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Originally posted by Psychotic
All interiors and exteriors of Solstheim should be available for public
claiming. Once we have the models required they should be merged with
the main file and the file should be made available for internal
downloading. Merge your Horker skin tents with the Solstheim.esp once
you have finished them and put the ints for Thormoor's Watch up for
claiming.
You can do the exterior of Thormoor's Watch, but all other exterior locations should be opened for claiming.
Since it's better to have the all the land textures and all the rocks
and trees tweaked before any other statics are placed, interior work is
the best focus of our efforts atm (aka the tent ints for Thormoor's
Watch).
Also since we will need to place Greybeard's pointy rocks around the
island and since Cow has made some very nice land textures for us it
might be better if we generated all the land textures and statics from
scratch so the new rocks and land textures can be included... it would
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Yeah that's probably the best way to go, however I think it is still
best for one person to do all the exterior work (the stuff done by
hand) by one person, as Solstheim isn't that big and it means there
isn't as many bugs.
However we can always have someone else go over and chaeck that persons work.
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19.12.2006 03:50 |
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Psychotic
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
Yeah that's probably the best way to go, however I think it is still
best for one person to do all the exterior work (the stuff done by
hand) by one person, as Solstheim isn't that big and it means there
isn't as many bugs.
However we can always have someone else go over and chaeck that persons work. |
Maybe one person can tweak the land textures, trees, rocks etc, but the
settlements should be built by the community (there will be guidelines
of course).
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19.12.2006 04:01 |
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Originally posted by Psychotic
Maybe one person can tweak the land textures, trees, rocks etc, but the
settlements should be built by the community (there will be guidelines
of course). |
Yeah okay then.
I think very long ago I promised the Skaal village (or Thirsk?) to Greybeard, so he gets to pick from those.
Fort Frostmoth is unavalible for two reasons, one being that the area
of the MQ when the PC goes there needs to be finalised, and also Zarfs
tileset needs to be finished, with the ruined pieces.
Raven Rock is going to need to e done with someone who has BM because
the ruin pieces need to match the layout of BM. Also it can't be
claimed because the second MQ needs to be written out in full (The one
where the second Raven Rock gets made).
The Nord Camp is already being done by me, also the corresponding Nord
Horker Hunting ground is being made (like 3-5 tents) by me.
Then there is the connection of interiors to exteriors, which would be
done by me, as I'm handing merging, etc. Also the detailing of exterior
caves would be done by me.
Castle Karstaag still needs the exterior model (being done by Cow) but
that should be able to be granted to Somsone with no problems.
I think that is all...
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19.12.2006 04:10 |
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Psychotic
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I also promised Thirsk or the Skaal village to Sieg, so Grey and him will have to work out who gets what. 
The new settlement (the one owned by the Windhelm Nords) near the ruins
of Raven Rock can be claimed perhaps as it should probably use
Eastmarch architecture models.
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19.12.2006 04:27 |
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Siegfried
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I'll go with Thirsk if that's alright.
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19.12.2006 04:30 |
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Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim
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I'll do whatever is left (perhaps Fort Frostmoth once we have the models), but I insist on having something reserved. 
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19.12.2006 04:33 |
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Psychotic
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
Winterhold nords, not Windhelm Nords.
Winterhold is closer, and Windhelm is at constant skimishs with the Redoran (supposibly).
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I though you mentiond a Winhelm settelment too (hence your original settelment name idea "Windchild")?
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
I promised Greybeard his choice, which is out of Castle kasrstaag,
Thirsk and the Skaal village, and that was before you even joined
Psychotic 
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If it was before I joind then you were not yet a co-leader and it was not your right to promise anything to anyone.
I'm sure Grey and Sieg will work it out between them. 
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
Edit: Yeah I'll grant you Fort Frostmoth, as it's simple Psychotic and hopefully you won't screw it up that badly 
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Sorry, I don't see the humor in that.
