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I thought we weren't going to bother with Mehrunes.. Reply to this Post Post Reply with Quote Edit/Delete Posts Report Post to a Moderator       IP Information Go to the top of this page
I mean, seeing how you go there a million times during the main quest, why should we do his realm too?
I'd like your opinions though. Do you think the player would enjoy going there one more time? Would it be worth it? It'd certainly be the easiest of all the realms.

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Hmmm, this plane is debatable. Although the only plane that the player goes to in vanilla Oblivion is Mehrunes', we can make the plane you visit him in this time be these twisted forests that were mentioned in lore, not the chain of islands in a sea of lava. Beth actually only did that to make it look like hell.

If we don't want to do it, we can just say that Mehrunes hates everyone on Nirn and is not letting anyone use the pillar of Thras to get there.

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Twisted forests? Now THAT would be interesting. We'd just have to make sure it isn't too much like Hircines realm.

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Naw, it's not gonna look anything like Hircine's Realm. I'm pretty sure that is supposed to be a pine forest like you'd find up north, filled with wild animals.

Here is how Mehrunes' realm was described in our favorite book The Doors of Oblivion. It is stated in the book as a confusion for another realm, but he described Mehrunes' realm in confusion.

'I am in a storm,' he told me as he entered the next realm. He described the landscape of dark twisted trees, howling spirits, and billowing mist, and I thought he might have entered the Deadlands of Mehrunes Dagon."

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Ooo, that sounds nice. Reminds me of that Unique Landscapes mod, the dark village one.

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That's a nightmare of V's realm.

If we do, do his realm, I suggest we actually make it on the mainland (with an inviso barrier to stop the player going to far, and put it in a valley, so we don't have to detail that much).

I mean, we could do something like "twisted forests", but we'd need to make the trees burnt and charred, or do something even more oringinal, and have something like have fire for leaves :D (the branches being twisted, with thorns, similar to the Daedric "claw" type things that are already present in his realm).

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Waht about flames on the tops of trees? And I suggest to use little fire stuff in the forest. AS I read it his realm is a twisted forest surrounden by smaller plains of fire.

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That's a nightmare of V's realm.

If we do, do his realm, I suggest we actually make it on the mainland (with an inviso barrier to stop the player going to far, and put it in a valley, so we don't have to detail that much).

I mean, we could do something like "twisted forests", but we'd need to make the trees burnt and charred, or do something even more oringinal, and have something like have fire for leaves :D (the branches being twisted, with thorns, similar to the Daedric "claw" type things that are already present in his realm).


I know that was a nightmare, but the person writing the book confused it for Mehrunes' realm until the scene changed. The trees I think we can manage if we can get someone here with a working copy of SpeedTree, but the fire for leaves is impossible unless we manually stick fire on them in the CS

I dunno, I read several things that describe Mehrunes' realm as supposed to be a dark, twisted forest.

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That's a nightmare of V's realm.

If we do, do his realm, I suggest we actually make it on the mainland (with an inviso barrier to stop the player going to far, and put it in a valley, so we don't have to detail that much).

I mean, we could do something like "twisted forests", but we'd need to make the trees burnt and charred, or do something even more oringinal, and have something like have fire for leaves :D (the branches being twisted, with thorns, similar to the Daedric "claw" type things that are already present in his realm).


I know that was a nightmare, but the person writing the book confused it for Mehrunes' realm until the scene changed. The trees I think we can manage if we can get someone here with a working copy of SpeedTree, but the fire for leaves is impossible unless we manually stick fire on them in the CS

I dunno, I read several things that describe Mehrunes' realm as supposed to be a dark, twisted forest.


This is the only time I've read it being "A dark twisted forest", and then it wasn't even Dagon's realm. Please post these other sources you have, because I've never even heard of them before.

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It's more actually like forum posts. If it was only one person who said it, I wouldn't beleive it. But I've seen a few posts here and there describing the twisted forests of Dagon, from people who look like they know what they're talking about. Mormacil may have a better idea than I do of a lorical reference.

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It's more actually like forum posts. If it was only one person who said it, I wouldn't beleive it. But I've seen a few posts here and there describing the twisted forests of Dagon, from people who look like they know what they're talking about. Mormacil may have a better idea than I do of a lorical reference.


Going on forum posts isn't very logical, I need some actual evidence, even if it comes from a secondary offical source (like a text from a Dev, outside of the game) to support this.

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His qoute is from a book from Oblivion that about a student writing how his master travelled to the realms of Oblivion for research and gets stuck in the library of Herma Mora.

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His qoute is from a book from Oblivion that about a student writing how his master travelled to the realms of Oblivion for research and gets stuck in the library of Herma Mora.


it's been posted, and isn't an acurte source.

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Mehrunes Dagon
The original book

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Thanks Mormacil

I knew it was true, I've heard it many many times before, mostly in complaints about how his plane of Oblivion ended up in a similar situation to the absence of jungle in Cyrodiil.

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But the jungle is removed I believe by one of the emperors as a reward for his man Tongue

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Mehrunes Dagon isn't a source, it's quoting the book!

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But it shows that at TIL they see this as how it is Wink

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But the jungle is removed I believe by one of the emperors as a reward for his man Tongue

Yay for the Imperial Retcon!

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But the jungle is removed I believe by one of the emperors as a reward for his man Tongue


Yeah, Talos the Many-Headed. But I always find it in a comment like "Why isn't Cyrodiil a jungle, and why isn't Dagon's plane a forest? You suck Beth!"

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