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I was planning on claiming the Oak and Thorn quest line once it came up, but I have the same problem as Sieg with RL and all, so I'm not sure if I will have the time.
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Well I recently posted a quest idea for a guild (but after rellizing this) and it's like the Guild of the Silver Raven. So maybe I'll claim that when I can.
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Well I recently posted a quest idea for a guild (but after rellizing this) and it's like the Guild of the Silver Raven. So maybe I'll claim that when I can.

Post some of your ideas and we'll see how well they work. Yes Read up on what lore there is on Skyrim for inspiration.

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I'd like to give an idea of something that should happen in the Thieves Guild questline(I could possibly claim the Thieves Guild, though I really can't script):

When you challenge the big bad boss, he says that you shouldn't screw with him and you zoom out of the talk-mode. At that point, your controls stop working and the camera is in 3th person circling around you. Five archers come out of the shadow and shoot you everywhere (nice graphics since the arrows stick in). Then, when you're almost dead, the badguy says "Enough!". And from that moment on everything goes pitch-black. You wake up in a labourcamp with somebody standing over you, saying that you screwed with the boss and lost. All your equipment has been taken(can be regained later on) and all of your skills and primary skills are lowered atleast by 60 (magically, under the name of "Badly Wounded") (so without your magicka you aren't able to do spells, and you don't have a longsword). You are summoned by the campleader and he tells you, that you have to do challenges, untill you are dead. This includes puzzles, mazes and arena fighting against fellow camp-mates. In between these exercises you can talk to the camp-mates (lot's of them have unique dialog), and slowly you regain your strenght(after every challenge), then, after you've killed a camp-mate who was known to you, you meet a monk(also prisoner there). He believes you can free everyone there and he heals you, and gives you a weapon(s). Then, next time you get summoned you kill the arrogant camp-master and possibly free the camp, and/or get out of there.....

Just an idea which would be incredibly fun, it's just a moment out of the usual "I can best everyone!" idea of TES... Wink

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It's more of a FG quest, but it does have a lot of creativity in it Wink Good job!
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It's more of a FG quest, but it does have a lot of creativity in it Wink Good job!


not if following Seig's TG idea..

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I have a pretty good idea for a faction, not a particularly large one. It is like a hunters guild but it goes a little deeper than that. For starters the guild HQ is 3/4 fur tents, which moves round skyrim at different times of the year, to a total of about 4 locations, the travelling won't need to be done in realtime or anything just one day they are in one place, the next they can't be found (as part of the journey), the next day they are in the next location.

They move around purely to hunt different creatures when they are most fruitfu in that location eg deers in spring time, in a location where there is plenty of theml, the hides and such which they hunt for is collected and sold before they move on. I think the hides from new creatures should be much more valuable to make this worthwhile, but basically, it consists of 4 unique (or at least obscurely retextured animals/beasts)(one for each location), each one can only be hunted at the right time of the year which will be the same time as the tents are in that area, to get information about the different creatures, you must first hunt enough of the local creatures and sell the hides to the main huntsman (for less that what you would get at the shop), before one of the members approaches you or trusts you enough to talk about the next bit.

This should be a bit different for each region just to keep it interesting. Here are some ideas.

Region One: The guy approaches you and says that because you are such a good huntsmen he would like for you to join him on the hunt of a pretty beasty beast he has been tracking for the last couple of years, he tells you he figured out last year where the creature goes but it was too late to do anythign about it, he offers to split it down the middle, whatever you get.
After various scripted trackings and followings of trails and conversations you find the beast (need ideas for what these are) and kill it.

Region two: The guy you sell the hides to (because you make him loads of profit and he trusts you), shows you a letter from a relative detailing his lucky escape from a beast but he just jokes about him always over exaggerating. using the information from the letter you track it.

Region three: after selling so many hides (just to force the player to stick around with the camp a bit) there is a scripted unique beast attack on the camp, the whole camp cains it, but because it is pretty large it takes a while to get, the whole camp gets a share because this creature is so large

Region four: After selling so many hides, talking to one of the drunk huntsmen (who is only drunk at night) will reveal the clues of another.

The rewards you get for finding these creatures is a) the achievement of finding the unique beast b) If you get ALL the hides (you cant sell them, they are quest items) (then for a price one of the huntmen who is skilled in fur crafting, will make you a very warm looking piece of unique pathed looking armour).

Anyone like this idea? There are no ranks, but I think it could be truly immersive, and the sort of thing I wanted from oblivion for my hunter sort of character, most of the money made is just spent on booze and better hunting equipment, these people live for the hunt and all enjoy each others company so much that they simple want to grow old doing what they love.
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Would work nice as a Mini-guild, but not as a main one, sort of like the order of virtuas blood in vanilla OB. Create a seperate thread and work abit on it. Make sure that the questline is short and not big.
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Thanks for the promt feedback. Yea I'm hoping for I to be like a mini guild, somewhere where they know you, but you can't become the ultimate leader of it and change history etc. It is just a band of travelling huntsmen who all love the hunt.

