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KuKulzA
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EDIT: I have changed this thread to a development one.
I don't know if there is already one so if there is kill this right now...
I was thinking (I know, rare) and was thinking about Valenwood... whoa
now this was all thought out hastily so pardon the hastiness as Treebeard would call it...
so yeah, let me explain my thinking on this subject....
the armors of the Bosmer.... they are not used to field-combat, hell
most aren't very used to swords.... what they are used to are
short-sword fighting is necessary and mostly bows. They may have
'invented' them and perhaps perfected their use but.... yeah whatever.
Anyhow seeing as they are very light warriors their armor needs to
reflect this and the available materials... remember no wood to be
felled in Valenwood....
so... I shall begin with my ideas
LIGHT
Harpy-feather Armor
-though feathers do not seem to be a good armor, there has been one
tribe to use harpy hide and feathers. It is very light and not good
protection against melee weapons but strangely enough, good protection
against arrows. Also, some of the magic of the harpy is within so that
the armor will provide a sort of nimbleness and speed to the wearer.
Hoarvor Armor
-although Dunmer in inspiration the Hoarvor has been adapted to make
armors for a certain tribe. They, having sent many archers to Morrowind
as hirelings know of the chitin armors of the Dunmer. Therefore they
have begun an unconventional tradition of stacking hoarvor chitin in
layers to make a hoarvor armor from the giant beetle-like pest.
Sentry Jerkin
-this leather style is common throughout Valenwood. It is tight fitting
and made from the hide of several different animals. Softer pelts are
for the inside and on the outside coaser skins are used. It is good
protection for those who can use it well but not extremely good
protect, it may turn a few blade-strokes before tearing, so skill is
required.
Hydra-scale Armor
-the Hydra-scale armor is basically the hide of a hydra made into
armor... the armor ratying is not extremely high though decent but it
is very very durable. and it is hard to acquire.
Savage Imga Armor
-this armor is made by the so called savage Imga who still practice the
old forager ways and when at war, though rarely, they will wear their
own armor, a mixture of wood, sap, bone, and metal chips.
Boar-tusk Armor
This armor, though not extremely common, is not rare either. Basically
it uses boar-tusks and hooves to create a strong husk, of course the
inside is lined with the boar hide providing a comfortable though
coarse and rigid light armor.
Scavenged Altmer Armor
-Some veteran Bosmer warriors have a tradition of scavenging and
adapting Altmer armor. It seems they have created a sort fo new
armor-style from old Second Era Altmer armors. These are armors and
ligth but not as strong as Altmer armor as they have been carefuly
beaten into certain shapes. The Bosmer also carve on them designs and
and scenes of battles. THis armor, though originally a more heavy
style, had been assimilated to Bosmer tastes to a point where they have
become light armors.
Xylo Chainmail
-named such because of the place the ore was mined from and where it
originated, this Bosmeri chainmail was made to better defend the
warriors against khajiit swords and scimitars. It is decent and durable
but not extremely common except from certain smiths living along the
Xylo who occasionally demand high prices for these decent chainmails as
they are rare in Valenwood.
Wood Goblin Armor
-This is a combination of hides and wood. It is not very strong nor
durable but easy to acquire. It is made by goblins who live in
Valenwood. However, the shields are actually relatively strong despite
the rest of the armor being poor in quality.
HEAVY
Camoran Steel Armor
-the steel armor of the Camorans is an ancient style influenced by the
Ayelieds, it is steel yet more durable though only as protective as
normal steel. It is rather ornate and was for guards. Though heavy in
design it is strangely light for a heavy style armor.
Bronze-leaf armor
-a long lost clan of Mer made this sort of scale mail that immitates
leaves. It is made of bronze, light, and decent protection. Not much
can be said about the armor but it appears to originate from a tribe of
Ayelieds as some was found in a Ayelied tuins of some sort.
Minotaur Bone armor
-Used more for ceremony but if properly worn can be a good protection.
It is usually used in hunting ceremonies but some Bosmer have learned
to make good use of the ceremonial armor for martial purposes.
