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EDIT: I have changed this thread to a development one.


I don't know if there is already one so if there is kill this right now...
I was thinking (I know, rare) and was thinking about Valenwood... whoa
now this was all thought out hastily so pardon the hastiness as Treebeard would call it...
so yeah, let me explain my thinking on this subject....

the armors of the Bosmer.... they are not used to field-combat, hell most aren't very used to swords.... what they are used to are short-sword fighting is necessary and mostly bows. They may have 'invented' them and perhaps perfected their use but.... yeah whatever. Anyhow seeing as they are very light warriors their armor needs to reflect this and the available materials... remember no wood to be felled in Valenwood....

so... I shall begin with my ideas

LIGHT

Harpy-feather Armor
-though feathers do not seem to be a good armor, there has been one tribe to use harpy hide and feathers. It is very light and not good protection against melee weapons but strangely enough, good protection against arrows. Also, some of the magic of the harpy is within so that the armor will provide a sort of nimbleness and speed to the wearer.
Hoarvor Armor
-although Dunmer in inspiration the Hoarvor has been adapted to make armors for a certain tribe. They, having sent many archers to Morrowind as hirelings know of the chitin armors of the Dunmer. Therefore they have begun an unconventional tradition of stacking hoarvor chitin in layers to make a hoarvor armor from the giant beetle-like pest.
Sentry Jerkin
-this leather style is common throughout Valenwood. It is tight fitting and made from the hide of several different animals. Softer pelts are for the inside and on the outside coaser skins are used. It is good protection for those who can use it well but not extremely good protect, it may turn a few blade-strokes before tearing, so skill is required.
Hydra-scale Armor
-the Hydra-scale armor is basically the hide of a hydra made into armor... the armor ratying is not extremely high though decent but it is very very durable. and it is hard to acquire.
Savage Imga Armor
-this armor is made by the so called savage Imga who still practice the old forager ways and when at war, though rarely, they will wear their own armor, a mixture of wood, sap, bone, and metal chips.
Boar-tusk Armor
This armor, though not extremely common, is not rare either. Basically it uses boar-tusks and hooves to create a strong husk, of course the inside is lined with the boar hide providing a comfortable though coarse and rigid light armor.
Scavenged Altmer Armor
-Some veteran Bosmer warriors have a tradition of scavenging and adapting Altmer armor. It seems they have created a sort fo new armor-style from old Second Era Altmer armors. These are armors and ligth but not as strong as Altmer armor as they have been carefuly beaten into certain shapes. The Bosmer also carve on them designs and and scenes of battles. THis armor, though originally a more heavy style, had been assimilated to Bosmer tastes to a point where they have become light armors.
Xylo Chainmail
-named such because of the place the ore was mined from and where it originated, this Bosmeri chainmail was made to better defend the warriors against khajiit swords and scimitars. It is decent and durable but not extremely common except from certain smiths living along the Xylo who occasionally demand high prices for these decent chainmails as they are rare in Valenwood.
Wood Goblin Armor
-This is a combination of hides and wood. It is not very strong nor durable but easy to acquire. It is made by goblins who live in Valenwood. However, the shields are actually relatively strong despite the rest of the armor being poor in quality.

HEAVY
Camoran Steel Armor
-the steel armor of the Camorans is an ancient style influenced by the Ayelieds, it is steel yet more durable though only as protective as normal steel. It is rather ornate and was for guards. Though heavy in design it is strangely light for a heavy style armor.
Bronze-leaf armor
-a long lost clan of Mer made this sort of scale mail that immitates leaves. It is made of bronze, light, and decent protection. Not much can be said about the armor but it appears to originate from a tribe of Ayelieds as some was found in a Ayelied tuins of some sort.
Minotaur Bone armor
-Used more for ceremony but if properly worn can be a good protection. It is usually used in hunting ceremonies but some Bosmer have learned to make good use of the ceremonial armor for martial purposes.
Ceramic Plate armor
-This armor is extremely strong but not very durable. There have been some tribes, desiring a strong armor, that have made ceramic plates to fit neatly together to form a sort of heavy ceramic armor. ofte times only the cuirass is used as most Bosmer aren't in prolonged fights for too long.
Imga Heavy Armor
-Some of the 'savage' Imga had learned from orcs how to make metal armors. So however rare these may be, the Imga Heavy armor is well made. It is based on light armor but is heavy, being made of iron and furs.
Thalmor Armor
-This is a sort of elven armor made to protect those who guarded the Altmer officials who ran the Thalmor. As that is now gone, many of the armor sets have been lost. It is a good armor and rare, made of unknown alloys and and crafted by great Altmer smiths long ago. It is made of bands and shells of carefully fitted metal so that when worn and equipped, it will roll and move perfectly.





that's all for now! Wink

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is anything going on here?
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more ideas.....

