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Does TES lore mention anything about the language of the Nords? Do they (or did they) speak a language other than the "common tongue"?

If TES lore doesn't mention it, and no one else has come up with the language of the Nords, I have some ideas for one.
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I think the assumption is that they do, but they've been assimilated into the Empire for so long they can all speak Imperial (ie. english) as at least a second language.

Go ahead though, it could be interesting.

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Nords like all races speak the Imperial (English), although with something like a Scottish? accent. But for native languages, I'd go for Swedish, Estonian, Norwegian, Icelandic, Finnish or Danish.

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I haven't heard any Nords with a Scottish like accent in Oblivion...

I'll write down my ideas for the language tonight.
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I think it was a different story in MW.

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I'll write down my ideas for the language tonight.


Aaight, it'll be an interesting read I'm sure. :)

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Well I'm not going to post my ideas right away because I am going to make it as a book for the game and I don't want my ideas stolen. I'll work on it today and post it here when I'm done.
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Sweden/Finnish language of course.

Vikings was sweden.

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There are powerful connections between the Scandinavian races and the Scots, not the least of which is featured in the legend of 'Beowolf'. The simplest history lesson you will get as a kid in England is that the Vikings invaded Northern England's shores and eventually settled there in patches, especially in York from where my family owe their ancestry and a slightly re-phrased form of a Nordic surname. Cool

However, stronger connections were forged with the Scots where the Vikings held most of their settlements and this identification is reflected in both the landscapes and cultures of Scotland and the Scandinavian countries.

It may help VinlandViking to know that I've recorded a generic race voice set for Nords in a Scottish accent and featuring various unique lines drawn from the lore of Skyrim. Information about this starts here: Nord Voice Lines .

Of course, it would be great to do a genuine Danish accent as Danes are the more commonly known 'Vikings', at least as far as the Brits are concerned. However, no one stepped up to the task and I hoped my Scottish Nords would suffice....personally, I love the Scottish accent, as do many.

If you wished me to add lines according to the language you create and you felt that this accent matched sufficiently with it then I might be interested in collaborating.....not now, though....too busy! Uh Oh

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Well I was just going to write a book about the language and evolution of the Nords using Old Norse as the base of their language. I wasn't talking about the accents that they have when speaking the common Cyrodiilic/Imperial/whatever you want to call it language.

I do want to try to create a whole history of the language for them though since Bethesda didn't bother to do it. Let me finish writing the book (well, one of them) and post it here before we continue any other work on their language.
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Sweden/Finnish language of course.

Vikings was sweden.


AND Estonian (Sigtuna), Norwegian (Iceland,Greenland) and Danish (England,France?) Wink

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And Faroese.
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My bad, a little piece of geographical ignorance (or amnesia for that matter :D ).

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How can you tell if a Bosmer is lying? If his lips are moving.

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Is there any evidence supporting more than one native language in Skyrim?
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Erm, no, not that I've heard of. But a theory that might be plausible is that the Greybeards communicate in an Atmoran accent/language (of course, provided they actually speak during some rare moments) as well as citizens of a more "old-school community" such as Dawnstar.

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How can you tell if a Bosmer is lying? If his lips are moving.

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One of the ingame books mentions the Greybeards speaking, and I did have another idea for their language being Atmoran in descent.
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I know that 'Thuuum' is simply that word itself shouted at a very high volume, enough to incapacitate the enemy. There may have been other words of power that crossed over from the original Atmoran dialect.

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I thought it was like this - they don't speak at all, 'cause a cough is enough to cause a fairly decent avalanche. (The greybeards, that is, due to the Thu'um)

Referring to Atmoran accents I did not mean the Way of the Voice though.

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The Nord pointed his finger at the building on the hill , and said :"That is the Emerald Hall , the Palace of Ysgramor."

How can you tell if a Bosmer is lying? If his lips are moving.

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I'd forgotten that. Thanks for correcting me. =)

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No prob, always happy to help a fellow northerner. :)

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How can you tell if a Bosmer is lying? If his lips are moving.

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