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The idea of this thread is to chat about various points of Green Pact Lore that come up, then, as appropriate, conclusions can be considered formally by the Core and transferred to the Green Pact Thread in the Lore Forum or applied wherever useful.

So here's are a couple of points to consider:

Bosmer and Poisons:
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Yer take on wood elves worries me:
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6. Poisoned arrows are another favourite of the wood elves, nightshade is particularly potent when mixed with other ingredients and applied to sharpened arrowheads.

Not entirely sure if Wood Elves can use vegetable-derived poisons? You may be correct, but I expect we will have to have a thread on the Pact, Poisons and other limitations. This Pact thing will require a LOT of work, very careful handling and flexibility!


Deadly Nightshade is a plant. You might transfer enough to an arrowhead by rubbing it (without causing damage) but...

We know Bosmer like hiding, but do they use poison?


Vegetarians and other preverts:
Do Bosmer who live in other areas of the Empire live by the Green Pact?
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Do Bosmer within Valenwood all obey the Green Pact? So are there Bosmer considered criminals by Bosmer? = maybe a renegade faction? Perverts who eat vegetables? etc

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Its very hard to figure this out I must say. Perhaps if there are Bosmer who do not obey the green pact they are seen as godless and expelled as heathens? Those who leave Valenwood I doubt obey the green pact but theres no real way of knowing, does anybody know of any Bosmer Alchemists? Tongue
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I think you can already use poison in the game... what are you getting @?

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I think you can already use poison in the game... what are you getting @?


Whether the Bosmer can use poisons, because naturally to get a poison you need plant derivitives and this may or may not be against their pact.
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Yes, you can use poisons but only those gained through alchemy. I think Bosmers should be able to directly apply poison from the plant in question to weapon.

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I also feel Wood elves should be able to apply poisons directly from plants around them but the pact is fuzzy on that.

No doubt they could apply potions and poisons already concocted, possibly purchased from alchemists.
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This question is essential to the way the Bosmer are depicted in Valenwood.

It is not simply about whether as a Bosmer in another Province did or did not do something it is about Bosmer attitude and practice = if Bosmer can use poisons and/or create them then how does this relate to the Green Pact, and how do other Bosmer see this? How do they react? How does Yffre react? Is the relationship to Magica affected by this?

How does Alchemy operate in Valenwood - does alchemy work normally? Does the green Pact Boost it or restrict it? Loads of stuff here to consider.

Waiit a minute you say, you do not have time for this. OK sez I then I suggest that Lore, Literature and Quest creation are not for you... at this stage. Maybe you have a great atistic or musical talent...

This is not just about using potions, this is about the religion and culture of the Bosmer = our people, people. If you do not have a take on this then that's fine - no one sees all. But whatever you personally want to engage in you should be able to see the value of this to the atmosphere in which you and others will work and later play...

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Hmm, I'm thinking the GP does not extend to plants in that way. And if it that would be madness. To have the manpower to inforce that type of law, thats something Bosmer do not have. And knowing their laid back feel to a lot of things (besides cutting down trees, that they are quite strict about) I think plants are fine.

They are using nature againts their enemies, so I do not think it would count as a crime.
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well if you guys are all bent on lore then maybe you should just use the better safe than sorry method, wow poison big deal. the last thing I need is 50 guards chasing me because its illegal to poison my arrows, hahaha! :D


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As I said they don't have the manpower to enforce it (if it is illegal) so it shouldn't be a problem.
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ok good as long as I wont have to worry about guards hehehe.

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Poison could be used I think if the alchemy was done by a non bosmer or the nightshade was imported already cut therefore dead or the nightshade was imported already as a poison.

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Indeed, that what seems to be the main thing with Bosmer (or what Beth realised a big mistake with the Green Pact), so they made this loop hole that aslong as Bosmer don't do the illegal thing in question, it's ok.
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