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Rodan
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Another idea: Knights and Temple Quests

When I have an idea, it's better to get it written before it's lost! Wink

The one thing I haven't encountered is temple quests (outside of the guilds). Perhapts is Morrowind we can bring in questing through the temples.

Also I think that we can bring in Knight quests. There were many Knight guilds in Daggerfall we could reintroduce them.

So I would like to hear your input and ideas for this.

20.06.2006 20:17

Razorwing
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I haven't played Daggerfall and my understanding of what those Knight guilds would entail is too dim for me to form an opinion of them.

20.06.2006 21:07

bob196045
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RE: Another idea: Knights and Temple Quests

Rodan

Would their be a possibility of a Dark Knight Order?

Bob

20.06.2006 22:26

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SACarrow
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Wouldn't that order require very acrobatic young female acolytes wearing brightly-colored costumes? :lmao:

Still cracking myself up (and showing my age),
Steve

20.06.2006 22:43

KuKulzA
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Rodan... how about a fanatical knigtly order from the Wayrest area... and the queen of Wayrest, enemy of Helseth has implied to them that they'd do a great service killing Helseth... and so they march all the way to morrowind...
and when they get there realize they still have a long way to go... and instead decide they will first try to kill the Azhag Orcs and then move on Redoran and then burn and kill their way to Ebonheart, then Mournhold?

21.06.2006 03:34

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Rodan
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I still have the Daggerfall Chronicles Book (which I just found recently (with my memory, all things become anew Wink

)). I'll get the book and post each knightly order that is there. Then we can work on it!

21.06.2006 04:12

HeIsTheDarkness
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http://www.cs.susu.ac.ru/games/hints/daggerfall/guilds.html
There are many other guilds in the world of Tamriel surrounding the Illiac Bay. This is a list of thier rank requirements, training offerings, and benefits.

Knightly Guilds
1. Primary: Long Blade, Archery, Critical Strike, Etiquette, Medical, Giantish, Dragon.
2. Training: None
3. Ranks: (Armor) Benefits
o Rank 0: Aspirant - () No charge for staying at inn in any region where the order is present.
o Rank 1: Squire - ()
o Rank 2: Gallant - (Silver) One free piece of non-magical armor starting at this rank
o Rank 3: Chevalier - (Elven)
o Rank 4: Keeper - (Dwarven) No charge for staying at any inn
o Rank 5: Knight Brother - (Mithril)
o Rank 6: Commander - (Adamantium) No charge for travel by ship
o Rank 7: Marshal - (Ebony)
o Rank 8: Seneschal - (Orcish)
o Rank 9: Paladin - (Daedric) Free house

list of temples:
Akatosh Temple
Arkay Temple
Dibella Temple
Julianos Temple
Mara Temple
Stendarr Temple
Zenithar Temple

There is also Kynareth Temple, which is different:
1. Primary: Jumping, Running, Dodging, Archery, Harpy, Dragon, Destruction, Illusion, Climbing, Stealth, Daedric
2. Training: Jumping, Running, Dodging, Archery, Harpy, Dragon, Destruction, Illusion, Climbing, Stealth, Daedric
3. Benefits:
o Buy a blessing of Endurance + (rank + 2)
4. Ranks to Any Temles: Benefits
o Rank 0: Novice - Breath meter runs (Rank + 10) / 10 longer
o Rank 1: Initiate - Heal all wounds, no cost (When talk to member)
o Rank 2: Acolyte -
o Rank 3: Adept - Sell spells
o Rank 4: Curate -
o Rank 5: Disciple -
o Rank 6: Brother - Access to Spell Maker
o Rank 7: Diviner - Daedric Summoning
o Rank 8: Master -
o Rank 9: Patriarch

RW, they were almost all the same. Player could join only one and had no ability to quit. All the quests were randomly generated, don't remember any of them, but somewhere in the web all the types can be found.

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21.06.2006 07:07

TheImperialDragon
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If I remember correctly, there is one knightly order for each region. Each has pledged its allegiance to the lord of the region. For example: Knights of the Dragon (I think) pledged their allegiance to the King of Daggerfall. The quests they get are of the usual sort, for example, one quest involves going to a dungeon and killing all the daedra there, so then a mage from the Mages' Guild can come and close the dimensional rift. When the player returns to his quest giver, he/she learns that it was all made up, and the mage who summoned the daedra wanted to get rid of them without paying the Fighters' Guild to do it.

Also, in Daggerfall, you could only join one knightly order, and one religious order.

