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“The Blood Moon will rise again…” -Hircine to the Nerevarine-

After the events of the Blood Moon, six years after its rise, much has changed in the lands of Solstheim, Raven Rock has collapsed under economical pressure and the Nords of Winterhold have invaded. However the old ways and traditions of the Skaal People have not changed, they remain strong as does the wolf still howl at the moon and catch it’s prey.

In Thirsk the Nords from Winterhold are welcomed, as even before the invasion they traded with them and were on good terms. However this is not the true with the Skaal, they fear that the Nords of Winterhold are corrupted and that they have broken the fine balance of Nature, to the extent that they have hunted the Horker to near-extinction with only rare sightings of the creatures at best now, this brake in the balance of nature has caused the Skaal to loose some of their power of the world around them, powerless to stop the evil in their lands.

PART ONE

The first Main Quest begins with the PC approaching the Skaal shaman after hearing rumours from the villagers of the Skaal Village that he was getting exceptionally anxious about the happenings of the Island.

You talk to the Shaman and he says that the essence of Solstheim is beginning to fade because the balance has been broken. He says that because you are an outsider and have not been drained of your spirit like the Skaal people have, you must visit each of the sacred stones on the Island and cleanse them. Once you have done this you would have proved your faith to the Skaal and you would of taken the first steeps to undoing the damage the Nords have done.

Beast Stone
Outsiders visiting from Cyrodiil have caged the good beast, as a pet for the people of Thirsk. It must be freed so that the Beasts of the Island may once again run free without fear of torment and capture.

Water Stone
The Nords of Winterhold came and hunted the Horkers, indiscriminately killing them until they had all come to extinction on the Island of Solstheim. They even killed the Black Horker; you must go to the Nord camp near the old Horker colony and steal back the pelt of the Black Horker.

Earth Stone
You must go kill the Greedy Man’s Hunter who has eaten the song of the Earth in the Caves of Hidden Music. Then return back to the Earth Stone.

Wind Stone
The Winds of Solstheim have gone, the Nords of Winterhold believe it to be the wrath of Kyne because they did not bless her before crossing the seas to Solstheim. The Greedy man has stolen the winds, and has put each of the winds across the Island. They all must be recovered for the seas of Solstheim to be sailable again.

Sun Stone
The power of the Sun has once again been drained, you are needed to go and free it from the Halls of Penumbra where the Greedy Man has gotten the Grahl to guard the passages.

PART TWO

Once comments have been made and changes have been made to part one I'll post the second part...

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It's strange that everyone bugged me about getting this done, then when I show you some of it nobody posts...
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I´m not included in everyone, and I did´nt finnish Bloodmoon so I don´t know what to think really... But it sounds cool! Good job!

Edit: Oh I do think though, that perhaps you´d have to do something to get trusted by the Skaal, since you´re an outsider just like the Winterhold Nords.. Or perhaps they are very desperate? I dunno but there should be some matters of trust maybe...

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I´m not included in everyone, and I did´nt finnish Bloodmoon so I don´t know what to think really... But it sounds cool! Good job!

Edit: Oh I do think though, that perhaps you´d have to do something to get trusted by the Skaal, since you´re an outsider just like the Winterhold Nords.. Or perhaps they are very desperate? I dunno but there should be some matters of trust maybe...


Those first missions are tests of faith and loyality to the Skaal, the next part will be the test of strength. Also they are very desperate, being so close ot the land when the land suffers so do they, making life nearly unbearible in this case.
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Those first missions are tests of faith and loyality to the Skaal, the next part will be the test of strength. Also they are very desperate, being so close ot the land when the land suffers so do they, making life nearly unbearible in this case.


I see, cool!! I read it all again two times :) and I can see the individual missions being very interesting Yes
I was wondering, perhaps a stupid question, about the windstone and making the seas sailable again: If they were´nt sailable before, how did the PC get there from cyrodiil? Or is the "unsailable seas" more of a symbolic thing?
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I was wondering, perhaps a stupid question, about the windstone and making the seas sailable again: If they were´nt sailable before, how did the PC get there from cyrodiil? Or is the "unsailable seas" more of a symbolic thing?