Ceramic Plate armor
-This armor is extremely strong but not very durable. There have been
some tribes, desiring a strong armor, that have made ceramic plates to
fit neatly together to form a sort of heavy ceramic armor. ofte times
only the cuirass is used as most Bosmer aren't in prolonged fights for
too long.
Imga Heavy Armor
-Some of the 'savage' Imga had learned from orcs how to make metal
armors. So however rare these may be, the Imga Heavy armor is well
made. It is based on light armor but is heavy, being made of iron and
furs.
Thalmor Armor
-This is a sort of elven armor made to protect those who guarded the
Altmer officials who ran the Thalmor. As that is now gone, many of the
armor sets have been lost. It is a good armor and rare, made of unknown
alloys and and crafted by great Altmer smiths long ago. It is made of
bands and shells of carefully fitted metal so that when worn and
equipped, it will roll and move perfectly.
that's all for now!
This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by FLESH: 24.07.2006 17:24.
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25.04.2006 02:18 |
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KuKulzA
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is anything going on here?
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30.04.2006 02:40 |
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KuKulzA
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more ideas.....
LIGHT
Centaur Bark Armor
And armor used by centaurs, it is light and made of bark strips
specially treated and hardned. The manufacture of it is forbbiden by
Bosmer taboo, but should a Bosmer slay a Centaur and take its armor, it
is fine. It is very light, and somewhat protective; the light-weight is
the key.
Silvenar Rider Armor
This is the armor for the riders of Silvenar, the guards of the city
and escorts for its chief. The armor is made from white leather, bronze
and silver. It is stronger than generic leather but not exceptional, it
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30.04.2006 21:43 |
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Siegfried
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Interesting ideas Kukulza, unfortunately I think everyone on the
Valenwood team exploded or something, there hasn't been any action on
here for quite some time. Hope someone starts doing something here. |
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30.04.2006 23:24 |
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KuKulzA
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I trying to bring it back with ideas but.... they all ....disappeared...
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30.04.2006 23:56 |
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Atlas_550
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I'm here.. Just waiting for people to do something since I can't do much without a map or other people...
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02.05.2006 04:02 |
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Siegfried
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Have you been in touch with anyone else from the team, Atlas? Have they
made any progress on models, textures, heightmap, ect. |
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02.05.2006 21:43 |
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KuKulzA
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*sigh*
.....huh.... well...
LIGHT ARMOR
Braided Armor
-Made from braided ropes of Verkarth flax, this light armor is durable
and decently strong. It is made of flax and hardened with saps and
backed with leather. It was improvised by Khajiti invaders but some
Bosmer tribes have large collections of these, and as they did not make
them, they can use them. It was abandoned by th hajit as it tended to
agitate their fury bodies but it fit nicely with the Bosmer skin, not
unused to the rough fibrous texture and unphased with the smelly sap
used to harded it. They are becoming rare as Bosmer do not bother to
reproduce these armors and khajiit spurn them for better armors.
However, they can still be found in hamlets near old khajit-bosmer
battlefields. |
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09.05.2006 01:34 |
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Maggon
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well I'm also here.. but suddenly noone on the team replied or anything
so :/.. Which is really sad, since I really had my hopes for this and
was really looking forward to complete this.. though if any here think
they they want to help with this, I'm up for making a new team. or
atleast expand it if the others suddenly should return, anyhow I'm
abole to get to Edgefilm who has the story and MQ part. So the only
thing I need is people :/ |
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13.05.2006 02:59 |
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KuKulzA
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so anyone want to comment on my ideas or will we simply assume they are perfect and totally feasible!
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20.05.2006 01:24 |
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Maggon
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I'm no real armor expert in any way really, though it sounds really good
- besides, I would never been able to come up with so many different armor types.. so really good job there
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21.05.2006 23:25 |
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DarkAsmodeous
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While I will be busy with steadhelm, I will, if possible, try my hand at any retext requests you may have.
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11.06.2006 10:10 |
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KuKulzA
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permission to post concept art here for retexturers?
I really want to know if I should concentrate on this project or not...
frankly I am stretched thin amongst a multitude of mods and games and I
want to work hard for a successful mod... and I want Valenwood to be
successful....
so I do hope my ideas and art will do something good for this project...
this and Elsewyr, I understand you guys are sharing a worldspace?