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19.12.2006 04:45 |
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Originally posted by Psychotic
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
Winterhold nords, not Windhelm Nords.
Winterhold is closer, and Windhelm is at constant skimishs with the Redoran (supposibly).
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I though you mentiond a Winhelm settelment too (hence your original settelment name idea "Windchild")?
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
I promised Greybeard his choice, which is out of Castle kasrstaag,
Thirsk and the Skaal village, and that was before you even joined
Psychotic
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If it was before I joind then you were not yet a co-leader and it was not your right to promise anything to anyone.
I'm sure Grey and Sieg will work it out between them.
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
Edit: Yeah I'll grant you Fort Frostmoth, as it's simple Psychotic and hopefully you won't screw it up that badly
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Sorry, I don't see the humor in that. |
Actually Solstheim has always been under my control, even when I wasn't
Co-Leader (look back in the thread in the * sub-forum) and it was even
discussed that I might get my own forums for it, but that never
happend, and Siegfried had no problem with me granting things out
because it was my own side child project of Skyrim.
Also you had no right to Grant out Siegfired anything, especialy
privatly via PM and even more so without informing me as your Co-Leader
you had done so privatly, and also because Solstheim is under my
control (to a certain extent), like you are incharge of the Winterhold
area.
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19.12.2006 04:49 |
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Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
Actually Solstheim has always been under my control, even when I wasn't
Co-Leader (look back in the thread in the * sub-forum) and it was even
discussed that I might get my own forums for it, but that never
happend, and Siegfried had no problem with me granting things out
because it was my own side child project of Skyrim.
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Sieg will have to confirm the validity of that claim as from what I
remember Solstheim was originaly to be included in the Vvardenfell mod.
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
Also you had no right to Grant out Siegfired anything, especialy
privatly via PM and even more so without informing me as your Co-Leader
you had done so privatly, and also because Solstheim is under my
control (to a certain extent), like you are incharge of the Winterhold
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And I didn't grant anything, Sieg asked me if he could work on it and I
said yes... as long as he officially claims it once the claim is up.
You are already in charge of Eastmarch and Falkhreat (max region claims
per person as far as I'm concerned), Solstheim is to be made by the
team as a whole, only the quest lines for it are claimed by you.
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19.12.2006 04:58 |
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Originally posted by Psychotic
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
Actually Solstheim has always been under my control, even when I wasn't
Co-Leader (look back in the thread in the * sub-forum) and it was even
discussed that I might get my own forums for it, but that never
happend, and Siegfried had no problem with me granting things out
because it was my own side child project of Skyrim.
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Sieg will have to confirm the validity of that claim as from what I
remember Solstheim was originaly to be included in the Vvardenfell mod.
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
Also you had no right to Grant out Siegfired anything, especialy
privatly via PM and even more so without informing me as your Co-Leader
you had done so privatly, and also because Solstheim is under my
control (to a certain extent), like you are incharge of the Winterhold
area. |
And I didn't grant anything, Sieg asked me if he could work on it and I
said yes... as long as he officially claims it once the claim is up.
You are already in charge of Eastmarch and Falkhreat (max region claims
per person as far as I'm concerned), Solstheim is to be made by the
team as a whole, only the quest lines for it are claimed by you. |
Look in the * sub-Forum for my Solsthiem thread, and no it was not the
Vv area. Also Solstheim is actualy under my control, just like any
other region of Skyrim there is a lead modder. I grant claims and hand
them out, also I'm going to be giving Falkreath onto another person
soon (probably Richard if he is interested) so
Please be more respectful of peoples claims, go do some Winterhold area stuff
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19.12.2006 05:03 |
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Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim
Registration Date: 30.07.2006
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Location: Sheogorath's Realm
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
Look in the * sub-Forum for my Solsthiem thread, and no it was not the
Vv area. Also Solstheim is actualy under my control, just like any
other region of Skyrim there is a lead modder. I grant claims and hand
them out, also I'm going to be giving Falkreath onto another person
soon (probably Richard if he is interested) so
Please be more respectful of peoples claims, go do some Winterhold area stuff
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I don't care who the lead modder is as long as all areas are opened for claiming.
