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Wintercross
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Ok, so TYOB suggested I try drawing some concept art of the Throat of the World..
I know very little about the elusive tower... but hey.. I came up with
something along the lines of this. Sorry about the quality of the
picture.. I had trouble with the scanner. But anyway.. I kinda was
trying to make a hybrid of Aylied and Nordic design.. anyways, thoughts
and suggestions are welcome 
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Smokindan
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Very nice!!
I don't know much about lore, so I can't say if it fits or not but awesome job 
I think more stonework (like on the bottom) would be good, though.
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12.08.2006 07:35 |
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Wintercross
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Yeah, I like the stonework... but it was taking too long to draw 
So I figured I'd leave it there and see what people think
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Psychotic
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The statues in the middle are great!
It's not yet decided how the Falmer architecture will look, but I like what you've done in that concept. 
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12.08.2006 15:09 |
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Siegfried
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It looks good Wintercross, but technically the mountain is the tower
itself. On the top of it there is just a small settlement/stronghold,
built initially with Ayleid architecture, but then modified with the
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12.08.2006 16:31 |
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Wintercross
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Wether it gets used or not needs to be decided I know..
either way, it's fun to draw a tower, and TYOB was the one who gave me the idea.
However, are there any suggestions or ideas for the design?
I've got adding more stonework
@Psychotic: Yeah, the statues were what I drew first.
I was like: Cool! Ancient tower with spiritual imporatance, NEEDS STATUES!!
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Jagnot
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| quote: |
Originally posted by Siegfried
...but technically the mountain is the tower itself. On the top of it
there is just a small settlement/stronghold, built initially with
Ayleid architecture, but then modified with the Nord kind. |
This is my first post so excuse me if I sound ignorant.
It doesn't really make sense for one of the towers to not have some
grand structure of some sort. I dont know much about lore, but if you
think about it a certain way the tower that Wintercross drew could be
the 'podium' (of sorts) that the stone (I forget the actual name of the
object, sorry) rests on/in. I doubt you would find it simply laying on
top of a mountain (which is the 'tower'), it would need some type of
grand resting place.
I may have gotton confused by what you said Siegfried, so please dont
take it like I was correcting you or anything (I dont know much about
lore after all).
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Siegfried
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Welcome to Skyrim for Oblivion Jagnot! 
Glad to see you found your way over here
No offense taken about your comment. Towers are complicated, I don't
even fully understand them. If I recall correctly White Gold Tower in
Cyrodiil is a "replica" tower, imitating one on Summerset Island. Red
Mountain in Morrowind was a tower (or was it the golemn guy in Red
Mountain?), and the stone it housed was the heart of Lorkhan. Actually
it was more of an "anti-tower" (thats just the word DA used when he was
explaining to me, no clue what it means exactly).In Valenwood there
tower is a walking tree, upon which exists their capital city. The
Throat of the world is only partly in this plane of existence, missing
half of its apex. This could mean that part of it was physically
blasted away at one point or another, but it could also mean that part
of the Throat exists in multiple dimensions. But back to the point of
my argument, the Throat of the World isn't necessarily a Tower in the
traditional sense, just as Red Mountain isn't, or White Gold tower is a
"replica" so to speak. Plus in lore it generally references the Throat
of the World as the tower, what has been portrayed in sketches it High
Hrothgaar, where the Greybeards live.
Now the throat could have a tower on it, but I never really imagined it
having one. I always thought somekind of an ornate little
palace/fortress type place for High Hrothgaar (the settlements name in
lore), would be the coolest. This post has been edited 3 time(s), it was last edited by Siegfried: 14.11.2006 03:41.
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Jagnot
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Originally posted by Siegfried
Red Mountain in Morrowind was a tower (or was it the golemn guy in Red
Mountain?), and the stone it housed was the heart of Lorkhan. |
Yeah. I recall hearing that Numidium was actually a tower (weird...).
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Throat of the world is only partly in this plane of existence, missing
half of its apex. This could mean that part of it was physically
blasted away at one point or another, but it could also mean that part
of the Throat exists in multiple dimensions. But back to the point of
my argument, the Throat of the World isn't necessarily a Tower in the
traditional sense, just as Red Mountain isn't, or White Gold tower is a
"replica" so to speak. Plus in lore it generally references the Throat
of the World as the tower, what has been portrayed in sketches it High
Hrothgaar, where the Greybeards live.
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Hmm, if the mountain actually was the tower, how could
half of it (or more?) be missing at the apex? I dunno, thats why I
always assumed that something more resembling a tower was where the
stone was held.
