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Ibsen's Ghost
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Hello all,
You may or may not know me but I'm recording the generic lines for
Nords in the Silgrad Tower project. As I was working on the khajiit
lines too, I was asked by Jha'Kha'jay to record some more MW-friendly
lines that gave the khajiit a little extra character.
You may or may not also know that the accent I am using for the Nords
is Scottish. If a true Scandinavian steps up to the plate then we can
record some regional variants of the generic dialogue but, for the time
being, it will be just my Scottish Nord. Speak to SACarrow if you need
to know more.
Anyway, I am presently in the process of reviewing the lines for the
Nords. The script-reworking is not going to be extensive, just a few
additions here and there. The khajiit have references to 'sugar and
sand' and refer to 'me' and 'you' as 'jaji / this one' and 'jajo / that
one' but this is what I have come up with so far for the Nords:
INSULTS - "Get yourself adrift on the Sea of Ghosts!"
THREAT - "Thu'um rain down on your head!"
EXCLAMATION - "By the bones of Ysgramor", "Blood of Ysgramor!"
WAR CRY WHEN FIGHTING ALTMER - Justice for the Night of Tears!
Many of the lines will have variations on a series of themes according
to their use in the game such as: "fire and ice of Atmora", "rest in
the halls of the Nedic" (particularly for those recently deceased) and
"strong as Riften (or Windhelm) Oak". These currently fit a number of
uses for the lines as they appear in the persuasion game, in combat
situations and so on.
Any suggestions would be gratefully received and I hope that, in future, you will enjoy using my Nord voice files.
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Scottish is completly alright for Nords, it was actually the oringinal
accent used for the (partially Colovian) Nord in Redguard (yes, there
was only one), before Morrowind was released.
Oh, and add "By the Cliffs of Solitude!" as an exclamation (a saying that dates back to Arena).
"rest in the halls of the Nedic" - I would change that to the '- halls of Shor' instead.
"Thu'um rain down on your head!" - Thu'um is Nordic voice magic, and it
seems strange to use it that way in a sentance, more logically,
something like "I'll shout your face in so far, it'll be comming out
your arse", which imo think fits the sterotypical nord better aswell.
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Ibsen's Ghost
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Thanks for the suggestions and the heads-up about the Thu'um line!
I've changed that one so that it now reads: "Wither under the winds of Thu'um!" Do you think that will suit okay?
Anyone have any more suggestions before I go ahead and commit these to a recording?
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Originally posted by Ibsen's Ghost
Thanks for the suggestions and the heads-up about the Thu'um line!
I've changed that one so that it now reads: "Wither under the winds of Thu'um!" Do you think that will suit okay?
Anyone have any more suggestions before I go ahead and commit these to a recording? |
I would say that usage is to mellow, and it's grammatically incorrect anyway (it should be 'of the Thu'um').
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Ibsen's Ghost
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Originally posted by The Old Ye Bard
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Originally posted by Ibsen's Ghost
Thanks for the suggestions and the heads-up about the Thu'um line!
I've changed that one so that it now reads: "Wither under the winds of Thu'um!" Do you think that will suit okay?
Anyone have any more suggestions before I go ahead and commit these to a recording? |
I would say that usage is to mellow, and it's grammatically incorrect anyway (it should be 'of the Thu'um'). |
I was trying to get at the old 'fire and ice' thing again. I used to be
a big fan of Swedish Metal, especially the band Bathory, who often
included ancient Nordic legend and culture in their songs. Elements
such as these are often used in various metaphorical/metaphysical
contexts. Nonetheless, I take your point. How do you think a good old
bellow of "Thuuuuuu'uuuuuummm" would go down?
NB: - I'd need everyone out of my house before I recorded such a
line or they might think I needed medical or psychological attention
and call for an ambulance.
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Ibsen's Ghost
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Hello all,
This is just a quick FYI notice cut and pasted from my review of the generic Nord Battle & Persuasion lines:
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ALTERED LINES
StGeneric_BOASTLOVE_00062313_1 That's amazing! (or, "By the bones of Ysgramor, that's amazing!")
StGeneric_BOASTHATE_0018B2B5_1 You're full of it. (or, "By the Cliffs of Solitude, you're boring me senseless")
StGeneric_Attack_000242DC_1 Anger:50 "Hurh!" (or, "Thuuuuuu'uuuuumm!!!")
