good choice! (that's what I'm modifying already :) )
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