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hmm... I might (before I go back to Black Marsh and Vvardenfell)

just a question, how will you guys manage to get the Sload to talk? will they be NPCs or specially made creatures or what? Confused Cause it would be nice to know how to allow the player to talk to creatures... like a drunken mudcrab... or Dreugh... or Daedra, etc.


We haven't really gone into this much(but it is certain they will be creatures, because of the skeleton issues with making it an Npc), but with the discussion that has taken place it is either going to be (or a mixture of):

* Using a totally scripted system, which would be cool, but would mean a little more work (however not as much as you might think).

* Using a "Slave" style of talking (E.g. a Sload brings around with them a "pet" slave, of which through telekenesis the Sload talk through the slave to the player. This would also be used as an excuse of how the Sload writes, which we have conflicting lore on).

* Using a system where an invisible Npc is placed where the Sload is, so that it zooms into the Sloads head, and the Dialogue is done normally. However there is several problems with this method, one being the lag if there is more than 3-4 Sloads that are set like this (in cities it is differnt because the Sloads probably wouldn't care to talk to the PC anyway) in one area, another being that the head in Dialogue wouldn't be animated.

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I see... perhaps all three can be used for flavor... I mean a few scripted ones... a few Sloads maybe will not speak or cannot speak Cyrodiilic and use a slave.... and I guess some will look ya in the eye and talk right?

I guess if Vvardenfell's gonna have a Drunken Mudcrab merchant we're gonna have to get clever
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An idea, perhaps?
What about Coral Golems created by the sload? Essentially it would be an atronach made of coral. There could even be different types, a regular Coral Golem, in vibrant colors to show that it's been newly made, and Ancient Coral Golem's (a unique creature, perhaps?), which are that ghostly white that's so prevelent in Thras.

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How about some sort of plagued Daedra/Humaoid for Namira's realm, and fighting it gives you a high risk of catching any random disease?

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That doesn't sound too unreasonable. I would also think that some sload worship (well, as much as the sload do) Namira, as they are fairly disgusting and vile.

Another golem idea I have is a sort of seaweed golem. It would pretty much be a giant-shaped ball of seaweed, and something a Novice could make.

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That doesn't sound too unreasonable. I would also think that some sload worship (well, as much as the sload do) Namira, as they are fairly disgusting and vile.

Another golem idea I have is a sort of seaweed golem. It would pretty much be a giant-shaped ball of seaweed, and something a Novice could make.


Well, actually they wouldn't worship her for thoses reasons, because I strongly doubt the sload think themselves "disgusting and vile", however they would fall in favor with Namira, as she would view them with kindness because of their phisical attributes.

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That doesn't sound too unreasonable. I would also think that some sload worship (well, as much as the sload do) Namira, as they are fairly disgusting and vile.

Another golem idea I have is a sort of seaweed golem. It would pretty much be a giant-shaped ball of seaweed, and something a Novice could make.


Well, actually they wouldn't worship her for thoses reasons, because I strongly doubt the sload think themselves "disgusting and vile", however they would fall in favor with Namira, as she would view them with kindness because of their phisical attributes.

That does sound a lot more plausible. It should definitely be included somehow.

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Another idea:

For Meridia's Realm while we're on it somewhat, how about different looking Will-o-the-wisps that each hit for a different effect. I'm pretty sure Meridia was the one with the special light stuff, so I think that would be pretty cool.

What would it be like if you walk into a room, and there's a red beam of light in the middle. You walk closer to that red light and all of a sudden a bunch of red clusters of light rush at you and hit you with fire damage. And in a different room there's a blue beam of light and out of it come a bunch of blue clusters of light that hit you with frost damage.

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Sounds like an Atronach birthsign's wildest dream. =)
I like it. As long as it doesn't get too repetitive, it seems like a great idea. Good job!

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Or, otherwise, when you fight the shadow beast in whatever dark room you're in, there are black ones that help it out and we only need to do those, so you'll eventually have a bunch of midget shadow beasts and dark little puffballs all trying to kill you.

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Do we have any concepts for the Shadow Beast?

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Do we have any concepts for the Shadow Beast?


We have what was featured in Shadowkey, which is exactly what these are. Screenies can be found on TIL's Shadowkey MQ storyline board.

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Ok Yes

Just checked it out. Is the Shadow Beast this Umbra'Keth person?

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Ok Yes

Just checked it out. Is the Shadow Beast this Umbra'Keth person?


No, he's like the biggest, baddest Shadow Beast, there is. Shadow Beasts are basically normal creatures, just shadowy forms of them, so I think we could edit normal creatures, change the textures, while adding some specialised particle effect.

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In that case we don't even need new creatures. We can just do a shader which will give it an overlay texture, kinda like how ghosts work, but it can be solid. It should be a unique looking creature though, I'd like to see that.

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nvm

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