StGeneric_Attack_00023EC3_1 Anger:50 "Die, cur!" ("By the bones of Ysgramor!")
StGeneric_Attack_0018D269_1 Anger:50 "Grrrr!" (or, "By the blood of Ysgramor!")
StGeneric_Attack_0018D2B9_1 Neutral:50 "Do your worst!" (or, "I'll set you adrift on the Sea of Ghosts!")
StGeneric_Attack_0018BD7B_1 Anger:50 "You're outmatched, Elf!" (or, "You Elves are all the same! All flash and no fury!")
StGeneric_Attack_0018BD68_1 Anger:100 "You Elves are all the same! All
flash and no fury!" (or, "Justice for the Night of Tears!")
StGeneric_Flee_000251A4_1 Fear:50 "I give up!" (or, "Oh, for the solace of Atmora!")
StGeneric_Assault_000624FF_1 Surprise:50 "By the Nine Divines! Assault!
Assault!" (or, "By the fire and ice of Atmora! Assault! Assault!")
StGeneric_AssaultNoCrime_00066338_1 Surprise:100 "You dare attack me?"
(or, "Hey, watch it! My sword arm is as strong as Riften Oak!")
ADDITIONAL LINES
StGeneric_Murder_0009EA82_2 Fear:75 "Help! Call the Inspector! There's
been a murder!" (this is here simply because I like the Scottish TV
detective series, Taggart and this is sort of a catchphrase for it -
it's an optional line!)
StGeneric_MurderNoCrime_00062507_1 Neutral:50 "Rest in the halls of Shor." |
I'm hoping I'll have time to get these recorded tomorrow. I'll post up
a few samples, if you like, to show you how it's getting on. I've tried
not to intervene with new lines too much but so far it's only for these
two types of lines. If anyone thinks that the context is wrong, let me
know.
There's still stuff like conversation, greetings, detection, service
and miscellaneous lines to go. Post suggestions if you'd like to
contribute something that you think ought to be included.
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This post has been edited 4 time(s), it was last edited by Ibsen's Ghost: 22.02.2008 11:14.
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Ibsen's Ghost
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Hi all,
Here are some of the recordings as 'tasters'. Any feedback welcome.
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Alasdair
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Sounds good! I'm not sure whether we will want to use fully voiced
dialog in the mod, but these smaller sound bites will definitely be
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Originally posted by Alasdair
Sounds good! I'm not sure whether we will want to use fully voiced
dialog in the mod, but these smaller sound bites will definitely be
useful. |
Hmmm, I was under the impression that this mod was basically being used with Silgrad Tower where we're doing a complete voice overhaul. Anyway, it'll be an option at the very least.
In the meantime, does anyone have any views on the following
modifications to the conversation tab dialogue? They are all just
options at the moment but, if agreed upon, can be used.
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Nord Conversation Tab Alterations and Additions
StGeneric_HELLO_0018BC97_1 Neutral:50 "You're a sneaky looking sort."
(changed to "You stalk around like one of the Morag Tong.")
StGeneric_HELLO_0018BCB5_1 Neutral:50 "Seems you've bloodied your
knuckles a few times." (changed to "You look like a good one to be in a
brawl with.")
StGeneric_HELLO_0018BCB6_1 Neutral:50 "There's a charge in the air.
Been casting some destruction spells?" PRODNOTE: "REC - M Imperial, F
Imperial, M Argonian, F Argonian, M Khajiit, F Khajiit, M Breton, F
Breton, M Dark Elf, M High Elf, M Nord, F Nord, M Orc, F Orc," (changed
to "You've got a wild glint in your eye. Don't try any destruction
spells out on me!")
StGeneric_HELLO_0018BCB7_1 Neutral:50 "You smell of death. Been
conjuring up dead things?" (changed to "You stink of Shor's Underworld.
Are you a Conjuror?")
StGeneric_HELLO_0018BCBE_1 Neutral:50 "You've got the hands of a smith.
Must have spent some time repairing your gear." (changed to "I'd
recognise a Blacksmith anywhere. You must have been trained in Skyrim.")
StGeneric_HELLO_0018BCBF_1 Neutral:50 "Your shield arm looks strong."
