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Durdain
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This is a book hopefully developing Sanguine's presence in Bosmer culture. Not sure how happy I am with this but can easily be styled into something different.


Reflections on the Sanguine Sects
Galthragor of Haven


Sanguine, whose sphere is hedonistic revelry and debauchery, and passionate indulgences of darker natures.
-The Book of Deadra


Amongst the dense forests of Valenwood in the deep, secluded realms of the forest there are darker and much stranger things than most know. Those braver Bosmer brethren who venture into the depths of the wood have many a tale to tell of the oddities that reside in those places where I would not dare wander. To say that the presence of Deadra in Valenwood is a novelty is simply untrue. The Deadra have long since taken to our wooded homeland; one need only look at the terrible events in Gilverdale to gauge the situation. Of course Molag Bal is much more boisterous when it comes to shows of dark energy and malice; the deadra prince I would like to detail is much more subtle. Sanguine, by all accounts works the wills and souls of mer via temptation and underhand dealings. it is not terribly uncommon to hear the dark prince's name uttered from the lips of drunkards and spiteful ill-wishers, I myself have heard the name spouted at least a dozen times in my short lifetime.

Rather than over think these references I have decided to concentrate on stories I have learned from those who have had first hand experience of the deadra prince or his followers. Indeed it does not bode well to learn that there are at least three large shrines to Sanguine in this very province. I have been informed that there is a statue of marble depicting the prince in southern Valenwood somewhere, not too close to the coast. The Bosmer who relayed this information told me that the statue had been present for at least four-hundred years and was well known amongst their friends and families. They said that for as long as they could remember the place had been deemed a place of evil and that the statue fell into disrepair some time ago. It is interesting to note that when a party consisting of mer and men approached the shrine to breakdown and sell off the coveted marble it was created with they were greeted with endless supplies of ale and beer and became seemingly unable to resist the temptation. After draining the bottles of their contents the gang took it upon themselves to climb nearby trees; three of the seven fell to their death while the four remaining passed out in their stupors without injury.

Now while there were no worshipers present at the previous Sanguine effigy there was an obvious trace of dark energy which probably still lingers to this day. This next account details a group of Bosmer and one Altmer apparently heavily involved in deadra worship. It is not known whether the elves worshipped Sanguine alone or where it was that they did their praising but it is known that they wore next to nothing and brewed copious amounts of special ales, often disregarding Yffre's teachings on the green pact. The Altmer it seems was the instigator, bringing knowledge of the prince with him from Summerset and 'enlightening' his fellows. Other than causing distress amongst the elders in a nearby village and raising the odd eyebrow in the local tavern the cult was seemingly harmless however.

There is also an account detailing the presence of Sanguine worshippers in Eastern Valenwood, sometime during the five years war. The only problem with this tale is that my source is that of a Khajitti book; apart from obvious differences in calligraphy there were some problems identifying Sanguine's presence in the tale at all however I now think it is safe to assume that the prince had a place in this story. The Kajiiti say that when they approached a swamp cavern on the fringes of the Xylo they were met with song and revelry rather than blood and war. The followers danced around an open fire welcoming their Kajiiti enemies even offering them food and drink. Naturally the Khajiti were apprehensive, and rightly so; the revellers turned as soon as the beasts were saturated, draining those who manned the doors first, taking a despicable pleasure from each bite.

So what can we glean from these three experiences? I must say that it did not take an extreme amount of research for me to unearth these events, perhaps that says something about their frequency. However such is the lucidity of Sanguine and the range in which these stories represent the effect the prince can have, maybe he is more active than first thought, explaining in part why the deadra is spoken of reasonably commonly in conversation. It would also seem that followers of Sanguine can range in hostility, to over indulge in the more sensual aspects of life to the extent in which Sanguine sees fit is obviously not a good thing. To go as far as to seek out vampirism in order to please Sanguine, to be so barbaric and live in such debauchery and then to take pleasure in death so gloriously even against ones enemies is definitely something to note. I learned just the other day that academics and learned fellows have been known to refer to Bosmer as ?sanguine in their ways?. It came as a small surprise but against the uptight and stuffy rules and regulations of Imperial law I suppose we are an appropriate justification of such a phrase. I for one after hearing, reading and believing the accounts I have detailed think we Bosmer as a race are far from in league with Sanguine though it must be said I can see why the deadra would take an interest in our customs.
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Another great book Durdain Good job! Very well done.
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You ponder too much raggidman. :D

It took me some time to read it and understand it, but it seems ok. Good job! Gonna read it again just to be sure.

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Originally posted by raggidman
It's good to see you have made a serious start on the Deadra.

Your Galthragor of Haven seems rather naive - and the nature of Sanguine has yet to be fully illustrated.

Maybe if you focus on Jephre and his music as the fundamental positive motivating force in revelry, and Sanguine as the fundamental negative force that corrupts revelry then we will have something more concrete.

If Galthragor was more worldly wise, what would he see? as it is he is someone who is so far out on the periphery that he cannot get anywhere near the core. The on einstance where death is the outcome portrays sanguine as the Hero who lures and incapacitates the invading Khajiit.

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hedonistic revelry and debauchery, and passionate indulgences of darker natures
- passionate indulgences of darker natures?
How about the Marquis de Sade? and also
the creation of Daedric Weapons requires torture?
There is the Daedric Seducer.
Orgies
Crimes of Passion
baresarkergang

Ah well, it took quite a bit of effort to get there, but I suspect this is more like it... I do not like overindulgence of 'perversion' but I believe we have to go a bit further in that direction to portray Sanguine I dunno

Just don't go too far down that road yourself in your research Wink


Thats the thing - there really isn't much about Sanguine to research. From the description in the book of deadra theres a fair wedge of vagueness, its just I wasn't sure how explicit to be about it all.

The book is intended as a brief insight into something that really is quite secret, Galthragon uses what snippets of info he has to reflect on the situation. The third story was meant to illustrate vampirism as a perversion though it does look like Sanguine is a force for good there.

The deadric seducer must surely be Sanguine's main servant so perhaps they could make an appearance in some form or another in Valenwood. Theres certainly a lot to think about but I think ambiguity might be the best option when it comes to these 'perversions' letting the reader fill in the gaps as it were..
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I haven't had a look but I will do when I get the chance :)

The book isn't a complete illustration of Sanguine in TES lore - far from it and to write a book which contains a good bit on Sanguine would require a far better writer than myself I'm sure. Perhaps its possible to turn this book into something a little more involving but I dont think I can detail Sanguine's obvious perversions very well - I'm really not into writing that kind of thing, particularly not very explicitly Wink
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