...and also what will the PC have to do to fix the situation?
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I was wondering, perhaps a stupid question, about the windstone and making the seas sailable again: If they were´nt sailable before, how did the PC get there from cyrodiil? Or is the "unsailable seas" more of a symbolic thing?

...and also what will the PC have to do to fix the situation?


I've already included that in the questline, he just has to recover each Wind (North, South, etc) then return to the Wind Stone.
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Uhm recover is a very generic word. So like put them in a bag??

Edit: Oh and I should add: Tongue
Edit2: Or should the winds just be released from the places the greedyman put them perhaps?

btw who is the "greedy man" ? What interest does he have in screwing the balance of nature? I´ve a hard time seeing the meaning of this stuff when I can´t understand the agenda of evil...

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Uhm recover is a very generic word. So like put them in a bag??

Edit: Oh and I should add: Tongue


Free them from the Greedy man's bags. This is just a general idea of each quest, once the questline is finished smaller details like that will be refined and added to.
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I see!

Who is the greedy man btw, and whats his agenda? Why does he want to unbalance nature?
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I see!

Who is the greedy man btw, and whats his agenda? Why does he want to unbalance nature?


He is the negative diety in the Skaal relegion, the positive being the All Maker. There is thread in the Lore Section about pantheons, at the top is the Skaal one.
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What about the other question Sulan asked, how exactly did the player get to Solstheim if the seas around it are "unsailable" (because of there being no wind and all)?
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It seems almost the same as in Bloodmoon. Does the Bloodmoon really need to rise again, why not have a unique main quest? And having the greedy man steal back the sun and the wind and all the other things, after you got it all back in Bloodmoon is just annoying, and makes the skaal seem lazy like they can't do anything for themselves, besides having the same quest as in Bloodmoon just seems repetitive.
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It seems almost the same as in Bloodmoon. Does the Bloodmoon really need to rise again, why not have a unique main quest? And having the greedy man steal back the sun and the wind and all the other things, after you got it all back in Bloodmoon is just annoying, and makes the skaal seem lazy like they can't do anything for themselves, besides having the same quest as in Bloodmoon just seems repetitive.


They do seem repeditive because it should be, these trips to the stones to cleanse them is ritualised. The Bloodmoon will rise, but no how you would expect it to. And the Skaal are lazy because their "power" as been drained because of how close they are to the land. Also I tired my hardest to make each quest differnt, but like the oringinal, if you can think up a quest that is like the oringinal, but unique then we will use it.

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What about the other question Sulan asked, how exactly did the player get to Solstheim if the seas around it are "unsailable" (because of there being no wind and all)?


The player will be able to sail there, but not leave until he has freed the winds.
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There is one problem with that theory....oars. Perhaps the seas get ice choked due to unseasonable weather and only until the sun stone's power is unleashed can one come home (as it melts the ice). Otherwise, I don't think anyone will buy being stuck on an island when they can just row to nearby Vvardenfell!

Also, isn't it supposed to be another age before the Bloodmoon can rise again...or is Hircine going to play on a technicality since the end of the Oblivion crisis dawns in a new age? :D

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There is one problem with that theory....oars. Perhaps the seas get ice choked due to unseasonable weather and only until the sun stone's power is unleashed can one come home (as it melts the ice). Otherwise, I don't think anyone will buy being stuck on an island when they can just row to nearby Vvardenfell!

Also, isn't it supposed to be another age before the Bloodmoon can rise again...or is Hircine going to play on a technicality since the end of the Oblivion crisis dawns in a new age? :D


Who said Hircine was going to make the Bloodmoon rise Wink

Also the winds push back all boats and ships, even rowboats.
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Also the winds push back all boats and ships, even rowboats.


Ahhh, I misunderstood...I thought it was a lack of winds causing all ships to becalmed...now I get it, winds pushing everyone back to shore. Makes sense :)

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Also the winds push back all boats and ships, even rowboats.

So if the wind is pushing people back from Solstheim's shores that would mean the wind is coming from the center of the island itself (improbable, but there's magic on Nirn so who knows). If the winds are blowing from the center of Solstheim and towards the shores of the island that would mean that the wind would be blowing in the right direction if you are trying to sail away from Solstheim... the wind would only stop you from sailing towards Solstheim, not away from it as well. Confused

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Who said Hircine was going to make the Bloodmoon rise Wink

So why is it rising? Wasn't the Bloodmoon a sing of Hircine's coming?

