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I don't know if you will like to use them, or if you wont, but I thought I would create some trees for each province:


Give me your feedback please.

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Very nice!! Good job!

Kinda looks like there's a hole in the second one though. And more snow :)

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I'm working on a snow effect, the hole: it's just the angle at which I took the shot.
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Texturing the rims of the leaves might do the trick.
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Looks very nice!! Pinetrees?

Would be nice to see a larger pic!! Good job!
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I can't tell exactly from that pic, but the bark of the tree looks to shiny.
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Conifers actually :D . I can do pines though. Thats the default size that fraps makes, sorry I can't make it bigger Frown . The shinyness is just because I turned on the light to make it easier to see. It shouldn't be like that in-game.
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Thanks for the trees and great work FLESH! These will really help to make our wilderness seem more unique. You will keep a version with out snowy leaves right, for the temperate valleys and stuff?
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Excellent! Good job! Is there any hassle getting them into the game? And are you using Ob textures or your own?
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No hassle, I just cannot figure out how to make the leaves hsow up, all I get it the trunk and the branches. I am using speed tree textures.

Sig: Sure I'll keep a version without snow. I can try to make some more variations soon, just tell me what you want, longer branmches, wider trunk, wider branches, longer trunk. Anything at all just ask.
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Flesh, if you're trying to get the leaves to show up in the CS, make sure you have the leaf button along the top of the main screen selected. :D If you can't get them to show up ingame, -well- then I haven't a clue.Frown
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It's selected, but don't worry, I wil GOOGLE it.

*goes to search the mighty power that is, GOOGLE*
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Any word from the al(most)-knowing Google? What shows up in-game? Just the wood there also, or something to indicate that the texture for the leaves can't be found?
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FLESH perhaps you've already checked this, but maybe it's the alpha map in the color maps for the leave's textures, if they are black then the leaves would be invisible, so they need to be white for them to show up.
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Sorry for the delay in replying, didn't see that there were new posts here. Hmm nothing as of yet, but, when I save, the file comes with some .tga files. One of them is the leaves. I have been told to convert it to a .dds but have not tryed it yet. However, I did learn how to UV map :D

EDIT: When I put an exotic tree I made into the CS, the leaves show up as little squares, where can I go from here?

EDIT2: I have made a break through. When selecting an .spt file for the tree, it also gives me the option to select the leaf texture. Unfortunately every time I select it it tells me that it's the wrong directory. Any clues as to what directory I should put leaf textures in? (I tried the Textures, and I tried making one called Leaf. No luck.)

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If it's just a matter of setting the file locations in the nif, I'm strictly old school. I use my trusty Hex Workshop. That I can do for you.

In the data files, the .spt files are in the \Trees\ folder and the leaves are in the \Textures\Trees\leaves\ folder in .dds format. We'd probably drop down one more level, adding \1SK\ to keep our filestructure neat.

edit: If you're getting little rectangles, that's probably a sign that the alpha channel isn't clear. Psychotic's answer sounds right (remember fighting that one with my flowers in TES3 Mad )

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It keeps telling me invalid directory. I don't know what to do.
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Ok, in itty-bitty steps (us old guys need that :D ) First, what is "it" that says that you have an invalid directory? Can you load and save a file from/to a directory, or can you only load. That might indicate "crippleware." If you can load, modify and save, but only to a default directory, you might have some kind of crippleware, but you might also just have to go into the preferences and set up the directory structure (I realize most programs now do this more or less automatically, but "back in the day," we had to set a lot of that stuff manually.)

Another thought: when you installed "it", did it modify the autoexec.bat file, adding a filepath? I think Max and photoshop do that, and I had to manually correct that to get the right combination. Hope this gives you some ideas. And remember, this is all part of the joy of modding! =)
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I meant the CS, when I am selecting the leaf texture for my tree in the CS (all beth trees have them aswell) It (CS) tells me that I am selecting the texture from an invalid directory.
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Make sure that the leaf textures are in the same directory or as the ones for the Beth trees.
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I cant see where the leaf textures for Beth's trees are. If I could then thats where I would have put them Frown
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I cant see where the leaf textures for Beth's trees are. If I could then thats where I would have put them Frown

Data/Textures/trees/leaves
I'm quite certain that ^^ this is the path of the leaf textures.
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backslashes, but you are correct. :)
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Well the directory is correct. But now when I select the texture the CS crashes.
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I have no idea what to tell you. Try restarting your PC or re-installing the CS, so it can create a new .ini. That's all that I can think of I'm afraid.
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I tried re-installing already. This is not good. The CS seems to crash when important stuff is being done Frown
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I tried re-installing already. This is not good. The CS seems to crash when important stuff is being done Frown

Than get your chain-saw, we're going to Bethesda HQ! Chaos
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*Decides to take a mini (big ass) gun instead* Now, where are they again?
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*Decides to take a mini (big ass) gun instead* Now, where are they again?

I think they don't want us to know because they FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES! :D
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The more horror stories I hear, the more I'm amazed that Oblivion came out at all. Confused

Usually the CS won't crash because of a bad or missing texture, but because the mesh is corrupted. eg: if the texture filelength indicator in the NIF is different than the actual texture file length, expect a crash. If it's crashing when you try to load up the texture, that filename in the NIF is probably the culprit.
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The more horror stories I hear, the more I'm amazed that Oblivion came out at all. Confused

I suspect they used a different version of the CS.
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nah they just removed a lot of things and did care to fixs the holes after on.. or so it would seam...(other words now they got a different CS but they probably didn't start making two)

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Actually they probably worked with an even buggyer CS, but they new how to use it to it's full potential as they made it.
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Bethesda HQ is in Maryland, right next to Xenimax Media (google earth'd it up lol)

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Bethesda HQ is in Maryland, right next to Xenimax Media (google earth'd it up lol)

Good! Let me just get that tactical nuke... *runs to underground missile silo*
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Ok I have figured out how to get the trees in-game. Will try today, if it doesn't work on my comp I will give instructions to one of you on how to get them in-game.

See you later,

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Just a little note, You might want to edit existing obliv trees since if you dont you seemingly can only use a single leaf texture, this makes your trees look fairly repetitive. It seems to UVW map leaf positions and use a single DDS (you will note the original textures have 3 or so leaf clump textures on them) you need speedtree RT I think? Unless you have figured out another way? you mentioned UVW mapping on the last page?

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Great! Flesh. - How'd you do it? (So when we get to other plants, we can use your wisdom.)
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For the trunk all you need to do is make sure that the trunk texture is in the right folder, and it will activate by itself. The leaves must be the ones you saved with the tree (I was selecting different ones, thats why the CS crashed) and must also be in the right folder. When putting the tree in the CS it will give you an error, but that doesn't mean anything. Now I'm off to make a plug-in with those conifers.

EDIT: Sorry didn't see your reply corwyn, I have Speed Tree. And I can choose any leaf or trunk texture I want so no worries there, I already made some trees for RP.

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I'm flying blind here because I don't know the folders. Razorwing got it in-game and tested it out. Would it be OK if I gave you guys al the files and asked him where to put the textures?

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