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| I was born in a little town on the north coast o' Skyrim called Dunbarrow.
Me mother was a wench and me father was a right bastard. The only thing
that either of 'em e'er did fer me was doin' me the favor of sellin' me
off to a sea cap'n when I were nine. That cap'n, he taught me e'ry
thing I'd e'er need to know about sailin', and a few things about the
rest too. |
This is from Cap'n Dugal's Journal, Part 1 (Dunbarrow Cove DLC). It
supports the sea culture that has been talked about for Northshore, and
it also puts a new Town in Skyrim (somewhere on the Northern Coastline,
most likely in Northshore).
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22.04.2007 06:11 |
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Originally posted by Richard
It may no longer exist though; like Farmantle Glens, the place
mentioned in Knightfall, or Mir Corrup, the place mentioned in some
opther books. That diary is hundreds of years old remember. |
But it's always nice to keep within as much lore as we can.
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22.04.2007 10:31 |
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Siegfried
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We'll probably have a couple of smaller settlements in Northshore, so might as well just call one Dunbarrow.
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22.04.2007 18:14 |
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Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim
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Originally posted by Siegfried
We'll probably have a couple of smaller settlements in Northshore, so might as well just call one Dunbarrow. |
True, but we also might consider this town as a candidate for
destruction by the Oblivion invasion. We might just make the charred
ruins of the place and say it was destroyed by the hordes of Oblivion
(we don't loose one of our current towns and we get to show that there
indeed was an Oblivion invasion in Skyrim).
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22.04.2007 21:07 |
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Richard
Chieftain of Skyrim
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23.04.2007 09:23 |
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Siegfried
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On the topic of Daedra-sacked towns, should I include one in the
Redwoods? And also are we just going to let the towns be destroyed if
the player enters Skyrim before they activate the Oblivion crisis? |
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23.04.2007 23:43 |
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Psychotic
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Having a few destroyed towns around Skyrim would be good, but as you
said it would be a problem if the player enters Skyrim before the OB
crisis starts.
Though now that I think of it if you go to Kvatch right away after
exiting the IC prison you still find it destroyed... it's like the
crisis starts when you encounter the destroyed city. Perhaps that's the
answer to our problem, if the player gets to one of the destroyed towns
he automatically activates the OB crisis (all the OB crisis NPC topics
and such become available). Basically we should replicate whatever
happens when you go to Kvatch for the first time (activate all the same
scripts/quests/topics/whatever) when you visit any of Skyrim's
destroyed towns for the first time.
Hope that made sense. 
Oh and I guess that's a yes, you can add a destroyed town to the Redwoods (nothing too big though). 
I was also wondering, should we "Kvatch" one of Skyrim's major
towns/cities? There is nothing in lore/rumors about a specific Skyrim
city being destroyed by the daedra, but it is mentioned that the old
Holds took the biggest hit from the invasion. Perhaps we should turn
the capitol of one of the Old Holds into a smoking ruin? Naturally I
have my reservations about this, but if we really don't want to loose
one of our big cities we can just make it like Vv is making Ald'ruhn,
destroyed but rebuilding. 
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24.04.2007 01:07 |
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Siegfried
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Well the old holds are Eastmarch, the Rift, the Pale, and Northshore
(or is it Whitehold). Riften is done, Northshore has an architecture
set in progress, and I doubt TOYB wants Windhelm sacked. I planned on
having Nimalten city partially destroyed from the Dremora Raiders, is
that good? |
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24.04.2007 01:53 |
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Originally posted by Siegfried
Well the old holds are Eastmarch, the Rift, the Pale, and Northshore
(or is it Whitehold). Riften is done, Northshore has an architecture
set in progress, and I doubt TOYB wants Windhelm sacked. I planned on
having Nimalten city partially destroyed from the Dremora Raiders, is
that good? |
Windhelm is too important Lore wise to be sacked, however we could sack
Falkreath as no one is working on it, and would be the most
imperialistic town anyway (so people wouldn't mind as much 
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24.04.2007 05:57 |
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Richard
Chieftain of Skyrim
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I dunno about total Kvatch style devastation =/
With Vv doing Ald-ruhn, we know 100% that it has been destroyed, but
the Skyrim rumours that we're going on aren't that specific.
Maybe someone should make a list of rumours and info about the Skyrim attacks?
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24.04.2007 08:04 |
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Maybe someone should make a list of rumours and info about the Skyrim attacks? |
There aren't that many actually. Someone did post all of them recently,
but the attacks on the old Holds is as specific as they get.
How about making the sacked city only partially destroyed... well it
was completely destroyed, but half of it has been rebuilt or something.
That way we don't have to loose a whole city.
Falkreath sounds alright, but I was mainly thinking of the old Hold
cities since what little bit of lore we have is pointing that way.
Perhaps we should ask someone at Beth what city they would like destroyed... just so we can make it lore friendly. 
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Skyrim Member: Which Skyrim city would you most like destroyed?
Pete Hines: All of them.
Skyrim Member: 
Oh and Falkreath is one of the Old Holds
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24.04.2007 14:08 |
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Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim
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24.04.2007 14:22 |
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
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Originally posted by Psychotic
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Originally posted by Richard
Maybe someone should make a list of rumours and info about the Skyrim attacks? |
There aren't that many actually. Someone did post all of them recently,
but the attacks on the old Holds is as specific as they get.
How about making the sacked city only partially destroyed... well it
was completely destroyed, but half of it has been rebuilt or something.
That way we don't have to loose a whole city.
Falkreath sounds alright, but I was mainly thinking of the old Hold
cities since what little bit of lore we have is pointing that way.
Perhaps we should ask someone at Beth what city they would like destroyed... just so we can make it lore friendly.
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Skyrim Member: Which Skyrim city would you most like destroyed?
Pete Hines: All of them.
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I'm sure the old Holds are the ones Sieg mentioned (Winterhold, Eastmarch, The Rift, and The Pale). |
Those are areas, and I don't think it likely that an an entire area
could be completly wrecked by the Daedra, and Sieg doesn't know what he
is talking about anyway
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24.04.2007 14:27 |
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Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
Those are areas, and I don't think it likely that an an entire area
could be completly wrecked by the Daedra, and Sieg doesn't know what he
is talking about anyway
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Well Holds ARE areas/territories. Falkreath is both a Hold and a major city, but I'm 99.9% sure it's not one of the old Holds.
Anyway I never said an entire Hold should be destroyed, just the capitol of one of the old Holds.
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24.04.2007 15:07 |
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Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
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Originally posted by Psychotic
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
Those are areas, and I don't think it likely that an an entire area
could be completly wrecked by the Daedra, and Sieg doesn't know what he
is talking about anyway
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Well Holds ARE areas/territories. Falkreath is both a Hold and a major city, but I'm 99.9% sure it's not one of the old Holds.
Anyway I never said an entire Hold should be destroyed, just the capitol of one of the old Holds. |
Falkreath is an Old Hold
Edit: And no one will be really disapointed if it goes down in flames,
because Falkreath isn't a hold that many people have much interest for. |
From the The Pocket Guide, First Edition:
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| The northern and western Holds -- Winterhold, Eastmarch, Rift, and the Pale, known collectively as the Old Holds [snap] |
http://til.gamingsource.net/pge/skyrim.shtml
So Falkreath is NOT one of the Old Holds.
There is as much interest in Falkreath as there is in Snowhawk or
Solitude... which is almost nothing. But that is only because we are
far away from starting work on those cities and no models have been
made for them as of yet.
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Lil' bit o' Lore
