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thank you very much 
I dont have time to have a ook at those right now, but will absolutely do so later ;D
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raggidman
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Purlease take yer time 'bout ooking. There gotta be lots ter write
about the plants in Valenwood, so I recon it will help get some people
focused on their models once you're ready to get into that...
Still, I would like to get an proportion of the Valenwood Plants (but
only a % into the Silgrad Bookstores to provide advertising for
Valenwood (and same with the others too 
) before the Silgrad + mods are ready to play.
I recon that you guys will have to guess who will come first after Silgrad, and we will concentrate on stuff in that order, k?
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Bump and don't forget to mention the Valenwood edition of the Botany
Books to your friends! Valenwood is till awaiting info on its first
plant - which is strange as this is jungle central! 
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raggidman
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Would you transfer this thread to literature please Flesh
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raggidman
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Ty DarkAs - this is like having my own personal magic lantern, with genie... 
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raggidman
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master, me? ohhh 
hmm,
create 
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way too many faces in that last post
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raggidman
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| the famous Valenwood Edition of the Botany Books |
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The Valenwood Edition of the Botany Books
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Post here your contributions to the famous Valenwood Edition of the Botany Books
Please note that while it is the intention of the Botany Books to
provide a service that is available in and to all the particpating
Provinces and to respect their requirements, strict observance of
protocol and credit will be maintained, and the editor retains the
right to withdraw the use of the Botany Books and contents from any
group that does not fully understand and respect the normal and proper
academic conventions. Judgement as to any dispute on this question must
remain with the originator and editor.
Many thanks, raggidman
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From a post to Krisi_
Krisi-_
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Screenshots of the ingames and then dropped I didn't care to take screen since it looked wierd
Krisi-_ has attached this image (reduced version):
Image needs to be replaced.
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Nice one Krisi-_. This will give something for illustrators who do not have Oblivion capable computers to work from!
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17.07.2006 10:42
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Arrowroot Effects:
Restore Agillity
Damage Luck
Fortify Strength
Burden
and I forgot the Domica Redwort(it will be up soon)
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18.07.2006 12:36
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Looking forward to your Domica Redwort, and hope you are having fun with all this!
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20.07.2006 10:35
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Domica Redwort Effects:
Resist Frost
Cure Poison
Damage Health
Invisibility
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Good job Krisi . Can't wait to see some more.
These names sound familiar too, if they are quotes from in-game stuff
then it is very important to say so as this forms a powerful basis for
your own input.
...snip...as what I want to do is create a differnt and clearly recognisable style for each of the different races.
Not sure which race yours would be as yet.
Having said this if there is anything more you can add from
in-game - screenies of seeds, leaves etc, that will help us to create
concept art and construct models later!
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15.04.2006 20:22
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I felt like writing something a little different today and came up with this. I hope it's suitable.