LIGHT
Centaur Bark Armor
And armor used by centaurs, it is light and made of bark strips specially treated and hardned. The manufacture of it is forbbiden by Bosmer taboo, but should a Bosmer slay a Centaur and take its armor, it is fine. It is very light, and somewhat protective; the light-weight is the key.
Silvenar Rider Armor
This is the armor for the riders of Silvenar, the guards of the city and escorts for its chief. The armor is made from white leather, bronze and silver. It is stronger than generic leather but not exceptional, it is however beautiful and very durable.
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Interesting ideas Kukulza, unfortunately I think everyone on the Valenwood team exploded or something, there hasn't been any action on here for quite some time. Hope someone starts doing something here.
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I trying to bring it back with ideas but.... they all ....disappeared... Eek 1
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I'm here.. Just waiting for people to do something since I can't do much without a map or other people...
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Have you been in touch with anyone else from the team, Atlas? Have they made any progress on models, textures, heightmap, ect.
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*sigh* Frown .....huh.... well...
LIGHT ARMOR
Braided Armor
-Made from braided ropes of Verkarth flax, this light armor is durable and decently strong. It is made of flax and hardened with saps and backed with leather. It was improvised by Khajiti invaders but some Bosmer tribes have large collections of these, and as they did not make them, they can use them. It was abandoned by th hajit as it tended to agitate their fury bodies but it fit nicely with the Bosmer skin, not unused to the rough fibrous texture and unphased with the smelly sap used to harded it. They are becoming rare as Bosmer do not bother to reproduce these armors and khajiit spurn them for better armors. However, they can still be found in hamlets near old khajit-bosmer battlefields.
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well I'm also here.. but suddenly noone on the team replied or anything so :/.. Which is really sad, since I really had my hopes for this and was really looking forward to complete this.. though if any here think they they want to help with this, I'm up for making a new team. or atleast expand it if the others suddenly should return, anyhow I'm abole to get to Edgefilm who has the story and MQ part. So the only thing I need is people :/
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so anyone want to comment on my ideas or will we simply assume they are perfect and totally feasible!
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I'm no real armor expert in any way really, though it sounds really good :) - besides, I would never been able to come up with so many different armor types.. so really good job there
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While I will be busy with steadhelm, I will, if possible, try my hand at any retext requests you may have.
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permission to post concept art here for retexturers?

I really want to know if I should concentrate on this project or not... frankly I am stretched thin amongst a multitude of mods and games and I want to work hard for a successful mod... and I want Valenwood to be successful....
so I do hope my ideas and art will do something good for this project...
this and Elsewyr, I understand you guys are sharing a worldspace?
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So long as mesh editing is not neccasary Ill take a crack at whatever you want. I don't liek to watch projects die, let's get something to show people alright!
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So long as mesh editing is not neccasary Ill take a crack at whatever you want. I don't liek to watch projects die, let's get something to show people alright!

good to hear Good job!

I will draw one of the armors now...
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nope no time, but I am also running out of ideas... or is this enough new armors?
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I got one a normal light leaf armor who give + in Stealth(well atleat in valenwood)

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I think for the light armour it is enough, really original Kukulza, maybe one of two more Heavies. How about some concept that I saw you mention earlier?
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I made a wooden armor retexture, not available for download yet, Still a WIP because I plan on doing a darker version. FLESH told me you would like to use it. I have already told Project Tamriel that they can use it but I have no problem with both of you using it.

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Welcome to Valenwood Hypno Toad Wave

Thank you for the armour. If you want, when you are finished, you can try some of the other armours around here. We're always looking for modlers, new and old.

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I have a non-transperant amber with wooden pannels, I will need someone else to do the transperancy.
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The dark version of my armor is NOT coming along very well. Whenever I try to make a decent redwood or dark wood it just looks like shit. Litterally. I'm considering not doing a dark one and doing another light one with new models and maybe adding vines or leaves to it.

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I can try to darken it if you want.
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I have three pictures displaying the problem:
Picture 1
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If you compare those pictures to the ones of the lighter color you can see that the new ones just dont look good. I dont think its a problem of lightness or darkness, That is easy to adjust, I just dont think it looks right. It looks nothing like wood.

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I have my ways.
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Do you want me to send it to you? If so how? through E-mail?

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Rapidshare.
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Ok heres the...
Texture
and
Normal map
And that is using the imperial dragon armor boot mesh.

I did plan on doing some shading like I did with the other version but the color looked so bad I didn't want to waste my time.

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Don't spend too much time on that retex Dark, I might not finish the dark armor set. You are welcome to, of course, but I have plans for the future and am sick of wood.

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Hmm. alright, I can help out on future projects then? I can tell ou how to make relaistic wood in about 30 seconds.
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What I'm working on now is stone. I'm pretty sure that wont be a light armor :p Anyway, I think I might too tree bark after that but I might go back to normal wood, but for now I want to broaden my range. I would definetly appreciate help, as I'm pretty new to all this.

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I can make a nice marble effect, possibly granit.
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Right now I'm using the textures that are used in the game for rocks on the ground and stuff

I'm almost done with greaves and I've got boots done so I'll post screens in a moment and you can tell me what you think.

OK, got some screens of this stone armor.
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I think the greaves came out much better. I should redo the boots with a texture more similar to the one used for the greaves.

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Investigating the disappearance of the Valenwood team. :lmao:
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Well, DarkAsmodeous is here and I'm a recent addition and now you. Three's company, right?

what do you think of my stone and wood armors?

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Valenwood is alive and kicking, what are you talking about.
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Ouch that was my face watch where your kicking Dunce

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Hey Dark, I just finished the stone armor and I was thinking about marble. You said you knew how to make a marble look? Care to tell me?

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Certainly, start with a gray, the Filter>clouds

Next you filter>Sponge, mess with it until you get it how you like it

Next Adjust the saturation/lightness and the Shadow/Highlites until you get what you want, if you wat to you can use filter>render>lighting effects to make it sheen, and you can play around with some other filters as well.
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ok thanks. I'll mess with that. I'll probably have something to report tomorrow.

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