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Razorwing
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Leadership of the Valenwood mod

Seeing as the leaders haven't logged onto the forum for over a month, and seeing as this project had faded a bit even before then, the only conclusion is that it's been abandoned.

It would be pretty cool to see this mod revitalized, so if someone wants to pick up the reigns don't hesitate to say so.

I collapsed the subboards, moved the handful of threads in the subboards either to the main Valenwood board or to the appropriate Development boards, and added links at the top of the main board. I'm not at all saying that's the best way and that that's how it should be - certainly not, that's not my place to decide. But whomever the new leader turns out to be I imagine he would want to organize the types of boards here to his or her liking and the threads would have needed to be moved around anyway.

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22.06.2006 00:25

KuKulzA
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not applying for leadership....
but I think a leader should know that he.she should be able to spend time and effort... at least in getting the mod on its feet and able to run on its own for a little while...
since the beginning of Vvardenfell I have grown much busier and less often do I frequent the forums to post major stuff... but the beginning stage needs to be met... like an entrepreneur must have enough capital to make it good 1st

22.06.2006 04:44

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raggidman
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In the meantime I hope that interested modders will continue posting their ideas and concepts in the Valenwood Forum...the more content therer is (and the higher the quality) the better chance there is of attracting a competant and reliable Project Leader.

24.06.2006 13:44

TheImperialDragon
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Hmmm... I'm not volunteering, as I have my hands full at the moment with the Elsweyr project, but maybe Valenwood and Elsweyr can be built together, so that Elsweyr knows what to do for the borders of Valenwood, and Valenwood knows what to do for Elsweyr.

I like the idea of leading this at the same time as being an Elsweyr core member, but I don't think I could do that. I could be a TEMPORARY core member here and for Elsweyr though until this thing gets a good start, essentially being the link between Elsweyr and Valenwood.

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DarkAsmodeous
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I think a link may require a greater effort then oyu realize ID, while it would be awsome, I think we can manage withut it, especialy onsidering the state of valenwood.

26.06.2006 20:42

TheImperialDragon
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Well, I won't be able to do anything until there's a project leader, and it doesn't look like it'll be for a while. Anyway, I'm happy with just sticking to Elsweyr anyway.

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26.06.2006 22:04

DarkAsmodeous
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And we're happy to have you.

26.06.2006 22:05

TheImperialDragon
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And I'm happy with Elsweyr.

And I never said it wasn't hard work to be a core member, but sooner or later, Valenwood will need a team.

Maybe after Elsweyr, the Elsweyr team could start a SummerSet Isle mod?

I've always wanted to see the Summerset Isles, but I'm getting a little bit ahead of myself. It'd be good if someone started one though.

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26.06.2006 22:09

DarkAsmodeous
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Agreed, I love the altmer, but the end of this project is far off, who knows what things will be like then?

26.06.2006 22:43

KuKulzA
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how about the Elsewyr and Valenwood mods combine?
what if they combine but the factions and mainquests are for each team to decide, however there can be a large main-quest involving both provinces? what if they can be collectively nown as the TES4 Elsewyr-Valenwood mod, however their seperate departments are Valenwood Rise of the Precursor and The Elsewyr Confederacy?

26.06.2006 22:59

Siegfried
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Right now that could be a bit risky because Valenwood doesn't really have a team, and Eleswyr is still building up steam. It could end up that there is only one teams worth of people working on two team's worth of work.

26.06.2006 23:18

KuKulzA
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quote:

Originally posted by Siegfried
Right now that could be a bit risky because Valenwood doesn't really have a team, and Eleswyr is still building up steam. It could end up that there is only one teams worth of people working on two team's worth of work.

that is what I am definitely afraid of with respects with this mod...
Elsewyr is building itself up while Valenwod fell down...
it's like a sprinter who is building up speed stopping to pick up a fallen runner...

tough crowd...

27.06.2006 03:36

DarkAsmodeous
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I think that should the valenwood mod revive itself, we have a seperate worldspace that is common ground between the two, keeping em seperate while allowing joint efforts.

27.06.2006 03:58

X23
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It would be cool for the elsweyr team to do Summerset Isles after we're finished or almost finished with Elsweyr. I would like to do that since its one of the provinces I'm interested in.

That is a very long way off though. But I think that Valenwood should have its own leader and team.

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27.06.2006 04:02

DarkAsmodeous
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Agreed, I don't want us to have to carry two mods, which is the diirection I see this going.

27.06.2006 04:03

Siegfried
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Has anyone tried getting in touch with any of the old team members? Or maybe set up some kind of a thread on the official forums?

27.06.2006 04:23

Siegfried
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I asked the creator of the "Big Projects List" on the Official Forums to put Valenwood under his watch section with an advertisement that it is looking for a leader, so that might get someone's attention.

27.06.2006 18:08

KuKulzA
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quote:

Originally posted by Siegfried
I asked the creator of the "Big Projects List" on the Official Forums to put Valenwood under his watch section with an advertisement that it is looking for a leader, so that might get someone's attention.

good initiative Siegfried Good job!

27.06.2006 22:04

Siegfried
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quote:

Originally posted by KuKulzA

quote:

good initiative Siegfried Good job!

Here is the thread, check under the watch list section http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index...howtopic=473002 also I got in touch with demetrios13 and he gave the Beyond Cyrodiil mods their own category

28.06.2006 00:33

TheImperialDragon
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quote:

Originally posted by Siegfried

quote:

Originally posted by KuKulzA

quote:

good initiative Siegfried Good job!