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Also the winds push back all boats and ships, even rowboats.

So if the wind is pushing people back from Solstheim's shores that would mean the wind is coming from the center of the island itself (improbable, but there's magic on Nirn so who knows). If the winds are blowing from the center of Solstheim and towards the shores of the island that would mean that the wind would be blowing in the right direction if you are trying to sail away from Solstheim... the wind would only stop you from sailing towards Solstheim, not away from it as well. Confused

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Who said Hircine was going to make the Bloodmoon rise Wink

So why is it rising? Wasn't the Bloodmoon a sing of Hircine's coming?

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:Bloodmoon Prophecy: "It is time we spoke of this. The legend tells of a time that occurs once in each era, when a demon god will walk the land in the company of his Hounds, creatures of terrible might. He is The Hunter, and his coming is preceded by three signs. I had prayed that I had misread the signs, misunderstood the prophecy, but I am sure it is not so."


The Bloodmoon is the final sign of Hircine, but what do you think would hapen if someone was to say, force the Bloodmoon to rise Chaos It's my little surprise in the main MQ Wink
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What about the winds?
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So if the wind is pushing people back from Solstheim's shores that would mean the wind is coming from the center of the island itself (improbable, but there's magic on Nirn so who knows). If the winds are blowing from the center of Solstheim and towards the shores of the island that would mean that the wind would be blowing in the right direction if you are trying to sail away from Solstheim... the wind would only stop you from sailing towards Solstheim, not away from it as well.

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What about the winds?
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So if the wind is pushing people back from Solstheim's shores that would mean the wind is coming from the center of the island itself (improbable, but there's magic on Nirn so who knows). If the winds are blowing from the center of Solstheim and towards the shores of the island that would mean that the wind would be blowing in the right direction if you are trying to sail away from Solstheim... the wind would only stop you from sailing towards Solstheim, not away from it as well.


The winds are being controlled by the Greedy man, he moves them as he pleases. So for all manner of speaking they could come from any direction.
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Wasn't there a tree stone?

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What about the winds?
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So if the wind is pushing people back from Solstheim's shores that would mean the wind is coming from the center of the island itself (improbable, but there's magic on Nirn so who knows). If the winds are blowing from the center of Solstheim and towards the shores of the island that would mean that the wind would be blowing in the right direction if you are trying to sail away from Solstheim... the wind would only stop you from sailing towards Solstheim, not away from it as well.


The winds are being controlled by the Greedy man, he moves them as he pleases. So for all manner of speaking they could come from any direction.

That Greedy Man is one greedy bastard! :D I imagine it would be a real pain to gather up all those winds after releasing them from the bag. Tongue
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So if the wind is pushing people back from Solstheim's shores that would mean the wind is coming from the center of the island itself (improbable, but there's magic on Nirn so who knows). If the winds are blowing from the center of Solstheim and towards the shores of the island that would mean that the wind would be blowing in the right direction if you are trying to sail away from Solstheim... the wind would only stop you from sailing towards Solstheim, not away from it as well.


The winds are being controlled by the Greedy man, he moves them as he pleases. So for all manner of speaking they could come from any direction.

That Greedy Man is one greedy bastard! :D I imagine it would be a real pain to gather up all those winds after releasing them from the bag. Tongue


That he is! Wink

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Wasn't there a tree stone?


I knew I had forgotten one! Prehaps it is defending the trees planted in the BM MQ from Rieklings wanting to chop them down.
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I knew I had forgotten one! Prehaps it is defending the trees planted in the BM MQ from Rieklings wanting to chop them down.

Why would Rieklings want to chop them down, they live in caves? Confused
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I knew I had forgotten one! Prehaps it is defending the trees planted in the BM MQ from Rieklings wanting to chop them down.

Why would Rieklings want to chop them down, they live in caves? Confused


No on Soltheim they live in castle karstaag, and have like two caves they occupy and that is only for breeding tusked bristle backs.