(changed to "Your shield arm looks as strong as Riften Oak!")
StGeneric_HELLO_00025678_1 Happy:70 "Hi there!" PRODNOTE: ";Very friendly hello" (changed to "Blessings of Kynareth to you.")
StGeneric_HELLO_0002B5DF_1 Neutral:50 "Greetings, fellow Altmer." (add "Greetings, Altmer. No hard feelings, eh?")
StGeneric_HELLO_0002B5F1_1 Neutral:50 "Something on your mind,
goldenrod?" (changed to "Speak, or I'll have your tongue as a trophy,
Altmer bastard!")
StGeneric_HELLO_0003AAB1_1 Disgust:60 "Hello." PRODNOTE: ";annoyed"
(changed to "Out with it, before I make a rope out of your tongue.")
StGeneric_HELLO_0018B5CF_1 Anger:50 "I don't have time for you."
(changed to "My days are already numbered by Orkey and now you're
wasting my time!")
StGeneric_GOODBYE_00074FD3_1 Anger:80 "Just go away!" PRODNOTE: "REC -
all Races and Sexes" (changed to "Scram! You really don't want me
shouting at you.")
StGeneric_GOODBYE_00074FDA_1 Anger:80 "Just leave." PRODNOTE: "REC -
all Races and Sexes" (changed to "Scram! You really don't want me
shouting at you.")
StGeneric_FearGeneral_00024268_1 Neutral:50 "It can't be!" (changed to "By the kiss of Kyne, that can't be!")
StGeneric_SadGeneral_00024270_1 Neutral:50 "That's terrible." (changed to "By the kiss of Kyne, that's terrible!")
StGeneric_AngerReceive_00024261_1 Neutral:50 "That's not possible!" (changed to "By the Woodland Man, that's not possible!")
StGeneric_FollowupPositive_00024227_1 Neutral:50 "That's fine news." (changed to "By the glory of Atmora, that's fine news!")
StGeneric_CreatureResponses_00029195_1 Neutral:50 "I ran into some
goblins in the woods not long ago. Nasty little beasts." (changed to "I
ran into some goblins in the woods not so long ago. Those little beasts
should be kept as slaves in Shor's Underworld.")
StGeneric_CreatureResponses_00029196_1 Neutral:50 "I heard there were
some goblins around here recently. Awful creatures." (changed to "Watch
out for goblins. I can't stand them but I'll say one thing for them.
Their tongues make excellent ropes!")
StGeneric_CreatureResponses_0002B1C3_1 Neutral:50 "Ugly things, with
their thick shells and sharp claws. I avoid them." (changed to "Ugly
things! Their claws can give you a nasty nip. Their shells can make
good temporary armour, though.")
StGeneric_CreatureResponses_0002B1C6_1 Neutral:50 "Horrible things. I
hear that the High Elves train them. I can't imagine it." (changed to
"Horrible things. I hear that the High Elves train them but they're
always boasting. I can't imagine it myself.") |
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Good Stuff IG
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02.03.2008 20:38 |
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Alasdair
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Skyrim is totally separate from ST when it comes to dialogue. We
haven't really started implementing it yet, so I can't really say how
we will use your lines in the mod, only that we will find a great use
for them somewhere. 
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I thought you might like to hear some of these in action. Feedback welcome!
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Ibsen's Ghost
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Thanks, Richard! I always appreciate compliments. In fact, I'm likely
to return to this post again in order to bask in the glow of praise.
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Good work! I'm scottish as well, although my accent is very west coast 
so completely different 
Good to see that there will be good dialogue in the mod, will ad a lot
of playability. Another option would be to get specific actors for
specific characters in game? I wish I had a mic..... I could just stick
on a ned accent and watch as bus stops all over skyrim are trashed 
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Ibsen's Ghost
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Thanks for the feedback Coinneach! I absolutely adore Scotland and have
a fair amount of Scottish friends but I can't say that I'm Scottish
myself as I've lived mainly around Middlesbrough and North Yorkshire
for most of my life.
I think having specific actors for individual characters would be cool
too. Particularly different inflections of the base accent such as the
Scottish Nord. So I hope a decent mic falls in your lap at some point
because it would really help the game to have different but similar
voices.
