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FLESH
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Silvenar Discussion.

Ok lets talk about our first city, Silvenar, as mentioned in other posts the city building are made of marble, and from the distance you can see marble towers rising out of the forest, it is supposed to be a beautiful city with friendly citizens.

Lets see what you people can come up with.

07.07.2006 15:48

DarkAsmodeous
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A good retexture of the bravil towers might be able to look very nice.

07.07.2006 17:10

TheImperialDragon
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Ayleid?

Gotta go again, see you again (probably, hehehe).

07.07.2006 18:27

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FLESH
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Ok guys, I know exactly how I am going to make this city, and If I can do whats in my head, then it will look truly outstanding. Ok I need the following meshes, A big marble wall, that is wide at the bottom, but gets thinner as going to the top, the wall should be as big as the wall Razorwing used for Soluthis, A ramblings wall, but for that I need to explain how the city is going to be laid out,

Ok here goes, the Four towers Of Silvenar, the wall is going to be in an arrow shape, the top being where you enter, when you enter you see the first tower of the Market and living district, the shops are at the bottom, and the comoners live in the wall, The wall is called The Ramblings, to the west Ramblings wall, we have the arena district, to the east ramblings wall, we have the Temple District, Now the backbone of the arrow, that which makes it go,

The Palace district, where the Tallest and best tower is located, the king of Silvern and the nobles live here, also the guild of mages, and the guild of fighters, Now you know how the city is going to be laid out, I will draw a rough picture with photoshop (YAY I GOT PHOTOSHOP) so you can understand the layout better.

I think the ramblings would be pretty unique, this is how they work, The bottom of the wall (the wide part) is where the more well off commoners live, it is two storeys, aften being doubled as a tavern or shop, above that we have a smaller house, with one storey, and then above that, we have two small houses side my side one storey, There is a left side and a right side to each Rambling.

So that means the layout I just gave is used by only one side, so that means each wall contains 8 houses, We need someone to make the interior for this aswell.

With the picture you should understand better how its going to look like, I am sure this city is going to make for a great demo.

BTW: I am the mayor of this city, soon two other cities will be open for mayoring (Something me and DA discussed).

Everything is going full steam ahead guys Dancing Banana

08.07.2006 11:15

DarkAsmodeous
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Outstanding, and I have recently...aquiered a copy of photoshop myself for the .raw files. I realy have a lot on my hands at the moment with things to do, so I won't be modeling at the moment, but I'l poke around for some Morrowind modders resources meshes we can use.

08.07.2006 20:11

FLESH
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Damn I cant attach the picture or put it in photobucket because its a different file format. I thought I would post the pic to people knew what hsapes of walls I needed. About the walls, any takers to make them for us?

EDIT: I put it in 7z, hope you can look at it somehow, It's not an artistic drawing but you should be able to make out what I had in mind.

Attachment:

Untitled-1.7z (43.32 KB, 17 downloads)

This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by FLESH: 09.07.2006 13:35.

09.07.2006 13:21

KuKulzA
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you did it in .psd? how about try to export it as a .jpg or a .gif and put in on Imageshack or photobucket?
cause I can't see the image in your .7z Frown

... I mean I tried opening it and everything...

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09.07.2006 16:20

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FLESH
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Thats what photoshop saved it as Frown

I don't know what to do.

09.07.2006 16:33

KuKulzA
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quote:

Originally posted by FLESH
Thats what photoshop saved it as Frown

I don't know what to do.

yeah go to export then choose what type to export, but if you don't do that (or save as a jpeg or gif or whatever) then it will automatically do .psd
I don't have photoshop but I have used it before... wish I had it

but I don't Frown

09.07.2006 19:11

FLESH
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Hope this one works, Its a PNG file.

EDIT: I know, I'm no artist.

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09.07.2006 19:17

KuKulzA
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pretty good.. but don't forget...

quote:

the streets of Silvenar, crossing bridges of amber, admiring the petrified forest architecture. In front of a particularly estimable palace of silvery reflective crystal, he found Prithala Hall.

so maybe also lots of petrified trees about... and maybe they all look silver-grey/white? and maybe lots of bridges and such between the tops of the petrified trees... and maybe homes on the top of the petrified trees?

I dunno, just a few thoughts

EDIT: and don't forget the Green Pact, Bosmer don't use vegetation

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09.07.2006 19:47

TheImperialDragon
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Marble? Ayleid-ish architecture?

09.07.2006 19:50

FLESH
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OMG HOW COULD I FORGET TO POST ABOUT THE BRIGES. That was an idea I had but it must have slipped my mind, they won't be living in the trees for this city (although villages would almost always be in the trees). Hmm coincidence that I am going to use trees instead of guard towers even though I have not ever read that? Well its a bloody good one Tongue

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Kukulza did you click on the image? It brings up a bigger picture, I acctually wrote stuff there.

EDIT: Although the brigers slipped my mind the green pact stays firm. TID, yes marble for the houses (although clutred with vines and such so low res for those, The walls will be gleaming marble like the parasols in some of the pics razor posted for the new Alpha.

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09.07.2006 19:51

KuKulzA
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sounds good to me Good job!

09.07.2006 19:59

TheImperialDragon
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To me too.

09.07.2006 20:36

FLESH
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Cool, I've begun the city, using the IC walls as place holders. The layout is almost complete.

09.07.2006 21:54

DarkAsmodeous
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Let me know if anything on this http://www.morrowind-mod.com/Buildings New 3.htm page is of any use

09.07.2006 23:57

raggidman
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Aaaarrrghh, this raggidman came accross a thread that had a reference to Silvenar, got timed out of his connection and had to leave this 'till later, and now Blush

can't remember where it was. Buuuut the gist was this:

that Silvenar was NOT built by the Bosmer - so that backs up pretty much any non-bosmer architecture (whatever Bosmer Architecture looks like.)

