Silgrad Tower: Oblivion | Skyrim Quests | Brainstorm, Getting to Solstheim

Silgrad Tower: Oblivion » Beyond Cyrodiil » Skyrim for Oblivion » Skyrim Quests » Brainstorm, Getting to Solstheim

» Hello You

Last Post | First Unread Post

Print Page | Recommend to a Friend | Add Thread to Favorites

Pages (2): [1] 2 next »

Brainstorm, Getting to Solstheim

Author

Post

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

The Old Ye Bard
Princess

Registration Date: 25.05.2006
Posts: 3,396

Brainstorm, Getting to Solstheim

A few things that have all ready been decided:

*The player can get to Solstheim without using the main Skyrim mod.

*The player will travel from the Imperial City to Solstheim.

*The person who takes the player to Solstheim is one of the people on the Imperial city docks who came from Raven Rock.

*The ship docks at the ruined Raven Rock.

What needs to be discussed:

*Why the person from Raven Rock needs to travel back there and why they take the player.

Prehaps he needs funding to get back to Solstheim and asks the player to fund him, prehaps the reason for going back is that he left something there or a friend never turned up in the Imperial City.

*What things do we want to include in the quest getting to Solstheim?

I think that to have a movie of the ship taaveling at night in a storm when the PC is traveling to Solstheim would be cool, also a flash-back of Hircine saying "The Bloodmoon will rise agin..." (from the end of the BM main quest) is a must.

Anymore ideas and concepts are appreciated Yes

TOYB

17.12.2006 07:08

-Sulan-
Chieftain of Skyrim

Registration Date: 06.03.2006
Posts: 443
Location: Sweden

That the guy needs funding sounds good I think as does that he forgot something there, he might be alittle surprised when it turns out that the PC wants to come along...

17.12.2006 07:17

The Old Ye Bard
Princess

Registration Date: 25.05.2006
Posts: 3,396

quote:

Originally posted by -Sulan-
That the guy needs funding sounds good I think as does that he forgot something there, he might be alittle surprised when it turns out that the PC wants to come along...

Well by funraising, maybe it means buying the ship.

Also the guy is going to be dissapointed when he finds Raven Rock completly charred :lmao:

So maybe because of that he stays on as the players captain getting him back and forth from Solstheim.

17.12.2006 07:20

Richard
Chieftain of Skyrim

Registration Date: 23.08.2006
Posts: 747
Location: Invercargill, New Zealand

So there will be like a separate 'Solstheim for Oblivion' mod? I like that idea (except adding an extra ship will conflict with my modified Cyrodiil Transportation Network mod) =(

Solstheim will be accessable from a ship in Windhelm or something in the main mod too though right?

17.12.2006 07:57

The Old Ye Bard
Princess

Registration Date: 25.05.2006
Posts: 3,396

quote:

Originally posted by Richard
So there will be like a separate 'Solstheim for Oblivion' mod? I like that idea (except adding an extra ship will conflict with my modified Cyrodiil Transportation Network mod) =(

Solstheim will be accessable from a ship in Windhelm or something in the main mod too though right?

Yeah the PC will be able to get to Skyrim via Skyrim, but Skyrim won't be needed.

I think we will make two files,

1. Just Solstheim.

2. Solstheim + Skyrim.

17.12.2006 08:02

Gustave
Elder of Skyrim

Registration Date: 18.11.2006
Posts: 81

How about the man needs to return to Raven Rock for a friend.

His own ship was damaged on his journey to the Imperial City. The ship was able to get as far as the Niben Bay before taking on too much water. He beached the ship in shallow waters of the bay where it awaits repairs. He lacks the funding to repair the ship, supplies and crew payment.

The player could:
1. Come up with the money for the man in return for free passage in the future or cheaper passage. This could be explained that the man makes regular runs to Soltheim-Imperial City for whatever reason.

2. Persuade a noble, a company (mining company, fur company etc) to fund it, maybe get the funding from someone that needs to smuggle some goods or escape Tamriel.

17.12.2006 08:08

The Old Ye Bard
Princess

Registration Date: 25.05.2006
Posts: 3,396

quote:

Originally posted by Gustave
How about the man needs to return to Raven Rock for a friend.