Great work, Siegfried! Applause

This might attract a leader to Valenwood at last!

28.06.2006 00:47

Razorwing
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Nice initiative Siegfried!

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28.06.2006 10:22

DarkAsmodeous
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Agreed, I hope to see Valenwood ressurected.

29.06.2006 18:41

raggidman
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A single post could easily disappear in such a long thread. Might be useful if you can get him to post Valenwood as a project, with something like this:

quote:

Valenwood, Rise of the Precursor is a major mod initially planned to link specifically with or complement the Elseweyr Confederacy and to be compatible with the other Beyond Cyrodiil mods of course. Initial thinking was that there would be a 'live common border' between the two projects so that small wars and skirmishes between these two 'Ancient rivals'.

Like all Beyond Oblivion mods Valenwood has a Main Quest in planning, and room for hosts of minor quests solo or related to the doings of the Joinable Guilds, great cities and tiny forest communities, all that you might hope to find in a TES game that could be as big as Oblivion itself. You have heard rumours of the fate of the Moving City - now you have the chance to mod a moving Tree big enough to house the capital of the Wood Elves and decide how it will thrive or be destroyed. (Subject to the Lore natch!

)

But right now what Valenwood most needs is a Project Leader. Someone who can start with the simple basics and can put in long hours, and who will stick with it and actively recruit and work alongside everyone who wants to take part. If you have the essential idea of simple skills and the sheer determination to do it, then you will know if this can be you! This post would only be offered to people called Todd Howard if they are free of contractual obligations that would otherwise interfere with the job! Wink

30.06.2006 12:27

FLESH
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I love cities in trees. Infact even more than shady murky places (lets establish something, I really really really really love shady murky places). I think I would have the hours, BUT, I cannot moddel or texture or anything like that. I most definately would not be able to do this by myself. If someone is willing to help me out. Then I might do it, but after I get some claims done.

If you dont think I can do it I fully understand, the hours would be put in, but as I mentioned before, I don't have the skills needed in moddeling.

I don't want to see this die.

05.07.2006 23:11

DarkAsmodeous
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I think you would do a fine job, you don't need to tackle the entire thing by yourself, and if you want to learn to model, go ahead and do it. I think you are the first person to show interest in doing this, and if I had a say I'd give it to you. PM razorwing, and a question if you don't mind, why always so negative here? You re just as qualified to work with us as anyone.

05.07.2006 23:22

FLESH
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quote:

Originally posted by DarkAsmodeous
I think you would do a fine job, you don't need to tackle the entire thing by yourself, and if you want to learn to model, go ahead and do it. I think you are the first person to show interest in doing this, and if I had a say I'd give it to you. PM razorwing, and a question if you don't mind, why always so negative here? You re just as qualified to work with us as anyone.

I am not worth thats why Yes

. I will do it, only on one condition. NEVER LEAVE ME ALONE, sorry its just this phobia I have in real life. Don't leave me to do everything please. I will send razor a PM then.

05.07.2006 23:24

TheImperialDragon
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I could help you get this started, until you get a relyable team together, that way it would help the Elsweyr mod out too. Don't worry about not being able to model or texture; those do not affect leadership skills, and a leader is what this mod needs most.

I'd be able to help maybe with some lore and other random stuff (maybe textures, maybe modelling, maybe other misc stuff, etc...) to help get this off the ground. I won't have as much free time until Saturday... as I'm at a university right now (look at my location under where my would-be avatar is.)

05.07.2006 23:25

Siegfried
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Yeah, modeling and texturing is no big deal at all. I can't model or texture, and same goes for Kukulza, but both of us lead our mod projects. Being a leader means that your are hardworking, responsible, organized, and able to motivate people.

05.07.2006 23:44

TheImperialDragon
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And as for leaving you all alone, the odds of that happening are quite slim on this website. All the same, I will do what I can to help.

06.07.2006 00:01

raggidman
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I seem to have signed up for just about every mod, including this one, so whatever I see that I can contribute to here I will. If I could contribute more computer time (and had a comp that could cope with Oblivion) I could do more. As it is my speciality remains the written/typed word, and I will stick by you here as long as you keep faith with everyone (including yourself) and this mod.

It is a big job, so if you don't end up with the prize this time, do not worry as all the Beyond Cyrodiil/Silgrad Tower Associated Mods are huge, and need quality input, so any sensible project leader will be only too glad to have the services of competant people. These are not solo projects.

06.07.2006 00:40

KuKulzA
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quote:

Originally posted by raggidman
These are not solo projects.

not at all... we are making large landmasses... cultures... peoples... politics... all for the sake of fun and modding... damn we are losers... but hard working ones... Dancing Banana

yes, we should all lend a hand to other projects but do not forget your priorities...

unless you are like raggidman who basically is in literature and also helps bump ideas around and gives links to a Dance in the Fire... so he is a all around guy, not part of any one mod...
for me I am mostly for Vvar (I think you all knew already) but I try to help out around too... Yes

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06.07.2006 03:52

FLESH
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Ok guys while I was sleeping I came up with some Ideas. Since I can't draw a straight line for the life of me, I will try to find some pictures that best describe what I saw. I already know some sites that should have them so will come back when I found some.

06.07.2006 10:33

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