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IAMTHEEMPEROR
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Do you have any ideas for Dusk trees? I can get started on those as well.

Ok, I have your six trees. They look really nice in SpeedTree, but the leaf mapping is different in the CS and the bark is just a solid black color, so someone else should look into them.

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2007.05.01 22:50

The Old Ye Bard
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Originally posted by IAMTHEEMPEROR
Do you have any ideas for Dusk trees? I can get started on those as well.

Ok, I have your six trees. They look really nice in SpeedTree, but the leaf mapping is different in the CS and the bark is just a solid black color, so someone else should look into them.

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It'll be something to do with the alpha setting I bet, and as for a Dusk tree I'm not that sure, prehaps some really big trees like this (and little twisted ones to go with):

http://www.canadafirst.net/our_heritage/trees/gloom.jpg

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I don't know. Azura's realm is supposed to be a beautiful place. If we have one good half and one scary half, it's starting to sound like the Shivering Isles. How about I make similar trees to the dawn ones, only shorter, wider, and red-ish orange colored? I could make them a different style though if you want. The Dawn trees were made by tweaking a Mania tree, maybe I could tweak a tree from Camoran's Paradise and see how that works out.

Hmmm, maybe it is alpha. The trees come with an alpha setting in their branch/trunk geometry, because when I put a leaf texture on there to see what it would look like, it definately had alpha. Maybe I should save the bark texture with alpha.

One issue I had was I loaded the same tree into the CS twice, and they were different shapes for some reason. I'll look into it more later.

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2007.05.02 15:13

The Old Ye Bard
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Originally posted by IAMTHEEMPEROR
I don't know. Azura's realm is supposed to be a beautiful place. If we have one good half and one scary half, it's starting to sound like the Shivering Isles. How about I make similar trees to the dawn ones, only shorter, wider, and red-ish orange colored? I could make them a different style though if you want. The Dawn trees were made by tweaking a Mania tree, maybe I could tweak a tree from Camoran's Paradise and see how that works out.

Hmmm, maybe it is alpha. The trees come with an alpha setting in their branch/trunk geometry, because when I put a leaf texture on there to see what it would look like, it definately had alpha. Maybe I should save the bark texture with alpha.

One issue I had was I loaded the same tree into the CS twice, and they were different shapes for some reason. I'll look into it more later.

To me that still has a sense of beauty, and looks preety nice. Could you atlast make a few tests of it before you turn it down?

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2007.05.02 20:42

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I'm not gonna turn it down. I'll run a few tests soon.

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2007.05.02 21:08

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I'm not gonna turn it down. I'll run a few tests soon.

Thanks

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2007.05.02 21:17

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Hmmm, I keep trying things, and it's the same thing. I'd like to get someone else with SpeedTree to have a look at them. I think Flesh has it, what has he been up to lately?

As for the mapping, I think I will recolor the Mania leaves on the original tree, because I can't find a way to fix the ginko leaf mapping.

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Hmmm, I keep trying things, and it's the same thing. I'd like to get someone else with SpeedTree to have a look at them. I think Flesh has it, what has he been up to lately?

As for the mapping, I think I will recolor the Mania leaves on the original tree, because I can't find a way to fix the ginko leaf mapping.

Make a really thick trunk to begin with, then continue with making it big Yes

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2007.05.04 22:50

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Make a really thick truck to begin with, then continue with making it big Yes

Truck!??

You will have a truck in the Thras mod?

I assume you are talking about a tree trunk, right?.

EDIT: yeah, I see you fixed it now Tongue

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Make a really thick truck to begin with, then continue with making it big Yes

Truck!??

You will have a truck in the Thras mod?

I assume you are talking about a tree trunk, right?.

EDIT: yeah, I see you fixed it now Tongue

What's wrong with trucks? Eek 1

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2007.05.04 23:42

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I'm still trying to figure out the blackness issue with the Dawn Trees, but I thought I'd get started a bit on the Dusk trees. I saw TOYB's concept for them, but I thought I'd start with how I think they'd look.

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2007.05.05 08:07

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Hmm... It might be better to have the "dawn" trees used for usk, and the "dawn" trees used for dawn, because the colours are a little mismatching.

Anyway, the tree looks nice, prehaps make one that is taller aswell? And then make a few differnt scales of them, and slight variants Yes

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Didn't really understand the first part of that, but I liked the second part...sorta...now so long as those trees can be fixed as well...

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Originally posted by IAMTHEEMPEROR
Didn't really understand the first part of that, but I liked the second part...sorta...now so long as those trees can be fixed as well...

Your "dawn" trees will be used in dusk, and your "dusk" trees will be used in dawn, because of the colours you used (it doesn't really matter to much).

And post a thread in the BSF CS area, and ask what the problem is.

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2007.05.05 08:56

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Wait, so are we just switching the textures, or are we really going to have blue trees at dusk?

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2007.05.06 16:31

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Wait, so are we just switching the textures, or are we really going to have blue trees at dusk?

Not switching textures, switching the entire trees around. Dusk is the moon and is going (and has been planned to be) the murkier one.

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2007.05.06 21:34

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I don't know. Dusk and Dawn aren't day and night. They're sunrise and sunset. Sunrises are usually kinda bluish to me, the light blue sky still dyed from night but beginning to be illuminated by the sun, a foggy haze often times with it, and the same chill from night temperatures. Dusk is red and firey, the orange and red sky burns in the distance as night stretches around, shadows grow, and although a bit chilly the sunlight is still just as warm where it reaches. That's how I always imagined it. I just think if we make Dusk gloomy that's imitating SI just a bit too much.

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2007.05.08 01:00

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I don't know. Dusk and Dawn aren't day and night. They're sunrise and sunset. Sunrises are usually kinda bluish to me, the light blue sky still dyed from night but beginning to be illuminated by the sun, a foggy haze often times with it, and the same chill from night temperatures. Dusk is red and firey, the orange and red sky burns in the distance as night stretches around, shadows grow, and although a bit chilly the sunlight is still just as warm where it reaches. That's how I always imagined it. I just think if we make Dusk gloomy that's imitating SI just a bit too much.

Not really my decision, it's been decided by V7 and Lgmm1(sp?).

And BTW Dusk goes into the night, and Dawn is that of a new day. What follows it makes it what it is in the mod Wink

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Not really my decision, it's been decided by V7 and Lgmm1(sp?).

And BTW Dusk goes into the night, and Dawn is that of a new day. What follows it makes it what it is in the mod Wink

I didn't decide anything, its not my decision. Its up to you and Isimm14 to sort that out. For my mod i'm just making Dusk's flora and feel slightly darker and Dawns more warmer.

btw, you should close this thread and link to the Moonshadow forum, theres really no use for this thread anymore.

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2007.05.08 12:09

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And also Azura's realm is described as being completely beautiful. If we make one part look ugly, that's kinda lorebreaking.

And I knew that dawn was the rising sun and dusk is the setting sun. It just doesn't make sense why dusk would be blue nad dawn be red. Actually now that I look at it Dawn seems more golden than blue in most places. They can both actually be pretty golden. Here are a few pictures below.

The first one is Dawn, the second picture is Dusk

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