His own ship was damaged on his journey to the Imperial City. The ship was able to get as far as the Niben Bay before taking on too much water. He beached the ship in shallow waters of the bay where it awaits repairs. He lacks the funding to repair the ship, supplies and crew payment.

The player could:
1. Come up with the money for the man in return for free passage in the future or cheaper passage. This could be explained that the man makes regular runs to Soltheim-Imperial City for whatever reason.

2. Persuade a noble, a company (mining company, fur company etc) to fund it, maybe get the funding from someone that needs to smuggle some goods or escape Tamriel.

The person already has a back story of being a miner at Raven Rock, and we can't change that because it's in stock OB Wink

17.12.2006 08:15

Smokindan
Chieftain of Skyrim

Registration Date: 13.06.2006
Posts: 813
Location: Western Australia, Australia

We can make a new NPC....

__________________
I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.
Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.
->Sir Winston Churchill

17.12.2006 09:48

-Sulan-
Chieftain of Skyrim

Registration Date: 06.03.2006
Posts: 443
Location: Sweden

quote:

Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard

quote:

Well by funraising, maybe it means buying the ship.

Also the guy is going to be dissapointed when he finds Raven Rock completly charred :lmao:

So maybe because of that he stays on as the players captain getting him back and forth from Solstheim.

Seems unlikely that he?d become a captain after one trip. The ship you take should allready have a captain and some crew, perhaps there could be a mini quest to find a ship and crew and come to an agreement...
Allways fun to deal with old drunken seamen

17.12.2006 12:15

Richard
Chieftain of Skyrim

Registration Date: 23.08.2006
Posts: 747
Location: Invercargill, New Zealand

And don't forget to give the ship wheels so it can get past Leyawiin. (Smart people like me go into the CS and dig a trench and put a floating bridge across it for our games Yes

)

This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by Richard: 17.12.2006 13:17.

17.12.2006 13:16

unholyalliance
First Knight

Registration Date: 21.07.2006
Posts: 178
Location: Kolding, Denmark

There is that man in the Imperial City Waterfront, who says he has had a bad run in with the law. Perhaps he could take you there, but then has to leave quickly (thats if there are still imperialson the island). He did say he was going to The Imperial Reserve...

__________________
And Dim The Hearts That Slowly Die
And Drear The Course
That Has Been Run
Setting In A Sullen Sky
Comes With Might The
Wintersun - Jari Maenpaa

17.12.2006 14:19

The Old Ye Bard
Princess

Registration Date: 25.05.2006
Posts: 3,396

All forms of Imperialism has gone from Solstheim.

17.12.2006 19:02

Skot the Sanguine
Knight

Registration Date: 11.10.2006
Posts: 93
Location: New York, USA

Maybe make him a cousin of Falco who wants to find out what happened to the man. I would say that it would be cool to then make a small quest about finding Falco (such as running off into the wild when Raven Rock was torched) but that makes the assumtion that you didn't play the evil side of the Raven Rock quest... Maybe have it so you never really find out? You still have the excuse to get there

__________________
That which does not kill me only delays the inevitable.

18.12.2006 21:04

Add Skot the Sanguine to your Buddy List

The Old Ye Bard
Princess

Registration Date: 25.05.2006
Posts: 3,396

quote:

Originally posted by Skot the Sanguine
Maybe make him a cousin of Falco who wants to find out what happened to the man. I would say that it would be cool to then make a small quest about finding Falco (such as running off into the wild when Raven Rock was torched) but that makes the assumtion that you didn't play the evil side of the Raven Rock quest... Maybe have it so you never really find out? You still have the excuse to get there

There will be little left of Raven Rock and no quests to follow up on what happened (You just find out via rumours about what the nords did to it) to make sure there isn't any problems with conflicts with the EEC quests from Bloodmoon.

Also we are nto changing the back story of the person who came from Raven Rock, that has already been said.

18.12.2006 21:09

Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim

Registration Date: 30.07.2006
Posts: 3,420
Location: Sheogorath's Realm

quote:

Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
Also we are nto changing the back story of the person who came from Raven Rock, that has already been said.

There is a difference between adding to the back-story and changing it.

Also it is quite possible to make a new NPC.

19.12.2006 00:53

Siegfried
Archduke

Registration Date: 07.03.2006
Posts: 2,598
Location: With Your Mom...

