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raggidman
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28.05.2007 18:24 |
 
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Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man
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Nice find 
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28.05.2007 19:23 |
 
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Durdain
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I was thinking about how we would approach the Meh Ayleidion after
reading A Dance in Fire and kept thinking to myself how cool it would
be to have it in the game, we could have one version in the original
elfish/ayleid on scrolls and what not in the hands of the rich and
influential and further versions translated by scholars and whatnot.
But again we are back to the elfish language problem. Of course we
could do the 'Fragment: Meh Ayleidion' approach and have scraps of the
original abound in the original tongue.
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22.06.2007 13:23 |
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Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man
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TYOB did some great work on Ayleid translation and aren't we going to
create an region in the south west based on the remnants of the Aldmeri
Dominion?
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22.06.2007 13:30 |
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Durdain
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Yeh there should be remnants of the Dominion in the South West, the Meh
Ayleid could be found in the hands of some of the elves involved there.
Hvae to have a look at that translation work could be integral to our
literature and naming conventions. 
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22.06.2007 13:39 |
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Mormacil
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In the south west it will be mostly Altmer, since VW was partly in
hands of the Altmer and well the norther parts in hands of the Ayleids,
but we'll include some of the more savage Ayleids in VW 
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22.06.2007 13:47 |
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Tlo1048
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I just had an idea.
What if instead of using elven text you , after beating the MQ,
'learned' to speak, and read ancient elven, and it gives you the book,
and you can read it like English?
Or make it part of the MQ, where there is a quest to find an ancient
elven sage who has been hiding for centuries in an ancient Hist tree.
Then you ahve to find him, and ask him to teach you the ways of the
olden elves to save Valenwood from 'something'.
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30.09.2007 02:17 |
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Brian S
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this is interesting, I think the Meh Ayleidoon might be some knowledge
of pre-Y'ffric transformation rituals causing hidabaility to the user.
I'd love to write it, the ideas are tingling me brain. 
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05.10.2007 00:48 |
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Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man
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Go, go write 
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05.10.2007 01:32 |
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windsurfer
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Island Quests/ Storys on the southern islands (abeacan isles), will be good as there is very little lore on them
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05.10.2007 06:57 |
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Durdain
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If the name 'Meh Ayelidion' means 'The one thousand benefits of hiding'
we could take that literally and list them in poem form, some task I'm
sure but probably a fun piece for the game. Collecting quests are
always fun...
What if, ages ago the poem was torn to pieces and hidden all over the
province, a slight sense of irony on the writer's part and the player
could find them, sort of a more fun nirnroot quest? Now I'm not saying
the ancient poet tore the the ayelidion into a thousand pieces, that
would be pretty insane and the pieces would be ten a penny. We could
have a published widespread book already in circulation with some of
the discovered 'benefits of hiding' and various theorist's commentaries
on why this was done and what could happen to the person who collected
them all? I can think of a few benefits of hiding. Maybe not a thousand
though hehe. All of this could be why the poem is so famous amongst the
bosmer. I can just imagine a Bosmer picpocket defending himself against
an imperial court with the relevant line from the poem:
"A crowd pass by their faces in furrow
The cutpurse strikes bounding from burrow"
I'm no poet but you get the idea
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19.10.2007 16:24 |
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Durdain
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Likin' the elven cassanova idea
Keep us posted on the Ayelidion Brian, I'm very intrigued now 
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21.10.2007 20:08 |
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Brian S
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| The Meh Ayleidoon [1st Draft] |
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The Meh Ayleidoon
Being the first volume in the zero volumes of the gifts of Y’ffric
blessing. Translated from Valehaldmeri, Stridabecean Dialect.
[prolougeaccepted_proceed…And in those days of Mundic turbulence, the
myth of omniscience over the roots of our fatherland was truth. All of
the Wooden kin would slip into the tree trunks and flower-petals and
return to find themselves as not who they used to be. Then our holiest
of fathers Y’ffre lent his bones to the world for all eternity, without
the servitude of the foolish…]
To the west and to the east
Men and mer and beast
Holy as the [bee?] of eight heavens
Earth and cursed bones
Trees and waves and five hearths
Number in sixteens
The eyes of Jhunalites
The Holy Xarxes sight
Had no spectacles for our [superior?] leaves
In and out, the Bosmer drift
Drifting behind bark and sea foam home-holders
Nemer invade, they [are] taller and younger
They could not kill our holy [and?] healing trees
A viscera-eating log
Hearts and minds were driven into [complete] madness
We became that which they would walk-upon
They cried “the forest [is] deadly, the forest breaths death-songs!”
