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This may be what many people see it as. But I still think it should be discussed.
My view of the Green Pact is as a religion. Now lets get some current
world examples. Christianity: Christianity has many different
practices, and many strict rules that are meant to be followed. These
rules are not followed everywhere, and in some places they are ignored
completely, while others take up some practice here and there.
I remember learning Religion in my school. I used to view Judaism as
this religion with facinating rules that ALL people followed, and not
one person deviated. Through my study I learned that Judaism was a lot
like Christianity, it has some strict followers, and some not so strict.
An outsider viewing the Green Pact would see it as this almighty set of
rules that all Bosmer follow to the T. Except that this never happens
as said. We have Bosmer who believe fully, Bosmer that believe, and
practice some, Bosmer who believe, but do nothing to show it, and
Bosmer that just don't believe at all.
Generally I think it would be that the more secluded an area is (the
more central in Valenwood) the more Green Pact orientated it is. While
other areas (Arenthia, The Islands) are not so. Some areas (Falinesti)
have no choice but to follow Green Pact building rules (can't have wood
made houses on a tree, that just doesn't work). But in these places we
can have a huge mix of people, people that live in Green Pact homes,
follow Green Pact law, and people that live in those homes and couldn't
give two hoots about it, as well as the in betweeners.
My point is that Valenwood is a diverse culture. It says in lore that
Bosmer are not good with masonry, but can we say that there is no
Bosmer anywhere in Valenwood that would not be able to build himself a
stone home? That doesn't mean we turn Valenwood into a Cyrodiil,
instead it means that we have some (few) areas that are not strictly
Green Pact (perhaps a mix) and some (even fewer) areas that just
plainly ignore the GP.
My thoughts, discuss,
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Vaqries depending on the locale of the city and who frequents it.
Port cities would likely be very loose on their Green Pact enforcement.
Recall however that the purchase of foreign made plant products IS
allowed in the Green Pact, as is foreign harvest of the plants of
Valenwood.
Obviously, the market for Valenwood plant products is lucrative. It
would be likely that some Bosmer would not follow the Green Pact and
instead work on helping foreign companies harvest the wood of the
forest. Either being as scouts into the forests, actively working
themselves, or just leading the work group. I could see easily a market
of Guides for foreign companies in the forests. The Meat Mandate would
likely be less frequently enforced as crime killings and eating of the
body aren't... sensible. If your family is eating the corpse with you,
you are gonna get found out. Not to mention the possible drugs in said
body.
Deeper into Valenwood, and you get stricter on the Green Pact and Meat
Mandate enforcement. Especially in Falinesti, the former capital of the
Bosmer territories.
It's not so much a religion as it is a contract with the God Y'ffre. A
covenant, so to speak. So long as they follow the Green Pact and Meat
Mandate, they receive his blessings and love. The Green Pact itself is
not a religion.
Pretty much any Bosmer living outside of Valenwood does not bother with
the Green Pact, and most try to find ways around its rules. "How can
you be sure MY arrow killed him?" Kinda thing. So, the more outside
cultural influence you have in the town 'aka, port city' the fewer
following the Pact.
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Rickious
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FC4, I agree, GP isn't followed 100% in all areas, the more culturally
diverse a town or city, and the more traders pass through the more they
have an excuse to have wooden homes etc. So towns deep in the forest
who dont see many traders and passers by and dont like strangers are
strict, kind of like Quakers (kind of). Side quests would then be built
around the GP-ness of an area.
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21.04.2008 19:30 |
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Durdain
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Like it.
Your comparison to christiantity makes me think we need a bible/koran
or a series of books on the subject. Since I'm still stuck without
interior building capacity I'll try and devote myself to hammering out
some literature on this grey area.
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22.04.2008 22:50 |
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FLESH
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It sounds plausible that the Bosmer people would have something to
remind them exactly what they can and can't do, as well as general
guidelines on how to live life. I like the book idea, can't wait to see
what you make of it 
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22.04.2008 23:54 |
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Rickious
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Yea, the Bosmer Book! Make sure its available in all good local book shops! lol
What would the Bosmers holy book be called?
Hers a quote from a TES source on the net...
Y'ffre
(God of the Forest)
Most important deity of the Bosmeri pantheon. While Auri-El Time Dragon
might be the king of the gods, the Bosmer revere Y'ffre as the spirit
of 'the now'. According to the Wood Elves, after the creation of the
mortal plane everything was in chaos. The first mortals were turning
into plants and animals and back again. Then Y'ffre transformed himself
into the first of the Ehlnofey, or 'Earth Bones'. After these laws of
nature were established, mortals had a semblance of safety in the new
world, because they could finally understand it. Y'ffre is sometimes
called the Storyteller, for the lessons he taught the first Bosmer.
Some Bosmer still possess the knowledge of the chaos times, which they
can use to great effect (the Wild Hunt).
I am right in thinking Y'ffre is pretty much the GP god? So maybe as
he's sometimes called 'The Storyteller' this book can be written by
Y'ffre or at least titled appropriatle and maybe contain ectracts from
Y'ffri's writings.
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Originally posted by Rickious
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- The 0,5 Lessons of Fargoth 
(Nords trying to be amusing can be rather awful sometimes)
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Rickious
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MArcus, I think the Green Pact and the Cult of Fargoth are different. 
Would it be funny to keep him alive in a mod? or just sad?
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23.04.2008 10:42 |
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MarcusAurelio
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If he'd be 'always essential' , i'd use the Thu'um to bring down the White Gold Tower!
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The Nord pointed his finger at the building on the hill , and said :"That is the Emerald Hall , the Palace of Ysgramor."
How can you tell if a Bosmer is lying? If his lips are moving.
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23.04.2008 10:51 |
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FLESH
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A name isn't something I am good at coming up with. We'll see what
Durdain makes of it. And Y'ffre should most definitely be referenced in
it.
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The Pact of the Bosmer?
Y'ffre's Decrees?
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