They could have many reasons for choping down the tree, and they have previously done the Greedy mans dirty work before (hunting down the "Good Beast").
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I knew I had forgotten one! Prehaps it is defending the trees planted in the BM MQ from Rieklings wanting to chop them down.

Why would Rieklings want to chop them down, they live in caves? Confused


No on Soltheim they live in castle karstaag, and have like two caves they occupy and that is only for breeding tusked bristle backs.

They could have many reasons for choping down the tree, and they have previously done the Greedy mans dirty work before (hunting down the "Good Beast").

My point was that they don't live in houses made from wood. Yes

Also since Karstaag (the giant) is now dead (killed by the Nerevarine) would the Rieklings still stay there?

Anyway I think we should come up with a more specific reason for the Rieklings' wood chopping spree.
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I knew I had forgotten one! Prehaps it is defending the trees planted in the BM MQ from Rieklings wanting to chop them down.

Why would Rieklings want to chop them down, they live in caves? Confused


No on Soltheim they live in castle karstaag, and have like two caves they occupy and that is only for breeding tusked bristle backs.

They could have many reasons for choping down the tree, and they have previously done the Greedy mans dirty work before (hunting down the "Good Beast").

My point was that they don't live in houses made from wood. Yes

Also since Karstaag (the giant) is now dead (killed by the Nerevarine) would the Rieklings still stay there?

Anyway I think we should come up with a more specific reason for the Rieklings' wood chopping spree.


The trees are symbolic of the land, are magical, relate to the last tree stone quest, all which the Greedy man is opposed to.

The Rieklings are just little henchmen.

Castle karstaag has a new house keeper, and he will be revieled when we get up to posting that part of he MQ (It's actually the next part Wink ), so you'll need to wait until then. But to be sure Rieklings still inhabit Castle Karstaag.
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Here is the next part:

Once you have finished them all you report back to the Shaman, who says he can feel natures balance returning to the Island. But now you must further prove your worth to the Skaal through the Test of Strength.

He says that you must go and defend Castle Karstaag from the onslaught of Grahls that are trying to get into the castle to eat the Rieklings inside. The reason why they need you to save the Rieklings is while they are treacherous and devious they are as much part of the balance of Solstheim as the Skaal are to the land.

You go to Castle Karstaag and start to fight the Grahl, when you are finished fighting them a load booming voice is heard (like that of a giant husky ape) and it says that it is thankful for killing the Grahl, and protecting it’s servants from their hungry mouths. It says that its name is Ghrathard and is what that it is what the native people call a “Frost Giant”, he continues to say that he came from a vast land north of this one by the large flow of ice. He took over the realm after one of his kin “Karstaag” was killed by a savage beast (Hinting at the Nerevarine).

He finishes with saying that while he will not attack you while you are on good terms with him, it does not mean that his servants won’t.

You now return to the Skaal Village to find that Rieklings have swarmed the village. Apparently Ghrathard used the Grahl attack as a diversion to attack the village.

You now clear out the village of Rieklings, the villagers have barred the doors, so most are still alive, some guards have died and the rest help you to clear out the village of Rieklings.

When all of the Rieklings are dead the doors become un-barred and you go and talk to the Shaman.

He says that Ghrathard is not of this land, and is breaking the balance. You must go and kill him before he does anything to permanent to the nature of Solstheim.

You go back to Castle Karstaag to fight Ghrathard, when you get there the entrance is blocked by a patrol of Riekling guards. Every now and then they leave their posts to check around the sides and back of the castle, so you can either sneak in or fight you way in.

When you get inside you can further elude Rieklings, but you must be careful because they wander the halls and could easily spot you. You can however just fight you way through.

1.Fighting your way though. If you decide to do this, you eventually get to the throne room where you meet Ghrathard, who asks why you are in here. You say that you are here to kill him because his Rieklings attacked the Skaal village (this will all need to be done via script and pop-up windows because we, unlike in Morrowind can’t talk to creatures via a dialogue window). He responds that it was not his work and that he does not like the taste of man-flesh. At this point you can either believe him or not. If you choose to believe him this leads to the third Questline, side A if not it leads to side B (you have to kill him before hand).