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Valenwood Ironwood Tree - commonly known as the Ironbark Tree
The Ironwood tree is amongst the most hardy and well defended of flora
in Tamriel. Reaching up to thirty feet in height, and ten feet in
width, the tree is an impressive sight. Its bark is streaked with
glowing silver-white veins that travel all the way from its substantial
root-base up to the beginnings of the canopy, creating quite a
spectacular, almost ethereal effect on the surrounding forest. The
interior of the tree is a jelly-like mass of capillaries and sap,
offering no usable wood. As the water content of the tree is so high,
the bark is the only thing keeping it erect and thus must be extremely
strong. The tree?s sap is extraordinarily nutritious, and the bark
provides impressive defence from predators as a secondary function. In
fact, it is so effective in this role that it is all but impossible for
any creature without specialist tools to reach the sap (apart from near
the top of the tree where the bark is weaker). The Leaf-Child clan of
Bosmer who dwell near the Eastern coast of Valenwood hold these trees
in very high regard, creating powerful medicines and all manner of
foodstuffs from its sap. By doing this they break from the green pact
that binds the rest of the Bosmer people, causing friction with the
rest of their race that often manifests itself in open warfare. In
fact, their culture appears to be a strange perversion of the rest of
Bosmeri, for they eat and craft only from Iron trees, the consumption
of flesh being taboo to them. The Children of the Leaf as they are
often referred, are also the only creatures in Tamriel that are able to
manipulate its bark. The bark of the Ironwood tree is comparable in
strength to a thick plate of iron, hence the name. Although it can be
cut using stronger metals such as Adamantium or through magical means,
the only way to retrieve it and have it retain its natural elasticity
is through the ancient Leaf-child art of Tying. Without this
elasticity, the bark becomes brittle over time, losing its inherent
strength. By marking out foot-high rings on young trees using the
trailing vines from more mature specimens, Leaf-child woodcrafters can
retrieve large amounts of the bark without the need for cutting. The
process requires leaving such a tied tree for five years. By that time
the bark will have grown up to a foot wider in diameter, the ironwood
vines separating the tied rings from the main body of the tree. From
here, Leaf-child woodcrafters can peel the thick rings of bark from the
trunk of the tree, filling the gap with a thick resin to prevent
infection and to retain stability. What processes the bark is subjected
to next is a matter of much speculation amongst scholars, for when it
is seen next by outsiders, it is in the form of beautifully crafted and
polished bark armor, combining the strength of steel with the lightness
of leather. The reader should note that such suits of armor are rare
and only worn by the most important of the Leaf-Child Bosmeri. |
edit by raggidman - just put in the new name that you suggested = Ironbark. An excellent name btw
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maybe (since most Bosmer won't use vegetation, Green Pact) there is
only a special clan of Bosmer who doesn't care of rthose rules and uses
this bark?
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You what? Gah... Didn't know about that. Bugger and blast.
Thanks for the info. Just read the pact (wish I had a few hours ago).
Man, and I thought hippies were bad! Now I hate the whiney little
scrotes more than ever. That pretty much makes all I've written
rubbish. Hmm... Time for some serious editing.
[Edit] Serious editing complete. This will most likely be the last Bosmer-related bit of writing I do. What a silly people.
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20.06.2006 01:23
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Silly? Esp since the Wood Elf is probably not big enuf (or strong enuf)
to wear the average suit of Daedric Armor - except somehow armour
always fits
a worthy first for the Valenwood Edition that gets you a BB BSc
Botany major with a minor in Lore (if the Perfessor concurs) - if you
complete a second you could have a Botany Books Doctorate...How does Dr
Treebiter sound to you? Tempting?
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Hmmm... I've always been a sucker for titles . Now I've read Dance in
the Fire I feel more up to the task so I don't think another is out of
the question.
21.06.2006 19:21
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ps, anyone shoots the kitten and they are dog meat!
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I am afraid Ironwood trees are native to skyrim:
Ironwood Nut is a hard-shelled fruit that comes from the ironwood trees
growing deep in the forests of Skyrim. The wood of these trees is hard
as the metal after which it is named. The very rare black variety of
ironwood is said to produce a nut which is very succulent and believed
to greaten the strength of the adventurer who is able to crack its
shell and partake of it.
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I'll take your word-for-word for it.
Ironwood Nut comes from the Skyrim Ironwood trees. Does this mean that there are no other varieties of ironwood tree?
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well there I dont really know and the info comes form special flora of Tamriel
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Bugger... Not only did I fudge the lore, I also re-invented something
that already exists in game. Honestly, I've never heard of the Ironwood
tree you mention Krisi. I mentioned Bark armor in a piece of writing I
submitted in this forum and thought I'd make some back story as to it's
origins... Hence my Ironwood tree.
Can't I just change it to the Ironbark tree instead?
15.07.2006 14:55
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probably yeah and Oblivion have messed a bit with lore so you can get Ironwood Nuts ingame
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You can find some in the Imperial Library (in-game I mean) on a shelf.
About three I think, and one of the only instances I know of.