You have my apology if I somehow offended you with my remarks, but you
have been griping Solstheim a bit too tightly. If you decide to
un-claim Falkhreat then feel free to lead the work on Solstheim...
within reason.
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19.12.2006 05:18 |
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Originally posted by Psychotic
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
Look in the * sub-Forum for my Solsthiem thread, and no it was not the
Vv area. Also Solstheim is actualy under my control, just like any
other region of Skyrim there is a lead modder. I grant claims and hand
them out, also I'm going to be giving Falkreath onto another person
soon (probably Richard if he is interested) so
Please be more respectful of peoples claims, go do some Winterhold area stuff
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I don't care who the lead modder is as long as all areas are opened for claiming.
You have my apology if I somehow offended you with my remarks, but you
have been griping Solstheim a bit too tightly. If you decide to
un-claim Falkhreat then feel free to lead the work on Solstheim...
within reason. |
Work on Falkreath won't start yet anyway, because it'll slow down other
areas. But I have already been leading work on Solstheim anyway
and have been from the start.
Also I accept your apoloogy, it's not your fault you haven't been
around as long as me (stokes his beard, and yes I do have a beard
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Edit: I think that in terms of progress it might be better to add in
extra models as we go, even if it means adding them in slowly over the
Island, as we are geting models made as we go. Also it doesn't take
that long to add in models over the Island, for most people anyway
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19.12.2006 05:21 |
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Greybeard
Chieftain of Skyrim
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My ears were burning, so I thought I'd better check this thread. 
If I remember correctly, I was offered the towns, but that was back
when I was heavily involved with HG and I passes (sort of). I've no
problem letting Sieg and Psych have them if they want. I can always
help out in both. Leadership isn't something that I obsess about. 
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20.12.2006 17:58 |
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Originally posted by Greybeard
My ears were burning, so I thought I'd better check this thread.
If I remember correctly, I was offered the towns, but that was back
when I was heavily involved with HG and I passes (sort of). I've no
problem letting Sieg and Psych have them if they want. I can always
help out in both. Leadership isn't something that I obsess about.
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There is three up for claiming, don't be so modest.
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20.12.2006 18:19 |
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Greybeard
Chieftain of Skyrim
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Location: Shannara
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TOYB, you asked for some Stones of the Skaal. Well, I dug out Morrowind
and Bloodmoon, and couldn't find a mesh or texture for it. I couldn't
find a pic on the internet, either (HELP! Siesta "Google" Guru). Could
you give me some idea what they should look like? Thanks! |
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24.12.2006 17:05 |
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Alasdair
Jarl of Skyrim
Registration Date: 29.08.2006
Posts: 1,169
Location: Somerset, England
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Not sure what you mean by Stones of the Skaal but here's a picture
(left) of the element type stones, wind/water/beast etc. The Skaal also
had stones like the picture on the right.
 
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24.12.2006 18:25 |
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Yeah those frst stones are what I meant, but those smaller ones are needed too.
Production on this will resume shortly, I'm celebrating Xmas with my
family right now (Not celebrating the birth of Jesus, because I'm
Buddhist, but the death of santa), and I'm also recovering from my
betrayl. Also I see can't the Solstheim threads in the inner core forum
anymore because of the fact I was booted, so some planning done by me
will have to be re-planned.
TOYB
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24.12.2006 19:52 |
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Liquid Cheese
Elder of Skyrim
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Location: England
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24.12.2006 19:54 |
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Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim
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Booted? What happened? |
Didn't you get my PM? 
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24.12.2006 20:03 |
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Greybeard
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Thanks for the pic's, Alasdair. They shouldn't be hard to reproduce.
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Alasdair
Jarl of Skyrim
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19.01.2007 16:49 |
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Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim
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Any updates TOYB? |
TOYB is on holiday for a few weeks I believe.
