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TheImperialDragon
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Somehow, I think it will turn out exactly the same, but it is safe just to be sure that is what everyone meant.

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Ok, I'm game.

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I'll give it another go. Since the discussion is about the gridmap I'll need someone to give me a new one for the entire Morrowind area, not just one area.
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Rodan, I was doing one for Axen, it's not completed, but can be completed very quickly.

it involves making grid on prometheus map
see here:
Exterior cell size in Oblivion vs. Morrowind

should I finish it?

update: anyway, I've finished it
http://217.199.243.162/vova/prometheus_grid.jpg
3.2mb
grid = thin black lines

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quote:
Originally posted by HeIsTheDarkness
Rodan, I was doing one for Axen, it's not completed, but can be completed very quickly.

it involves making grid on prometheus map
see here:
Exterior cell size in Oblivion vs. Morrowind

should I finish it?

update: anyway, I've finished it
http://217.199.243.162/vova/prometheus_grid.jpg
3.2mb
grid = thin black lines


You used the wrong version of Prometheus' map though. :) Bethesda placed Solstheim much farther south than it should have been, distorting the coastline around Blacklight. TR had to factor that into account, so that's why Prom's new map looks like that. However in Oblivion's timeline the distorted coastline was restored and Solstheim bumped further north, like seen on the official map on elderscrolls.com. So, Prometheus' old map is actually truer to current lore in that regard.

I don't understand why we can't use the grid map I put together, especially since it incorporates the concept map of the south landmass and so would give better information. Actually I don't understand why we should mod the whole Morrowind Province landmass either, since it's not in our skope. If we ever do, and the existing landmass was built to scale from the linked grid map, it shouldn't be a problem to continue modding the Province if we ever decide to expand further south either.

There's an on-going core vote regarding the scale, and hopefully we'll have a decision on that within a day or two. :)

I hope development on it can get underway promptly after that. "No city is an island unto itself", to distort a quote, and apart from connecting our cities I'm looking forward to setting up claims in the wilderness, tooling on farms and mini-villages, hopefully modding a Velothi tomb or two (or ten). :D
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Does Vvardenfell team creates their own landmass? or Rodan makes shared landmass?
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I would like a shared landmass that also included the entire Morrowind province, including the islands for Port Telvannis. That way any future projects in Morrowind can be part of it as well. Pelegiad would be at (0,0).
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omg *melts brain from math overload* I suck at math, good thing theres so many people who dont. anyway it sounds like Morrowind is going to be BIG compared to OB.
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I don't know who moved it to the tavern but I would like it kept to the Blacklight claims area until I get to test #2.
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quote:
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noremorse: I think a square area around Lake Rumore is about 256 cells, so yep, a 16x16 ratio will put a cap in that scale's ass he he. That was discussed a lot as well, if I recall correctly, how unrealistic it was to see the spire of the Imperial City from half the Province. I know that when I was coming down from Bruma and saw that spire I was immediately struck with the feeling that I was trekking through the mountains north of the Imperial City, rather than exploring the northern reaches of the Cyrodiil Province. I think it'll be really cool to actually get lost in our wilderness and actually feel like you're a long way from civilization. :)


Actually you are supposed to be able to see the spire of the Imperial City from a very long distance away.
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But as close as you are, being at the edge of Cyrodiil and all, you shouldn't be able to see that far. It doesn't really seem all that massive if you can see all the cities in Cyrodiil from one mountain top. I stand on top of a skyscraper downtown and I can't even see all of the city, let alone my state or country.
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Look, White-Gold is supposed to be huge.

REALLY huge. Much thicker and even TALLER than is appeared in the game.

There aren't that many structures on Tamriel that are bigger.
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quote:
Originally posted by Rodan
I would like a shared landmass that also included the entire Morrowind province, including the islands for Port Telvannis. That way any future projects in Morrowind can be part of it as well. Pelegiad would be at (0,0).


If we are going to limit all development of the Eastern extent of our map to the eastern edge of Vvardenfell permanently then that makes sense - otherwise I suggest that if it is useful to have the 0,0 in the center then it might be somewhere around Vivec? Well, just identify the mid-point on a map of the Province as a whole...

Something like that should be a matter of universal agreement...

Actually I am astonished that there are no projects taking in the remainder of the Province... Morrowind IV will be the only 'partial Province' of all the affiliated mods - and as ST assoc seems to be the founding centre of our Nirn I feel that is theoretically rather a poor show...

(note the careful lack of mention as to who is going to do all the hard work Wink )

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I've been working on both the new landmass and the city. Each version of the city has not been doing so well. I have to research the TES to get some more info.
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HOLY CRAP!!!!

IT'S RODAN!!!!

Hi Rodan.
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