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Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man
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I present to you, the first art for the architecture of Greenheart.
Lore about GH is very rare. The only thing Grey Wizard and I could find
was that the city looks like a city and the inhabitants never moved at
the ground, they use it as a garbage dumb. A nasty place to be.
We think the city is just a forest with trees, with building build
around, between and in the trees. So that's waht you have to keep in
mind.
topdown overview of the arena.
sideview of the arena and the beginning of a detailed look of one of the 4 big towers, will be finished later.
Architecture, the building can be stacked to some sort of towerlike
contruction. It goes around the trees. Proberbly building for the lower
parts of the city.
Another building, more higher up in the city. Good for a shops/market district.
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24.01.2007 19:38 |
   
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FLESH
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Looks very nice, Azkur is back so you can contact him about modeling
some of those. The marble (from the sketches it looks like some sort of
stone based building, so I presumed marble 
) could be explained by having the aylieds originally build this city.
I think because of the FPS issues this might cause it should be in it's
own World Space, not with walls, but with the foiliage obscuring whats
going on on top, what do you think?
This is shaping up well so far. But another thought, if we go with my
Aylied idea, then the Bosmer would have inhabitted it later, and the
higher up the trees you go, the more Bosmer it looks. Food for thought 
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25.01.2007 13:03 |
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Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man
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I forgot to post something about the arena:
You got one exterior, wall with the towers etc. As low number of polies on the inside as possible 
And you have to interior versions, one is little low poly at the top,
in this one you fight. The other has more detail, but less people. Very
little. This is the Arena when you aren't figthing, you can enter it
through the north and south gates.
Ok now in responce to FLESH, Yes our idea was that Greenheart was
originally build by Altmer (proberbly during the Cameron period?) But
only one part of town, the part with the transport facilities and
guilds is still totally intact. The other sides and especially the
outskirts of the city are very Bsomer. The added more and smaller
walkways, new ropebridges and some organic houses. On the outskirts
some buildings really are just ruins, while more to the center there
just empty with broken windows etc.
For color and material I say greenish marble, and not totally green. Well some decorations etc in real green.
About FPS, I agree FPS will/could be a problem. My idea: since the
inhabitants of GH never go down, it's the land of monsters and Igma,
there no ways up to GH from there. The only way to get to GH is by Fast
travel things like birds and teleport from the MG. Then we only make
one, the lowest part of the city, with no clutter which you can see
from the ground. While when you transport to GH you only load the city
with some trees around it.
Mormacil
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25.01.2007 14:23 |
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Mormacil
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The Arena is supported by stone pillars/towers and I think the Altmer build it.
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27.01.2007 01:18 |
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FLESH
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Originally posted by raggidman
Interesting - so your main construction material is stone. Presumably
this is in a Graht Oak - no other tree would be big enough, eh?
What happens as the tree grows?
Ummm - and when did the Ayelids start building tree houses?
Supposedly they did this in Cyrodiil too?
No doubt they were famous for their tree houses
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Perhaps the ground was too dangerous or something? That required them
to build up, perhaps the soil was unstable for building upon which
required the Aylieds to go a little higher, and then the bosmer did the
rest? There are a lot of ways to explain this logically without
'raping' lore 
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27.01.2007 11:09 |
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Mormacil
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Ok I updated the thirth building. I hope it's more clear for Azkur now. I think he mixed 2 differend buildings
It's a big picture
I think it's more clear now, I also try to update the forth building as
soon as possible. Maybe I even manage to do all the sketches I promised
to do before march
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28.01.2007 19:32 |
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FLESH
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That looks great Mormacil. We also need suitable lore for this, why did
the Aylieds build up in the trees (as raggidman asked)?
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29.01.2007 17:08 |
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Azkur_pt
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so know I understand the sketch but steel I dont understand why would
susch a wise race build a city in the trees sustained by wooden columns
when a simple army would cut the columns and bring the city down....
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29.01.2007 18:45 |
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FLESH
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The problem with the flood idea is that Greenheart is in the center of
Valenwood (not exactly, but close enough to it) and so there is no tide
from the ocean, hmm or did you mean the rain showers flooded it?
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30.01.2007 09:13 |
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Mormacil
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Or a river, I'm speaking of thousends of years, at the dawn of men (and mer)
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30.01.2007 10:13 |
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raggidman
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Thought arenas were an Imperial contribution?
Why an Ayelid Arena?
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31.01.2007 01:40 |
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Mormacil
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Well maybe the Ayleids liked arena's as well
, another solution is that it's build by the Imperials on something
that used to be a market square. They used the same green marble as the
Ayleids did, so it matches the city.
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31.01.2007 10:57 |
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FLESH
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Or it could've been redesigned by Bosmer, something about them makes me
think they enjoy Arena's, we have a lot to put in there like eating the
dead after victory
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31.01.2007 11:58 |
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Mormacil
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Only the fighters
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31.01.2007 13:27 |
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raggidman
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What if there are team support factions at the Arena, and they riot? Then the fans get eaten too! 
Suggest Ayelid foundations - maybe even dungeon - and different colour
and style for the Arena itself. Giving a clear sense that it has been
adapted.
Once again I suspect that this might be a building that was made during
the anti-Green Pact Rebellion. Though it could be Green Pact too as it
was the ayelids that originally cleared the area to build ...
If it is Green Pact there might be 3 phases of buiding and occupation =
Original Ayelid building, then taken over by ? lastly converted to
Bosmer Arena. Buildings that are long unused become overgrown in a
jungle so that would require a lot of ingenuity to get around ...
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02.02.2007 00:35 |
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Mormacil
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Altmer during the Aldmeri Dominion?
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02.02.2007 00:40 |
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The Grey Wizard
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I'll model when I get time. Right now as most of you know, I am VERY
involved with Middle-earth, we have a lot going on right now. I'll make
pilers and houses separate and then they can be configured and arranged
differently in the CS.
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02.02.2007 00:45 |
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windsurfer
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Originally posted by The Grey Wizard
I'll model when I get time. Right now as most of you know, I am VERY
involved with Middle-earth, we have a lot going on right now. I'll make
pilers and houses separate and then they can be configured and arranged
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I thought that was given up due to lod and size problems, guess not! Could I have a link to you site/forums.
Thanks, Tom
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02.02.2007 15:06 |
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FLESH
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I'm pretty sure it's being kept quiet for now. Btw Mormacil, any news
of GreenHeart? If you would prefer I can let you off the hook with the
porttown so modding on this can begin.
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