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19.01.2007 17:10 |
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Yep I'll be back around the 31st, and I'm still waiting upon new rock
models from GB and Entartets Skaal Architecture so that I don't have to
continually update the master file.
I've still got internet access though
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19.01.2007 21:57 |
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Liquid Cheese
Elder of Skyrim
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Could you possibly upload what you have now so I can get some footage.
It doesn't matter how far along you are, this is mainly for the
landscape. |
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05.04.2007 21:03 |
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Alasdair
Jarl of Skyrim
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TOYB should have the latest version, but I uploaded an older version on
the outer core boards a few days ago, which you could use. |
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05.04.2007 21:55 |
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Liquid Cheese
Elder of Skyrim
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Sorry. I should have remembered. I'm overworked and tired. What would
be the best way of getting there? 'cow solstheim 0, 0'?
Cheers.
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Alasdair
Jarl of Skyrim
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I honestly can't remember what I named the landmass, it'll be either:
cow "solstheim", 0, 0
cow "1SKsolstheim", 0, 0
cow "1SKxxAASolstheim", 0, 0
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cow "1SKxxAAxSolstheim", 0, 0
I think it's the second, or maybe the first.
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05.04.2007 23:05 |
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Work hasn't proceded on Solstheim for awhile because I'm waiting for
assets still :[ Your best just to use the older version (The only
differnce is that in my version it's slightly more detailed, and
missing cells have been fixed, but if your doing over views, and are
only filming selected areas you won't see a differnce).
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05.04.2007 23:14 |
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Liquid Cheese
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It is 1sksolstheim, but I only know this because I checked in the CS,
I'm probably doing something noobishly wrong, but I can't get there.
typing it in the console is giving the message
'Item 1sksolstheim not found in worldspace perameter' or something to
that effect. I have set it up the same way as I did for Skyrim.esm and
simply just extracted it to the data folder and then used the console
to get there. I tried checking it in the data files bit too, just to
make sure I was typing everything in correctly, and I teleported there
fine this time, except I got the old disappearing floors because of
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06.04.2007 15:20 |
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Alasdair
Jarl of Skyrim
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Try disabling everything except that isn't neccessary for solstheim to
run (i.e only use SkyrimResourceMaster.esm Solstheim04.esm and
Oblivion.esm). Watch out though - the game may decide to do something
weird, like display Skyrim's LOD instead of solstheims (that's what it
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06.04.2007 16:29 |
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I'm guessing your having load order problems. Try OBMM to fix it.
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06.04.2007 23:50 |
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Liquid Cheese
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
I created an esp that was reliant on Solstheim04.esm which actually
allowed me to visit solstheim, however for some reason the solstheim
heightmap and the skyrim heightmap have been mixed together, creating
all sort of visual effects.
This may be what you were describing, alasdair.
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disabling everything except that isn't neccessary for solstheim to run
(i.e only use SkyrimResourceMaster.esm Solstheim04.esm and
Oblivion.esm). Watch out though - the game may decide to do something
weird, like display Skyrim's LOD instead of solstheims (that's what it
did to me). |
When you say only use SkyrimResourceMaster.esm Solstheim04.esm and Oblivion.esm, won't that give me the missing floor thing?
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07.04.2007 20:28 |
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Alasdair
Jarl of Skyrim
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Yeah, those are the only files you should need to activate
However the game gets confused, and will display Skyrim's LOD as well
as solstheims. I would imagine you need to remove the Skyrim LOD files
from the LOD folder.
All this will be fixed when we release it.
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07.04.2007 20:39 |
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Alasdair
Jarl of Skyrim
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Well, I have LOD for solstheim, but i'm not sure whether I uploaded it or not.
What you could do is visit Solstheim, but turn of LOD in-game and take the video without it.
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07.04.2007 21:30 |
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Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim
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I encountered something interesting on ESF (BSF)... Solstheim Recreated
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