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11.06.2006 14:00 |
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DarkAsmodeous
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So long as mesh editing is not neccasary Ill take a crack at whatever
you want. I don't liek to watch projects die, let's get something to
show people alright!
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12.06.2006 22:42 |
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KuKulzA
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quote: |
Originally posted by DarkAsmodeous
So long as mesh editing is not neccasary Ill take a crack at whatever
you want. I don't liek to watch projects die, let's get something to
show people alright! |
good to hear
I will draw one of the armors now...
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12.06.2006 22:50 |
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KuKulzA
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nope no time, but I am also running out of ideas... or is this enough new armors?
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09.07.2006 19:13 |
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FLESH
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I think for the light armour it is enough, really original Kukulza,
maybe one of two more Heavies. How about some concept that I saw you
mention earlier?
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09.07.2006 19:32 |
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FLESH
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Welcome to Valenwood Hypno Toad
Thank you for the armour. If you want, when you are finished, you can
try some of the other armours around here. We're always looking for
modlers, new and old.
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24.07.2006 18:04 |
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DarkAsmodeous
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I have a non-transperant amber with wooden pannels, I will need someone else to do the transperancy.
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24.07.2006 18:31 |
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Hypno-toad
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The dark version of my armor is NOT coming along very well. Whenever I
try to make a decent redwood or dark wood it just looks like shit.
Litterally. I'm considering not doing a dark one and doing another
light one with new models and maybe adding vines or leaves to it.
__________________ "Collecting evidence had gotten
old a few hundred bullets back. I was already so far past the point of
no return I couldn't remember what it had looked like when I had passed
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24.07.2006 22:22 |
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DarkAsmodeous
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I can try to darken it if you want.
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24.07.2006 22:24 |
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Hypno-toad
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I have three pictures displaying the problem:
Picture 1
Picture 2
Picture 3
If you compare those pictures to the ones of the lighter color you can
see that the new ones just dont look good. I dont think its a problem
of lightness or darkness, That is easy to adjust, I just dont think it
looks right. It looks nothing like wood.
__________________ "Collecting evidence had gotten
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24.07.2006 22:40 |
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DarkAsmodeous
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24.07.2006 22:41 |
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DarkAsmodeous
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24.07.2006 22:43 |
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Hypno-toad
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Don't spend too much time on that retex Dark, I might not finish the
dark armor set. You are welcome to, of course, but I have plans for the
future and am sick of wood.
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25.07.2006 05:43 |
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DarkAsmodeous
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Hmm. alright, I can help out on future projects then? I can tell ou how to make relaistic wood in about 30 seconds.
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25.07.2006 05:46 |
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Hypno-toad
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What I'm working on now is stone. I'm pretty sure that wont be a light
armor :p Anyway, I think I might too tree bark after that but I might
go back to normal wood, but for now I want to broaden my range. I would
definetly appreciate help, as I'm pretty new to all this.
__________________ "Collecting evidence had gotten
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25.07.2006 05:57 |
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DarkAsmodeous
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I can make a nice marble effect, possibly granit.
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25.07.2006 06:04 |
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walrus
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Investigating the disappearance of the Valenwood team.
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25.07.2006 06:36 |
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DarkAsmodeous
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Valenwood is alive and kicking, what are you talking about.
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25.07.2006 06:55 |
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Green @nt1-n00b
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Ouch that was my face watch where your kicking
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25.07.2006 08:30 |
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Hypno-toad
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Hey Dark, I just finished the stone armor and I was thinking about
marble. You said you knew how to make a marble look? Care to tell me?
__________________ "Collecting evidence had gotten
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26.07.2006 03:58 |
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DarkAsmodeous
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Certainly, start with a gray, the Filter>clouds
Next you filter>Sponge, mess with it until you get it how you like it
Next Adjust the saturation/lightness and the Shadow/Highlites until you
get what you want, if you wat to you can use
filter>render>lighting effects to make it sheen, and you can play
around with some other filters as well.
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