2.You sneak through the castle and find a way up above the throne room; it is a small area with some boulders next to you. You can activate the boulders, which fall and kill Ghrathard, or not. If you do, it kills him and this leads to Questline B, if not hen you go down into the throne room and you can believe him or not like in 1.

Third part of the Questline coming up (this has two sides).
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My point was that they don't live in houses made from wood. Yes

Also since Karstaag (the giant) is now dead (killed by the Nerevarine) would the Rieklings still stay there?

Anyway I think we should come up with a more specific reason for the Rieklings' wood chopping spree.


Rieklings might get cold too :D ...need to burn something. Either that or they are just being complete a**holes. Yes

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Please comment on what I have put up.
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The quest itself is good as far as quality goes, but here are my remarks:

- Fighting the Rieklings and another frost giant in Castle Karstaag is an event that is too similar to the one in BM where you fight Karstaag himself.

- The Skaal village getting attacked again (in BM it was by werewolves, now by Rieklings) is also a bit repetitive.

- The Skaal barring the doors instead of fighting the Rieklings and the player having to come to save them, once again, makes them look weak.
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The quest itself is good as far as quality goes, but here are my remarks:

- Fighting the Rieklings and another frost giant in Castle Karstaag is an event that is too similar to the one in BM where you fight Karstaag himself.

- The Skaal village getting attacked again (in BM it was by werewolves, now by Rieklings) is also a bit repetitive.

- The Skaal barring the doors instead of fighting the Rieklings and the player having to come to save them, once again, makes them look weak.


They are weak, you already have been told that.

Karstaag isn't the bad guy in BM, and you don't have to fight the Frost Giant in this questline, in the next part you can actually do a quest for him (if you side with him).
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They are weak, you already have been told that.

Well... that sux. Tongue It makes you wonder how they survived all this time without anyone to rescue them. It seems like the slightest disturbance to the balance of nature renders them incapable to defend themselves or even function normally.

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Karstaag isn't the bad guy in BM, and you don't have to fight the Frost Giant in this questline, in the next part you can actually do a quest for him (if you side with him).

It doesn't mater if Karstaag was the bad guy or not, the whole scene with the player going trough the castle killing Rieklings and confronting a giant is repetitive.

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A mini main quest could be rebuilding and uncorrupting Raven Rock. Say someone has taken over and the people there now live there in fear and povetry. He and his thugs have taken over everything and are making profits off the peoples suffering. They are funds to buy weapons and mercenaries to take over the whole of solstheim maybe?

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They are weak, you already have been told that.

Well... that sux. Tongue It makes you wonder how they survived all this time without anyone to rescue them. It seems like the slightest disturbance to the balance of nature renders them incapable to defend themselves or even function normally.

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Karstaag isn't the bad guy in BM, and you don't have to fight the Frost Giant in this questline, in the next part you can actually do a quest for him (if you side with him).

It doesn't mater if Karstaag was the bad guy or not, the whole scene with the player going trough the castle killing Rieklings and confronting a giant is repetitive.


You don't fight Karstaag in the castle.

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A mini main quest could be rebuilding and uncorrupting Raven Rock. Say someone has taken over and the people there now live there in fear and povetry. He and his thugs have taken over everything and are making profits off the peoples suffering. They are funds to buy weapons and mercenaries to take over the whole of solstheim maybe?


Sorry Ebony, Raven Rock already has another questline designed, it will be rebuilt, but not in that way. I've written a summary of it somewhere...
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You don't fight Karstaag in the castle.

But you do fight the Rieklings there.
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You don't fight Karstaag in the castle.

But you do fight the Rieklings there.


At one point or another you would have to fight Rieklings in the MQ, and like I said you don't have to fight Karstaag, also the next part will completly change or opinion a lot, so don't go on about it being repeditive Wink It's not.
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At one point or another you would have to fight Rieklings in the MQ, and like I said you don't have to fight Karstaag, also the next part will completly change or opinion a lot, so don't go on about it being repeditive Wink It's not.

I hope you are right... we'll see when you post the next part.
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Just wondering, but isn't this already a bit too early to kill the new frost ginat? I know you are proving your stremght to the skall, but I just feel that fighting this frost giant this early would be like fighting mehrunes dagon in the very early stages of the quest Confused

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