I'll come up with some ideas, for locations, characters, unique creatures and the quest to find the creatures. I'll post this all when I've thought it through a bit more.
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Make a new thread for it.

Call it something like "Hunters of the Traveling bear" or something like that.
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Fighters Guild

Bear Legion

Mages Guild

Thieves Guild

Knights of the Rift

anymore knights?

How about a lord of a hold is an imperial. The Imperials used their power and influence from the south to give this guy some power and push in Skyrim. He owns a small army within a small hold he is a baron? Why not make him renegade he looks to become a great dicator of a certain area for skyrim. You can join him and do a lot of raid/assassination/stealing/bribery/delivery/companion work?

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Order of Oak and Thorn

Order of The Silver Raven

Order of The White Wolf

...and there was one other order I can't remember now.


The idea about the Imperial Baron-King (lord) doesn't fit somehow. I dunno There could be an Imperial trying to become the ruler of a Hold though, there could be a quest to aid/stop him and all that.

Btw, there is a dictator-ish character already, the Witch Queen of Whiterun (she also rules The Pale).
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Yea dying Nord Baron and his imperial advisor or military general is trying to claim the throne would make a very good questline:)

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Yea dying Nord Baron and his imperial advisor or military general is trying to claim the throne would make a very good questline:)

...and the Baron in question won't have a successor (son/daughter) on top of all that. Yes
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Yea His long lost newphe is living in some cabin and is the only heir to the throne. But the Imperial wont have it he wants the rule. So he sends assassins to finish off the bloodline. But the newphe has some nord friends with him infact he is an outlaw but could become a politican. Hmm? sound good?


How would you like to pick a hold or small town with me Pysco and we could discuss this?

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Yea His long lost newphe is living in some cabin and is the only heir to the throne. But the Imperial wont have it he wants the rule. So he sends assassins to finish off the bloodline. But the newphe has some nord friends with him infact he is an outlaw but could become a politican. Hmm? sound good?


How would you like to pick a hold or small town with me Pysco and we could discuss this?


that's not so much of a guild as it is a rather longe misc questl quesline, similar to the umbaco one (in terms of length not storyline).
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Northshore would be a good place for what you're planning.
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Northshore would be a good place for what you're planning.

Sounds good.
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Well sorry I didn't mean to make it a faction it is a faction not joinable but you affect how it unravels. Where is Northshore I've looked on the map can't find it all I see is North Keep.

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Well sorry I didn't mean to make it a faction it is a faction not joinable but you affect how it unravels. Where is Northshore I've looked on the map can't find it all I see is North Keep.


Northshore is the district, like Eastmarch or the Rift.
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Where is Northshore I've looked on the map can't find it all I see is North Keep.

It's not a city, it's a Hold. Dawnstar is the capital of Northshore, you could use that as the city for the quest.

Make a new thread if you get any serious inspiration hits. :D
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Where is Northshore I've looked on the map can't find it all I see is North Keep.

It's not a city, it's a Hold. Dawnstar is the capital of Northshore, you could use that as the city for the quest.

Make a new thread if you get any serious inspiration hits. :D


It could count as one of the rulers quests, like in OB (the count/ countess ones).
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Dawnstar is pretty big how about Stonehills? And where should I make this new thread?

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In the quest section like all other quests.
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Dawnstar is pretty big how about Stonehills?

It is supposed to be BIG, this is SKYRIM. :D
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Thing is stonehills is a small village with a chieftain, Imperials wouldn't waste their time with a place like that.
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How big would Dawnstar be like buildings wise?

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The Old Ye Bard thinks I'd be good for the Thieve's Guild Quest Line...

Anyone want to tell me anything I should know about the Cyrodiilic Thieves' Guild before I even try to claim the Skyrim Branch?

(Hasn't finished any of the MQs of faction or the main one)

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The Old Ye Bard thinks I'd be good for the Thieve's Guild Quest Line...

Anyone want to tell me anything I should know about the Cyrodiilic Thieves' Guild before I even try to claim the Skyrim Branch?

(Hasn't finished any of the MQs of faction or the main one)

Even the "old thieves" (mentioned in the description in the OP) of Skyrim are a bit more aggressive than their Cyrodiil colleagues. The Cyrodiil Thieves Guild opposes killing and violence, they hold themselves to be thieves and not murderers. This is a rule that generally stands for all the branches of the Thieves Guild, but the Skyrim branch often comes close to crossing the line.

As the Skyrim Thieves Guild has the mafia feel to it they don't mind bashing a few skulls if someone happens to be lagging behind on their payments. Yes

Play through the Cyrodiil Thieves Guild quest line to get some more insight on the Thieves Guild.

Thieves Guild quest line claimed by Karzan. Check
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Not going to be able to play for five days... I'm not claiming it yet...

I might not be that great.

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Not going to be able to play for five days... I'm not claiming it yet...

I might not be that great.

Well since no one is in a rush to claim it I will keep it on the side for you. If you decide to make a start on it, it will be waiting. :)
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