Doubble Aaaaaaarrrrghh? IS THERE THE BOSMER ARCHITECTURE IN ARENA and WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?

Trebble AAAAAARRRGGGGHHH: That goes for all the associated mods :total shame: I have never played Arena. I am unworthy Crying

09.07.2006 23:57

DarkAsmodeous
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The buildings in arena are all the same. Think of a perfectly square box. Now start stacking the boxes, that is arena's architecture.

09.07.2006 23:58

KuKulzA
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quote:

Originally posted by DarkAsmodeous
The buildings in arena are all the same. Think of a perfectly square box. Now start stacking the boxes, that is arena's architecture.

and add to that semi-2D looing graphics

10.07.2006 00:00

TheImperialDragon
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Well, I remember plenty of stain-glass windows.

10.07.2006 00:07

DarkAsmodeous
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Think Doom, but a Doom that doesn't look as nice.

10.07.2006 00:07

ghostruler
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I was reading something that ImperialDragon sent me that had something about Silvenar I think.

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10.07.2006 00:13

TheImperialDragon
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http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=...&query=Silvenar

Start digging!

10.07.2006 00:16

FLESH
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DA the link you gave me doesn't seem to work?

10.07.2006 12:01

TheImperialDragon
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You mean TID, or DA?

Anyways, here are the links, have fun! Brew

http://til.gamingsource.net/mwbooks/danceinfire.shtml
http://til.gamingsource.net/mwbooks/treachery.shtml
http://til.gamingsource.net/goblades.shtml (this one is kind of unrelyable, but interesting)
http://til.gamingsource.net/obbooks/madness_pelagius.shtml
http://til.gamingsource.net/dfbooks/b103...te_empire.shtml
http://til.gamingsource.net/pge/aldmeridominion.shtml
http://til.gamingsource.net/jobasha/dreadful_theft.shtml
http://til.gamingsource.net/obbooks/wolf_queen.shtml

10.07.2006 18:16

DarkAsmodeous
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http://www.morrowind-mod.com/ You have to hit meshes and textures, and hit the next button a ton of times, they realy need an index.

10.07.2006 18:26

FLESH
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quote:

Originally posted by TheImperialDragon
You mean TID, or DA?

Anyways, here are the links, have fun! Brew

An interesting link the 3rd one, acctually I had found it before and thats what I plan to make the arena ques line like. Thats why I want an arena in every major city. I could swear I told someone this?

EDIT: DA all those meshes seem to be for MW? I thought we were looking for OB meshes we could use?

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10.07.2006 18:35

DarkAsmodeous
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Morrowind meshes are plentiful, and work just as well, they just need new textures. They are made the same way, and you just get one that doesn't show off its low polycount. Oblivion buildings... I know of none.

10.07.2006 18:55

TheImperialDragon
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Well, they might be compatible, just as long as they aren't retexes or reuses of textures from the Morrowind game... As long as we don't use assets that Beth made, it should be alright (I think)

10.07.2006 18:56

DarkAsmodeous
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absolututely fine.

10.07.2006 19:03

FLESH
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DA I looked through the link you gave me, but do you know that they added an index? Lmao right after you give me the link they put up an index :lmao:

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Ok here are the links:

http://www.morrowind-mod.com/imagesmr/Ve...elothiStyle.jpg
http://www.morrowind-mod.com/imagesmr/Ve...rCyrodilMed.jpg
http://www.morrowind-mod.com/imagesmr/Fi...waterPalace.jpg
http://www.morrowind-mod.com/imagesmr/Fidel/Sky%20City.jpg
http://www.morrowind-mod.com/imagesmr/Do...ngTreeHouse.jpg
http://www.morrowind-mod.com/imagesmr/Mi...uralPillars.jpg

Armour:
http://www.morrowind-mod.com/imagesmr/Dr...lete%20Sets.jpg

13.07.2006 11:04

DarkAsmodeous
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I don't think we can use armours from Morrowind, the marble pillars look particularly useful, the velothi may give away its origins, and I love the imperial house.

13.07.2006 19:39

FLESH
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quote:

Originally posted by DarkAsmodeous
I don't think we can use armours from Morrowind, the marble pillars look particularly useful, the velothi may give away its origins, and I love the imperial house.

I think we could use the tree house. Add a top to it, replace the wood with magicaly bent branches (that is how I think the tree houses should be made, it is under discussion, tell me what you think) and we have our tree villages. Maybe move the houses a bit higher up.

13.07.2006 19:58

DarkAsmodeous
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For tress houses, I say we use edited real speedcadtrees, your call though

13.07.2006 20:00

DarkAsmodeous
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For tress houses, I say we use edited real speedcadtrees, your call though

13.07.2006 20:00

FLESH
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quote:

Originally posted by DarkAsmodeous
For tress houses, I say we use edited real speedcadtrees, your call though

I'm not sure which is better Eek 1

13.07.2006 20:03

TheImperialDragon
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quote:

Originally posted by DarkAsmodeous
For tress houses, I say we use edited real speedcadtrees, your call though

quote:

Originally posted by DarkAsmodeous
For tress houses, I say we use edited real speedcadtrees, your call though

I say the first... What is speedcadtrees anyway?

13.07.2006 20:05

DarkAsmodeous
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Speedcad is used to create the tree format that oblivion uses, all the trees that came with the game were speedcad.

13.07.2006 20:08

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Then we use speedcad I guess.

I don't think that every tree in Valenwood should be huge, maybe more inland, but not on the coasts.

13.07.2006 20:09

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