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21.06.2006 08:53

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Rodan
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As promised (from the Daggerfall Chronicles):

Daggerfall (Knights of the Dragon)
Sentinel (Knights of the Moon)
Sentinel (Knights of the Candle)
Wayrest (Knights of the White Rose)
Anticlere (Knights of the Flame)
Lainlyn (Knights of the Horn)
Glenpoint (Knights of the Owl)
Dwynnen (Knights of the Raven)
Avibon-Gora (Knights of the Wheel)
Totambu (Knights of the Scarab)
Santaki (Knights of the Hawk)

Also the Nobility:
Lord Kain (Knights of the True Horn)
Lord Plessington (Knights of the Cup)

Also the Guilds:
Mage's Guild (Knights of the Lamp)
Temples (Knights of the <God Symbol>)

If I remember correctly, I was able to find some of the lesser guilds in Daggerfall, but not all of them.

21.06.2006 16:34

bob196045
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knight orders

Are any of these Orders... Bad Knights (The Dark Side of the force)

I didn't see much about the particulars of the Knightly orders other then their ranks and ability advancements

Thanks
Bob

22.06.2006 07:06

HeIsTheDarkness
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There were no dark knights

Well, not lots of details - they are just another type of guild, not very different from the other ones. In DF each guild type is mostly advancement+bonuses+random quests of some types

Bonuses differ from free house (temples) to teleportation,enchantment,etc(mages guild)

22.06.2006 07:13

TheImperialDragon
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RE: knight orders

In Daggerfall, these orders did not have much to do in, other than a source of services and quests. And the ambition to rise to the top, of course.

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22.06.2006 07:14

bob196045
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knights

most excellent
thanks for that info
Bob

22.06.2006 08:22

Rodan
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Exactly. What I am thinking is to utilize the Knights of the Lamp in Blacklight and maybe as well one of the guilds is trying to infiltrate into the city as well. Give the player a lot of choices for questing.

22.06.2006 09:11

TheImperialDragon
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quote:

Originally posted by Rodan
Exactly. What I am thinking is to utilize the Knights of the Lamp in Blacklight and maybe as well one of the guilds is trying to infiltrate into the city as well. Give the player a lot of choices for questing.

How about the uprise of a mercenaries' guild?

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22.06.2006 20:17

Theunspeakable
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Does anyone know how to join the religious knightly orders, specifically the Kinghts of the Lily?

Are you offered to join as you rank up in the church, or do you have to search them our seperately, and if so, where are they?

28.09.2006 07:36

TheImperialDragon
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quote:

Originally posted by Theunspeakable
Does anyone know how to join the religious knightly orders, specifically the Kinghts of the Lily?

Are you offered to join as you rank up in the church, or do you have to search them our seperately, and if so, where are they?

Welcome to Silgrad Tower, first of all. Wave

I haven't memorized the names of all the knightly orders, but I do know that the knightly orders are not unlike those other guilds, just walk up to a guildhall and join.

However, the knightly orders are different for each province, Knights of the Dragon are in Daggerfall, while Knights of the wheel are in another region, etc...

Ask a commoner somewhere about the Knights of the Lily, and watch for the name of a region, that region would most likely be the place to search. Hope it helps.

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28.09.2006 22:04

Theunspeakable
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First of all thanks for the welcome, nice to be here, what you guys are doing seems great. Dancing Banana

Thanks for trying to help, but what I am looking for are the knightly orders connected to the churches, Order of the Hour protects Arkay, Maran Knights protect Mara, Order of the Lily protect Dibella. All of this sights that I can find say, yes they exist and yes they are joinable, but they don't say where they are. Do any of you have a clue?

28.09.2006 23:27

bob196045
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Howdy

And yes welcome

To answer the original question directly... No you can not join any of the Knight orders at this time, I am speaking only in relation to TESIII

Currently we are working on the Knights of Julianos, haven't really decided if we will make it a joinable Order or not. Their are currently 3 NPC's that hold rank in the Order of the Lily and they are basically their for show, at some point we will get around to that Order.

I hadn't thought about the posibility of splitting Temple Rank/Classes I think ts a good Idea to add this possiblility, say your PC reaches a certain rank in the Temple they are offered the option of continueing with their Temple Studies or begin training in the Knight Order of their choosen diety.

Good Suggestion !!

Bob

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29.09.2006 01:04

Theunspeakable
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Thanks for making you answer clear, I was very confiused for a second when I started reading it, I was actually wondering about TES2, Daggerfall and this seemed to be the most active forum with people who seem to know enough about these games.

29.09.2006 01:13