Personally I would really like to bring Falco back somehow.

19.12.2006 02:09

The Old Ye Bard
Princess

Registration Date: 25.05.2006
Posts: 3,396

quote:

Originally posted by Siegfried
Personally I would really like to bring Falco back somehow.

It ruins it for players who killed him during their questline in BM, Raven Rock is totally destroyed and it was abanddoned before hand so noone from Raven Rock will be present (unless we find some in Raven Rock who disn't have that much of a back story in BM and we stick him in Thirsk).

19.12.2006 03:47

candlemaster
Warder

Registration Date: 01.07.2006
Posts: 49
Location: The frozen wastelands of Canada...

Maybe Raven Rock was attack by [group name], and he somehow managed to escape, then he went to the Imperial City looking for someone strong enough to escort him back home?

__________________
"I am the shadow, the keeper of light. If you want the sun's power, you must first show me yours"
-Dullahan, Golden Sun: The Lost Age.

This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by candlemaster: 19.12.2006 03:53.

19.12.2006 03:52

Siegfried
Archduke

Registration Date: 07.03.2006
Posts: 2,598
Location: With Your Mom...

Having him gone ruins it for players that didn't kill him Tongue

Maybe he's hiding out in the wilderness in some cave, holding out against the Nord invaders? Also, doesn't Beth have a policy about Morrowind NPCs how if you weren't forced to kill them, they're for all intents and purposes living in Oblivion? How many different people brutally slaughtered Vivec in Morrowind, but in Oblivion's lore it doesn't say that he was killed by the Nerevarine. There weren't cries of rage about that were there?

19.12.2006 03:53

The Old Ye Bard
Princess

Registration Date: 25.05.2006
Posts: 3,396

The fact that Raven Rock is burned and abandoned, aswell as all of it's Npcs dead or have fled to other places isn't up for debate.

Having Falco on the island ruins it for players, the best way to handle the situation is to not put him on the Island at all, if people did not kill him in BM, then they assume he was either killed by Nords or ran away. If they killed him in BM, they killed him in BM Wink

19.12.2006 03:58

cow1787
First Knight

Registration Date: 20.05.2006
Posts: 133
Location: Raleigh, NC

Maybe the guy that takes you to Solstheim came to Cyrodiil to speak with the Elder Council for something (a problem of sorts?), and is now returning to Solstheim to give the news or resolve whatever the conflict may be, and maybe he asks you for help?

__________________
.Make Art Not War.

19.12.2006 08:29

The Old Ye Bard
Princess

Registration Date: 25.05.2006
Posts: 3,396

quote:

Originally posted by cow1787
Maybe the guy that takes you to Solstheim came to Cyrodiil to speak with the Elder Council for something (a problem of sorts?), and is now returning to Solstheim to give the news or resolve whatever the conflict may be, and maybe he asks you for help?

There wouldn't be anyone left on Sosltheim to leave for Cyrodiil. Also the person on thewaterfront is very poor, and was from Raven Rock.

19.12.2006 08:44

Siesta Guru
Elder of Skyrim

Registration Date: 15.10.2006
Posts: 516
Location: Sleeping in a bar

Maybe he has lived in waterfront for years but he hears about some family troubles so he gets back to home?

__________________
ou av andanyammis Pleased

19.12.2006 08:56

The Old Ye Bard
Princess

Registration Date: 25.05.2006
Posts: 3,396

quote:

Originally posted by Siesta Guru
Maybe he has lived in waterfront for years but he hears about some family troubles so he gets back to home?

Raven Rock wasn't there long enough to have familys there, like proper ones, also Raven Rock was more of a miner settlement, like the sorta of ones fathers would travel to and send back money to their familys, etc.

19.12.2006 09:02

Siesta Guru
Elder of Skyrim

Registration Date: 15.10.2006
Posts: 516
Location: Sleeping in a bar

Hmm, maybe there has been found gold in the mine, and he returns to get rich?

__________________
ou av andanyammis Pleased

19.12.2006 09:15

Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim

Registration Date: 30.07.2006
Posts: 3,420
Location: Sheogorath's Realm

quote:

Hmm, maybe there has been found gold in the mine, and he returns to get rich?

