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Mormacil
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The turks really whooped our asses in the Dark ages... So did the Huns, not always the europeans won my freind 
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2007.01.15 23:12 |
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Ebonyknight
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Registration Date: 2006.02.04
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After the middle ages we are now dominate and still are. No offense or
anything just look what we have done. We had slaves freed them. We
killed millions of jewish people. We had the Largest empire in the
world. We are the richest people but we have done some nasty things to
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2007.01.15 23:28 |
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Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man
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Yes we sure have, but our days could be over soon. We lose power
economically big time now, there a few ways we can stay at the top, but
it won't be easy.
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2007.01.15 23:31 |
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KuKulzA
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Originally posted by Ebonyknight
But in white/europeanish places we have always had the best of strats
some how and always find a way to outbest or defeat them in combat you
see it threw your eyes as white dominate and I see it as we outjoust
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not always best strategy, not always... usually not...
but I think one advantage and disadvanatage of European way is the
concept of the Earth being there for your exploitation, andsuperiority
as a given thing
so yes, you do all you can to come out on top and be the most powerful,
but they way you do it is by consuming resources and expanding and
subjugating... sorta like capitalism in a way
and in the long run you'll burn yourself out and the survivors of the white-expansion will be able to rise up again...
not being racist, but European thinking in general is like this...
not much in the sense of balance, or thriving in seeming stagnation... etc.
westernized thinking, capitalism, the need to for more and more exploitation, markets, and land will end up destroying the Earth
cancer is when a cell grows rebellious, and allocates resources to
itself from the body and instead of being in-balance and eventually
dying off it keeps growing exponentially by wreaking havoc on its
host...
we are being cancer, we are trying to suck Earth dry...
and thats what I hate...
if we can find a balance that would be ideal but I doubt any large
scale environmental and convervationalist action will take place for
some time... until the evil we do to Earth becomes tangible and clear
to everybody This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by KuKulzA: 2007.01.15 23:53.
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Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man
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that's all our overused capatalism. Capatalism itself isn't that bad, but we overused it.
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2007.01.16 00:17 |
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KuKulzA
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Originally posted by Mormacil
that's all our overused capatalism. Capatalism itself isn't that bad, but we overused it. |
ummm
which is WHY it is bad
capitalism in itself tempts its overruse though... since it needs more markets, that implies many things that can be done...
and to make the most profit out of capitalism, which is what people try
to do... you gotta use it to its fullest extent which will destroy
us...
like look at Africa... look at how bad it destabilized Africa after the
white people left and had forced whole colonies to make only cotton, or
mine for ore, or whatever... large scale famine and death is what
happened...
but point is, its near impossible as far as I can see for capitalism
not to drift in the bad direction, which is most profitable within ones
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2007.01.16 00:45 |
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Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man
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Capatalism can work, btw the definition of capatalism:
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capitalism,
economic system based on private ownership of the means of production,
in which personal profit can be acquired through investment of capital
and employment of labor. Capitalism is grounded in the concept of free
enterprise, which argues that government intervention in the economy
should be restricted and that a free market, based on supply and
demand, will ultimately maximize consumer welfare. These principles
were most notably articulated in Adam Smith's treatise, The Wealth of
Nations (1776), in which he opposed the prevailing theory of
mercantilism mercantilism
..... Click the link for more information. . Capitalism has existed in
a limited form in the economies of all civilizations, but its modern
importance dates at least from the Industrial Revolution Industrial
Revolution, term usually applied to the social and economic changes
that mark the transition from a stable agricultural and commercial
society to a modern
..... Click the link for more information. that began in the 18th
cent., when bankers, merchants, and industrialists?the
bourgeoisie?began to displace landowners in political, economic, and
social importance, particularly in Great Britain. Capitalism stresses
freedom of individual economic enterprise; however, government action
has been and is required to curb its abuses, which have ranged from
slavery (particularly in Britain and the United States) and apartheid
(in South Africa) to monopoly cartels and financial fraud. Capitalism
does not presuppose a specific form of social or political
organization: the democratic socialism of the Scandinavian states, the
consensus politics of Japan, and the state-sponsored rapid industrial
growth of South Korea while under military dictatorship all coexist
with capitalism. Yet despite the capitalist ideal of "hands?off"
government, significant government intervention has existed in most
capitalist nations at least since the Great Depression in the 1930s. In
the United States, it exists in the form of subsidies, tax credits,
incentives, and other types of exemptions. Though private production
plays a major role in the economies of Germany and Japan, both nations
have centrally planned industrial policies in which bankers,
industrialists, and labor unions meet and seek to agree to wage
policies and interest rates; these countries reject the idea of letting
the market wholly determine the economy. The collapse of the Soviet
Union and its satellite states in Eastern Europe (1989?91) left those
countries with a heavy burden and an uncertain future, and represented
a substantial retreat in the power of capitalism's traditional economic
opponent, socialism. Also uncertain is the future course of China's
economy, in which small-scale capitalism is increasingly allowed within
a strictly Communist political framework. |
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2007.01.16 00:59 |
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KuKulzA
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tribalism works too, so does communism in theory...
there are always abuses...
I think all ways can be equally good if everyone was good
communism needs an honest commoner leadership... capitalism needs moral values, and tribalism needs virtuous leadership... etc.
I would prefer communual tribalistic life though... more balance of
resources, more piety, more respect, etc. I'm am not saying primitive,
but social mentality... not necessarily throwing individualism out the
window, but I think people need to think about future generations,
Earth, and our human race more than pitiful personal wants 
I'm not against capitalism, but I've seen mostly abuses... it starts
good then BAM "let's enslave people!" "let's wage war cause they
boycotting us!" etc. |
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2007.01.16 01:22 |
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KuKulzA
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Originally posted by Mormacil
We're going the wrong way indeed
oh and: STOP CHANGE AVATARS SO MUCH!!! 
ARG I saw it getting changed 4 times tonight... ok off to bed, need to get some rest. 5 different avatars brblhmr tss arg... |
yeah we are going the wrong way...
1. wrong viewpoint in terms of society and resources
2. we are soooo off-topic
and sorry, I gotta change it again... from maori to...
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2007.01.16 01:34 |
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ChaosCarlos
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Registration Date: 2007.08.08
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Location: Wales, UK
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I'm mostly Welsh, but have some English in me too. My grandfather on my
mother's side was English. I know his family crossed over from Normandy
in 1066 with William the Conquerer. I have no idea about the rest of my
family since most Welsh history before the 1100's is obscure at best
since the first recorded history of Wales was when the Romans invaded,
even though Wales (and the rest of Britain) has been an inhabited land for the last 29,000 years.
If I had to guess I'd say that somewhere down the line I have some
noble Welsh blood from before the death of Llywelyn the Last and the
annexation of Wales to the Kingdom of England, however I'd have to say
that over the years it's suffered and become diluted.
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IAMTHEEMPEROR
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Location: New England
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Gah, and right after I start another thread about it!
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2007.08.09 07:07 |
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DarkAsmodeous
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Registration Date: 2006.05.25
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I can't believe I missed this...
Ku, everything you hate about exploitation of resources and such are
not capitalism. Anything that requires one party to do something they
have not agreed to do by contract, is not capitalism.
The simple truth is you speak of mercantalism, the belief that for one
nation to gain, another must loose, and it is used to justify a great
number of atrocities. Almost every arguement against capitalism is an
arguement against mercantalism or against non-capitalist government
interferance that favors the rich.
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