They ran into their trees
Trees of fled mountain-ears
And became the vassals which became our lordmakers
We cheered and danced
Danced like roots, intertwining and drifting
Love of the roots, love for the Y’ffre
The Era of Mer had died
On of our holy men [clergy?] built himself a throne
He named himself [untranslatable] and gave the world new time
By decree of his first pen-brush
Our hiding-blessings were stricken from good
We cried and ran to the forest
We cried and ran to our deaths
We cried and ran to our wives who became trees and brush for us to love unto
When his soldiers came to kill us
We prayed and by sacred will fled from time
Gazing upon the silver/serpentine blades
From behind the leaves
Earthbones kept us safe and alive
Bless them and be blessed
And be hidden inside love as is good
When read backwards and sideways and in between letters, a thousand benefits you will find.
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21.10.2007 21:42 |
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Durdain
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I'm awful at interpreting poems and didn't understand what most of that was saying, is it all lore correct?
Most poems are lost on me but the mystery in this text type suits for
the ayelidion definitley. Are the numbers at the begining nonsensical
or do they refer to something?
Trees and waves and five hearths
Number in sixteens
The eyes of Jhunalites
The Holy Xarxes sight
Much better than anything I could do but like I say I'm no poem critic
so I cant say whether its a good poem or not, particularly without a
'moron's guide to the message of the poem'.
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25.10.2007 20:51 |
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Durdain
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Deadra Princes?
I did say I'm a moron when it comes to deciphering poetry. Particularly poetry about a fantasy world.
bee of eight heavens? five hearths? Jhunalites?
Could you explian it fully and in Layman's terms? For the poetically inept?
Raggidman would be better at giving you some critism heh, I'm sure he knows how to read poetry.
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31.10.2007 17:47 |
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Brian S
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Jhunal is an old Nordic form of Julianos, Jhunalites being his followers, more particularly scholars.
The eight heavens are the plane(t)s of the gods, and their bee is the one who put his poison of freedom in them. Lorkhan.
the five hearths are the elven provinces at the time: Morrowind, Valenwood, Summerset, Cyrod, and Skyrim (Falmer)
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31.10.2007 20:39 |
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Brian S
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To the west and to the east
Men and mer and beast
Holy as the [bee?] of eight heavens (explained)
Earth and cursed bones(Earthbones and cursed bones, cursed bones
meaning the Magna-Ge who rather than sacrifcing themselves to the
Mundus, fled.)
Trees and waves and five hearths (explained)
Number in sixteens (explained)
The eyes of Jhunalites (explained)
The Holy Xarxes sight (Xarxes is another aspect of Julianos, the Altmeri one.)
Had no spectacles for our [superior?] leaves (This and previous verses
are saying that even the smartest of scholars at the time could not
understand the Bosmeri dissapearing powers.)
In and out, the Bosmer drift
Drifting behind bark and sea foam home-holders (the latter being algae)
Nemer invade, they [are] taller and younger (Nemer=men)
They could not kill our holy [and?] healing trees
A viscera-eating log (Referring to hiding in logs, and attacking the men)
Hearts and minds were driven into [complete] madness (drove them crazy )
We became that which they would walk-upon (grass and graves)
They cried “the forest [is] deadly, the forest breaths death-songs!”
They ran into their trees
Trees of fled mountain-ears (Ayleids)
And became the vassals which became our lordmakers (the Cyrodiils, who made the Nine Divines)
We cheered and danced
Danced like roots, intertwining and drifting
Love of the roots, love for the Y’ffre
The Era of Mer had died (beginning of first Era)
On of our holy men [clergy?] built himself a throne (Camoran)
He named himself [untranslatable] and gave the world new time
By decree of his first pen-brush
Our hiding-blessings were stricken from good (he forbid their practice)
We cried and ran to the forest
We cried and ran to our deaths
We cried and ran to our wives who became trees and brush for us to love unto
When his soldiers came to kill us
We prayed and by sacred will fled from time
Gazing upon the silver/serpentine blades
From behind the leaves
Earthbones kept us safe and alive
Bless them and be blessed
And be hidden inside love as is good
When read backwards and sideways and in between letters, a thousand benefits you will find.
tuh-dahhh. anything else need clearing up?
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06.11.2007 23:53 |
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raggidman
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The meaning of life and how can I make my next billion?
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22.11.2007 21:46 |
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Brian S
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Originally posted by raggidman
The meaning of life and how can I make my next billion? |
the former: Reach heaven by violence
the latter: Creeper.
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23.11.2007 02:29 |
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