Just what I was about to propose (sort of). Yes

The guy had a bad run in with the law right? What if the reason for that is a smuggling job or something that he got involved in while on Solstheim. The miners at Raven Rock were not paid very well so the guy decided to make some money on the side. The Imperial authorities eventually found out what he was up to and made an attempt to arrest him, but he managed to get away and boarded the last transport from Raven Rock to Cyrodiil, eventually ending up in the Waterfront so he can keep a low profile (plus there's some very cheap housing there

).

Now the problem is that the guy didn't have enough time to collect his "honest" earnings from his hidden stash because the Imperials were on his tail. Now that the Imperials have left Solstheim he can go back there to get his gold without any risk... but he's broke so he can't. But no one travels to Solstheim anymore so he asks you (the player) to finance his trip since you have the look of an "enterprising adventurer"... naturally he promises you a share of the hidden gold once it is retrieved.

When you get to Solstheim the guy tells you that he hid his gold somewhere in the depths of the Raven Rock ebony mine... and it's just your luck that the mine is now full of undead miners. Since you are the adventurer (and since no one else would be crazy enough) the guy asks you to go into the mine and find his hidden stash of gold. He promises an even bigger share of the gold if you agree to get it, but you also have the choice to leave the guy right then and there (never knowing if you could have gotten rich by finding all that hidden gold).

If you agree to get the gold you simply enter the mine, kill a bunch of undead and search trough a lot of hollow rocks for the stash. Once you find the stash you exit the cave and the guy immediately enters into dialog mode with you. He asks you if you found his gold and then you have a choice of several answers:
A) No, I couldn't find anything. (the guy gets a bit suspicious and if your speechcraft skill is too low he will attack you because he thinks you are trying to deceive him and run away with his gold)
B) Yes, here it is. (you give him the agreed upon part of the gold and you keep the rest)
C) Yes, but I demand a bigger share! (if your mercantile skill is high enough you persuade the guy that you risked your life for that gold and therefore deserve a bigger share. If not then the guy gets a bit angry and simply refuses you.)
D) Yes, but I decided to keep all of it. (the guy says that you are a deceitful scumbag and attacks you)

If option C) fails you get to choose from options B) and D).

So there you go, a neat little quest for getting to Solstheim with a few choices to make along the way.

This post has been edited 4 time(s), it was last edited by Psychotic: 19.12.2006 13:20.

19.12.2006 13:15

Siesta Guru
Elder of Skyrim

Registration Date: 15.10.2006
Posts: 516
Location: Sleeping in a bar

I like it

way better then mine

__________________
ou av andanyammis Pleased

19.12.2006 13:35

The Old Ye Bard
Princess

Registration Date: 25.05.2006
Posts: 3,396

Finally one that makes sense Good job!

19.12.2006 18:50

Liquid Cheese
Elder of Skyrim

Registration Date: 24.07.2006
Posts: 624
Location: England

Yea this makes sense.

19.12.2006 19:58

Richard
Chieftain of Skyrim

Registration Date: 23.08.2006
Posts: 747
Location: Invercargill, New Zealand

Rad.

What about the boat though? Who's boat will you sail on? There'll have to be a new one added I guess. Although sailing from the IC to Solstheim is one hell of a trip.

20.12.2006 15:00

Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim

Registration Date: 30.07.2006
Posts: 3,420
Location: Sheogorath's Realm

quote:

Originally posted by Richard
Rad.

What about the boat though? Who's boat will you sail on? There'll have to be a new one added I guess. Although sailing from the IC to Solstheim is one hell of a trip.

The boat can be owned by some random captain who's sailing to Vvardenfell. You'll have to pay him a decent amount of gold in order to persuade him to make a detour to Solstheim.

As the IC docks are a bit crowded the boat can be located near Leyawiin. You'll meet with the outcast guy at the waterfront first, but he will tell you that he knows a captain who recently arrived in Leyawiin that might be able to take you to Solstheim for the right price.

20.12.2006 15:12

The Old Ye Bard
Princess

Registration Date: 25.05.2006
Posts: 3,396

quote:

Originally posted by Psychotic

quote:

I think it is better if you funraise the guy on water fronts expedition to go to Solstheim, also we don't have to have the boat on the waterfront, becuase it would probably be taxed anyway so we could have it anchored a little way off. Also so you can get back and forth you'll probably need to buy the boat, so having someone go by Vv won't work.