Edit 2008.03.23 22:16:
Okay, I'm just about to finish off the remaining tabs for the Scottish
Nord generic files and I wanted to give you a preview of some of the
additional lines for the last part. Any constructive criticism, or
especially suggestions, would be gratefully received.
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DETECTION, SERVICE AND MISC TAB:
StGeneric_Seen_001854EE_1 Anger:50 "Your presence here will not be tolerated!" (or "At last I've got something to pulverise!")
StGeneric_Lost_0002D40A_1 Neutral:50 "Nothing to worry about, I guess.
Just my eyes playing tricks on me." (or "Nothing to worry about, I
guess. Just Old Knocker playing tricks on me.")
StGeneric_Barter_000091C6_1 Neutral:50 "I would love to put you in some
of my fine garments." (or "These fine garments will make you fit for
the halls of Thirsk!")
StGeneric_Barter_000091BE_1 Neutral:50 "I offer the finest goods and
lowest prices in all Cyrodiil." (or "I offer the finest goods and
lowest prices in all Western Morrowind.")
StGeneric_Barter_000091BF_1 Neutral:50 "May I interest you in some of
my fine wares?" (or "Some of my stuff is genuine hand-made goods from
the Skaal village.")
StGeneric_Repair_00066A55_1 Neutral:50 "I'm pretty handy. What needs to
be fixed?" PRODNOTE: "REC - all sexes, all races" (or "You're looking
at Solstheim's finest smithy.")
StGeneric_Repair_00066A56_1 Neutral:50 "I can fix whatever you break."
PRODNOTE: "REC - all sexes, all races" (or "I know the secrets of the
Sovngarde forge.")
StGeneric_Repair_0003899A_1 Neutral:50 "For the right price, I can make
anything good-as-new." (or "Aye, what don't I know about metal and
stone? I'll make it tough but it'll cost you.")
StGeneric_Training_00066A5D_1 Neutral:50 "I can show you some new
things." PRODNOTE: "REC - all sexes, all races" (or "You think I'm
stupid? Ah well, I can teach you a thing or two.")
StGeneric_Training_000389A3_1 Neutral:50 "Knowledge is power." (or, "My
advice has been passed down through Nedic halls for generations.")
StGeneric_BarterBuyItem_0000921C_1 Neutral:50 "A fine bargain for you."
(or "How'd you do that? That was less than I paid myself.")
StGeneric_BarterSellItem_000091DC_1 Neutral:50 "That seems a fair
price." (or "I'll say this for you. You've got a good eye for quality.")
StGeneric_BarterExit_000091E6_1 Neutral:50 "Thank you for your patronage." (or "Oh, I love a good haggle!")
StGeneric_InfoRefusal_00024599_1 Neutral:50 "That's privileged
information. I'm sorry." (or "No offense, but you look like a real
trickster.")
StGeneric_InfoRefusal_0002459E_1 Neutral:50 "Concerning this, I can
only speak to a friend." (or "For all I know, you could be Herma-Mora
in disguise.")
StGeneric_Corpse_00062510_1 Neutral:50 "May you rest in peace." (or "Poor thing! Shor's blessing to you.")
StGeneric_TimeToGo_0002A7DD_1 Neutral:50 "I need you to leave now." (or "I need you to leave so I can have a wee night-cap.") |
Thanks for taking a look, people. I hope these lines prove useful to
you all. I'll be sending these to Steve Carrow once I'm done.
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Alasdair
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Maybe instead of "These fine garments will make you fit for the halls
of Thirsk!" you could have "These fine garments will make you fit for
the palace in Windhelm!". I don't remember Thirsk being a place of high
culture and fancy clothes in Bloodmoon, more animal hides and mead.
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Ibsen's Ghost
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Thanks, Alasdair. I've just finished the lines but it's no problem to
redo some of them. I agree with you and I'm actually quite thankful as
the name of Thirsk to me is too close to home. There is a little market
town quite close to where I live called Thirsk ( http://www.thirsk.org.uk/
) and to think of it being a flashy place for Nords to skulk around and
drink mead is a little silly, despite the links with our area to the
Vikings.
One of the town's biggest celebrities, James Herriott, the 'famous vet
and author' doesn't even come close to animal hides and mead!
The Nord generic files are now complete! I'll post up some samples from
the latest recordings once others have had a chance to peruse these
lines and make suggestions where necessary.
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