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15.07.2006 15:03
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well if the count part of the CS work they have placed it 28 times
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As far as I knew I said, without checking the CS. Either way, it is really rare in Cyrodiil.
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quote:
Originally posted by Treebiter
Bugger... Not only did I fudge the lore, I also re-invented something
that already exists in game. Honestly, I've never heard of the Ironwood
tree you mention Krisi. I mentioned Bark armor in a piece of writing I
submitted in this forum and thought I'd make some back story as to it's
origins... Hence my Ironwood tree.
Can't I just change it to the Ironbark tree instead?
Treebiter to the name change!
....snip... If you accept
there is more than one variety of Ironwood Tree then you can blend the
old lore and the new = no waste.
Personally I like the Ironwood piece, so worry not, just adapt. Once
there is a species mentioned in-game that can be the basis for
different varieties unless the Lore forbids... which in this case it
does not.
And I further like this idea (no matter if it is arrived at
accidentally) because people will become confused between the
comparatively rare Skyrim Ironwood and the common Valenwood Ironwood -
commonly known as the Ironbark Tree? or is the Skyrim Ironwood common?
Assuming it is ok with you Krisi, I will copy your Ironwood quote to
the Skyrim Edition - where I believe you will have the first entry -
for this you get academic research recognition, but no degree. For that
you have to create your own description!
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Then I will add that Domica Redwort is native to Valenwood but it is
ingame (they didn't care if it just where valenwood it was in before)
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Ingame
Domica Redwort is a herb grown by many residents of Valenwood for their
beautiful and showy flowers. They attain a height of about three feet
and have feathery leaves; the flowers are usually bright red. In
addition to their beauty, they are said to have magical abilities to
enhance the appearance of anyone who carries or wears one of the
flowers.
Ingame
Arrowroot is a thick, rubbery tuber that can be found in the province
of Valenwood. The plant is quite difficult to find as its aboveground
foliage is very meager and scrawny. But the root itself can be most
beneficial to the gatherer as it has magical properties. The paste made
from grinding the root is quite wholesome and can improve the user's
accuracy with a bow and arrow, or other missile weapon. |
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Now you're motoring Krisi_
These names sound familiar too, if they are quotes from in-game stuff
then it is very important to say so as this forms a powerful basis for
your own input.
Would you keep inputtin stuff that you think of or find in this simple
format, as what I want to do is create a differnt and clearly
recognisable style for each of the different races.
Not sure which race yours would be as yet.
Having said this if there is anything more you can add from
in-game - screenies of seeds, leaves etc, that will help us to create
concept art and construct models later!
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they are ingame but Morrowind and Daggerfall lore says they are just in
Valenwood and the devs didn't care.. btw happy with th 's?
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Smart move. another That will make it very clear to modders what is
essential as we are bound to follow in-game Lore generally. Doctoral
work (an extension of known Lore) is potentially negociable in theory,
but I would be happy to find that moddelers can rely on the best
entries here, and feel no need to alter ideas.
There again I am sure that someone will come along who has the knack of
creating wonderful and unique models of plants and flowers that are so
good that we happily put the cart before the horse and base Botany
Books entries on their models. either way we all win.
PS there is now a Lit Dev recruitment thread - would you like to enter
your name there and I will enroll you as a Research Assistant?
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Good to have this here, I think it will be easier to access and there will be more contributions to it because of that.
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Ty FLESH
There are a lot of Trees in Concept Art and some models that someone
could do write-ups on - at the moment what we have is presented in a
factual style - it would be really great if someone has the feel to
create a Bosmer savant style of writing!
And if things go as expected with the the University then what may
happen is that in TES 3 the University of Silgrad will suffer a
calamitous reversal, and 2 ships filled with the surviving University
members and their members will flee to the Provinces = one to Elsweyr and one to Valenwood and the scholars will bring their precious copies of the Botany Books with them.
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my, what big eyes you have hypno toad .........
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FLESH
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We have writers here, we just need them to show up
And it sounds like a great idea you have for TES 3.
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link to the Valenwod Edition of the Botany Books