20.12.2006 18:16

Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim

Registration Date: 30.07.2006
Posts: 3,420
Location: Sheogorath's Realm

quote:

Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
I think it is better if you funraise the guy on water fronts expedition to go to Solstheim, also we don't have to have the boat on the waterfront, becuase it would probably be taxed anyway so we could have it anchored a little way off. Also so you can get back and forth you'll probably need to buy the boat, so having someone go by Vv won't work.

Buying a boat big enough to make the trip would be REALLY expensive, more expensive than what the hidden gold could cover.

There are two options:
- Convince someone who already has a boat to take you to Solstheim and commit to going back and forth for whatever reason.
- Find someone else that can take you back and forth once you get to Solstheim.

21.12.2006 00:51

The Old Ye Bard
Princess

Registration Date: 25.05.2006
Posts: 3,396

quote:

Originally posted by Psychotic

quote:

Prehaps the boat is a complete wreck, or you get the boat via a quest or something.

21.12.2006 05:01

Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim

Registration Date: 30.07.2006
Posts: 3,420
Location: Sheogorath's Realm

quote:

Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard

quote:

Originally posted by Psychotic

quote:

Prehaps the boat is a complete wreck, or you get the boat via a quest or something.

If it is a wreck I doubt it would make it all the way to Solstheim, but perhaps you won't have to spend any (or much) gold on it, aka a quest... like you said.

Say you win the boat in a duel/horse race/random challenge?

Though if you do get to own a boat it would be a bit strange that you only get to use it to travel to between Solstheim and Cyrodiil.

21.12.2006 05:13

The Old Ye Bard
Princess

Registration Date: 25.05.2006
Posts: 3,396

quote:

Originally posted by Psychotic

quote:

Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard

quote:

Originally posted by Psychotic

quote:

Prehaps the boat is a complete wreck, or you get the boat via a quest or something.

Well maybe that's the only place the captain wants to take you (like he's really stubborn or something, like a full on drunk who thinks that the only reason for sailing is sailing around half of Tamriel, risking life and limb).

21.12.2006 05:20

Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim

Registration Date: 30.07.2006
Posts: 3,420
Location: Sheogorath's Realm

quote:

Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
Well maybe that's the only place the captain wants to take you (like he's really stubborn or something, like a full on drunk who thinks that the only reason for sailing is sailing around half of Tamriel, risking life and limb).

Maybe... but I think we can come up with something a bit better (though I'm out of ideas atm).

21.12.2006 05:28

The Old Ye Bard
Princess

Registration Date: 25.05.2006
Posts: 3,396

quote:

Originally posted by Psychotic

quote:

Maybe... but I think we can come up with something a bit better (though I'm out of ideas atm).

Come on, an old drunken Sailor (or pirate?) who is crazy and will only risk life and limb if he sails is a great idea!

21.12.2006 05:31

Psychotic
Jarl of Skyrim

Registration Date: 30.07.2006
Posts: 3,420
Location: Sheogorath's Realm

quote:

Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard

quote:

Originally posted by Psychotic

quote:

Maybe... but I think we can come up with something a bit better (though I'm out of ideas atm).

Come on, an old drunken Sailor (or pirate?) who is crazy and will only risk life and limb if he sails is a great idea!

Yeah ok, but why only between Cyrodiil and Solstheim?

21.12.2006 05:34

The Old Ye Bard
Princess

Registration Date: 25.05.2006
Posts: 3,396

quote:

Originally posted by Psychotic

quote:

Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard

quote:

Originally posted by Psychotic

quote:

Maybe... but I think we can come up with something a bit better (though I'm out of ideas atm).

Come on, an old drunken Sailor (or pirate?) who is crazy and will only risk life and limb if he sails is a great idea!

Yeah ok, but why only between Cyrodiil and Solstheim?

because it is the biggest distance from Cyrodiil to anywhere in the empire Wink

21.12.2006 05:43

Pages (2): [1] 2 next »

Tree Structure | Board Structure

Silgrad Tower: Oblivion » Beyond Cyrodiil » Skyrim for Oblivion » Skyrim Quests » Brainstorm, Getting to Solstheim

This is an archived forum section of Silgrad Tower Forum.