Dang lore is confusing!
As for the tower that Wintercross drew, what if it wasn't necessarily
shaped like elven stuff, but had elven designs carved into it? Like
some criss-cross carvings like those found on the Ayleid Ruins in
Tamriel? Just a thought. 
Edit: Thanks for the welcome!
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This post has been edited 2 time(s), it was last edited by Jagnot: 14.11.2006 15:38.
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14.11.2006 15:34 |
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Psychotic
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Originally posted by Jagnot
Hmm, if the mountain actually was the tower, how could half of it (or more?) be missing at the apex? |
Well it's like this, the tower (mountain) is so high that it "touches"
the sky and the dimensions beyond it. The apex of the mountain is
probably found beyond the dimension of Nirn and in another dimension as
Sieg suggested.
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14.11.2006 15:48 |
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Greybeard
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So let's see if I have this correct: The Throat is a mountain high
enough that its apex is in another dimention, which makes it appear
sliced or broken off in this. The 7,000 steps lead up the mountain to
this area. There may or may not be a tower built on this plateau, which
houses the stone. The greybeards dwell on the sides of the mountain in
silence, but may be about to speak, and perhaps protect the apex.
I like the tower, esp. if the statues/icons represent the various
races. We might want to use Psychotic's transparent textures method on
the textures.
Offhand, I can envision dozens of quests just with the above landscape!
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14.11.2006 17:57 |
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Palad
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Ok, maybe I'm reaching here, but it would be amazing to climb that
mountain and get to the peak, then look up and the top is like water,
upside down as the tip stabs into the waves of reality. Threw the water
you could see the formation of another plane of existance, and a peak
of another mountain meeting the throat of the world, like a giant spike
between planes of existance. |
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14.11.2006 23:22 |
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Jagnot
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Ahh, ok. I understand now.
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15.11.2006 15:14 |
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Farfalo
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The Farfalonian returns with a model. It isn't the greatest, but it is
my basic outline from what I can see in the tower. Still need to add
windows and the little statues. 
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02.12.2006 00:43 |
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I think it should be less up and down, and have things jutting off and
side turrets with a bigger base. But over all it's looking good, create
a thread for it in the visual dev sub-forum.
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02.12.2006 00:55 |
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IAMTHEEMPEROR
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Just being a little annoying here... Red-Tower (Red Mountain) and
Walk-Brass (Numidium) are both towers, but, they have the same stone,
the Heart of Lorkhan, which means only one tower is active at a time
(until the Nerevarine took the Heart out and destroyed the power of
both)
I think it would be cool for the player to start climbing to the top,
then walk into clouds, and then be transported to a little bit out of
Nirn in the realm of Aurbis...WE'LL WALK TO THE MOONS!!!!! OMG, AN EPIC
QUEST! But, it would be easier to just have an unpassible effect at the
top that cuts it off.....
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Sigrid
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| experience at the throat of the world |
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Mounting the throat of the world above high Hrothgar, you pass a
development line as clear as the timber line far below you. Nothing
anyone made is here, in the mist which always wreathes the summit like
the your breath on the cold clear air. Ice-mist settles in your bones,
a grip like Death freezing that painful, long breath, small crystals
shattering against each other---the sound of an Ayleid well. Solid
ground always beneath your feet as you climb, but there are shapes in
the mist which never approach, and are never there when you arrive.
More of them move faster nearer the summit, whirl half-recognizable
around you, some hideous from the Wild Hunt of legend, some so
beautiful you stop very briefly to stare in wonder. Ever swirling,
faster as you near the top, with no wind at all they erase your
footsteps behind you. A sound, an exhalation, all words and none, so
soft there are no syllables or inflection, but clearly intention and
meaning, if you could but hear it clearly. Standing, finally, at the
apex, the eye of the ephemeral translucent storm, all sounds cease,
including your own. There is no sound here but blood, rushing to keep
your ears from freezing, rings in high oscillating tones crowding out
any others. So utterly still, and your life's blood sings so loud in
the unnatural quiet, nothing else you do is audible. Ringing constant
and loud now, only what you brought yourself, your body's need to stay
alive. Your life, here: you are life, here, where life became here,
now, and present. The ringing recedes slowly, stillness settles to an
icy death so very cold through your scant protection. It looks like the
shadows are looking at you, waiting to hear your breath form words in
this place, but you can't be sure.
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Richard
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07.03.2008 08:42 |
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Sigrid
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Will post it there, thanks.
I posted it here first because you all were talking about what the peak
of the Throat of the World was like. I was inspired by what
"half-there" might mean.
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