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kingevil
Inactive ST modder

Registration Date: 20.07.2006
Posts: 794
Location: belgium

I got the tree ingame. The correct spt file will be attached with my islands.

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07.11.2006 20:05

Arbiter
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Registration Date: 24.10.2005
Posts: 2,633
Location: Croatia the Nether-Bringer

quote:

Originally posted by kingevil
I got the tree ingame . The correct spt file will be attached with my islands .

Wohoo! Very cool looking. Good job!

Imagine a forest of those with otherworldly light.

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07.11.2006 20:16

kingevil
Inactive ST modder

Registration Date: 20.07.2006
Posts: 794
Location: belgium

quote:

Originally posted by Arbiter

quote:

Originally posted by kingevil
I got the tree ingame . The correct spt file will be attached with my islands .

Wohoo! Very cool looking. Good job!

Imagine a forest of those with otherworldly light.

credit or that one goes to walrus . I only got it ingame .

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''On a scale of importance from one to ten I think it's fair to say that breathing rates about a 9.7 or 9.8. Maybe even a little higher. It's up there with "having a beating heart" and "not being on fire.''-SA

07.11.2006 20:17

Arbiter
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Location: Croatia the Nether-Bringer

I just said it looks cool.

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07.11.2006 20:27

FLESH
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Registration Date: 23.06.2006
Posts: 2,824
Location: Ireland

Looking very cool Good job!

Great work walrus, and thanks for getting it ingame KingE

07.11.2006 20:28

Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 2,250
Location: Netherlands

Looking good

07.11.2006 20:29

walrus
First Knight

Registration Date: 06.03.2006
Posts: 191

I'm glad everyone likes it. I wasn't expecting it to look quite so nice myself. Thanks for getting it in game kingE. I'll get those mangroves to you at some point but it will take me a while since the polygon count is still way, way too high and don't have too much time to work on it for the next couple of days.

08.11.2006 00:33

walrus
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Registration Date: 06.03.2006
Posts: 191

Alright I think I have another rainforrest tree that might work but the mangrove trees are still taking way to many polygons. The problem is that since their branches hand down at a level where the player can see them u[ close they have to have a higher polygon count so that they look good. Also since the idea is that they form a tightly nit mesh of roots I have to make many many high poly branches which means I have many many many polygons. There are several possible solutions I'm looking into but we'll see how things turn out.

What does everyone thing about this tree:

Its not based on anything I just thought it might work to diversify. What all of you think?

This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by walrus: 10.11.2006 01:04.

09.11.2006 23:54

FLESH
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Registration Date: 23.06.2006
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Location: Ireland

Looks good, but what is that branch doing just jutting out like that? Hoe many polys is it currently? (mangrove).

10.11.2006 09:11

walrus
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Registration Date: 06.03.2006
Posts: 191

I'm not sure about the branch I'll try to fix that. As for the poly count its 17000 but that is down from 32000 and I'm still trying to lower it.

10.11.2006 10:21

raggidman
Prince

Registration Date: 06.01.2006
Posts: 3,317
Location: where my heart is

del

This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by raggidman: 19.04.2008 17:50.

10.11.2006 13:28

walrus
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Registration Date: 06.03.2006
Posts: 191

quote:

Originally posted by raggidman
Your mangrove has made me think - can you use root patterns for branches and then bug leaves on them to Speedtree more flexible and different branch structures?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean. My idea was to have the branches hang down like roots and then create a leaf that looks like the hair on roots. That way they will have a nice swampy/tropical natural feel to them.
Unfortunately I'm thinking the mangroves may have to be modeled by hand since I don't think that Speedtree can do anything quite like them. I'll draw up a complete concept and see what other people think.

newtree1 Uses default bark and leaves
New Tree 2 Uses the BradfordPearBark and the AmurCorkLeaves

This post has been edited 4 time(s), it was last edited by walrus: 10.11.2006 23:01.

10.11.2006 17:25

FLESH
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Registration Date: 23.06.2006
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Location: Ireland

Yeah, just edit a couple of things and that should be it. I can have a look if you don't know how to do it Walrus?

12.11.2006 13:47

walrus
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Registration Date: 06.03.2006
Posts: 191

I've already got the cross section and length of the branches really low and the trunk similarly has a low cross section and length count. Is there something else I can do to lower the poly count.

I may be unable to mod for a while since I've had HD problems and may end up needing to reformat.

This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by walrus: 12.11.2006 23:02.

12.11.2006 23:01

Durdain
Baron

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 400
Location: Wigan, England

Thats a shame, how long would a reformat take?

Dont stay away to long!

12.11.2006 23:18

FLESH
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Registration Date: 23.06.2006
Posts: 2,824
Location: Ireland

quote:

Originally posted by Durdain
Thats a shame, how long would a reformat take?

Dont stay away to long!

Indeed, it was not the same without you for all that time

13.11.2006 18:57

walrus
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Registration Date: 06.03.2006
Posts: 191

HD troubles are temporarily solved although I should do a clean install of windows at some point over the next couple weeks.
Flesh, I'll post the mangroves if you want to have a look at them but the polygon count will be tough to reduce.

13.11.2006 22:07

FLESH
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Registration Date: 23.06.2006
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Location: Ireland

17K Is just fine (thats what it was, correct?).

13.11.2006 22:57

walrus
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Registration Date: 06.03.2006
Posts: 191

Yeah it was about 17K. That seems a bit high to me but you know better. I still want to add that root hair leaf to it though.
Here is the mangrove tree, just use a stock speedtree or oblivion texture until I can figure out my idea for root leaves.
http://rapidshare.com/files/3398772/Mangrove3.spt.html

This post has been edited 4 time(s), it was last edited by walrus: 15.11.2006 02:07.

14.11.2006 08:01

windsurfer
Seigneur

Registration Date: 03.10.2006
Posts: 639

So how are the trees coming along, any updates as these are one of the most important parts to this mod.

This post has been edited 1 time(s), it was last edited by windsurfer: 14.12.2006 21:28.

14.12.2006 21:28

walrus
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Registration Date: 06.03.2006
Posts: 191

I've been away from my computer but I'll be back in about a week so hopefully I'll make some progress then. Can't wait to have all the trees and statics in the CS so I can make an awesome city.

08.01.2007 04:53

raggidman
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Registration Date: 06.01.2006
Posts: 3,317
Location: where my heart is

Lookin forward to sein you back! Pleased

08.01.2007 14:30

walrus
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Registration Date: 06.03.2006
Posts: 191

I'm really looking forward to getting back to my computer and creating some new tree models. Also can't wait add some trees and do some environment building in southpoint.

11.01.2007 02:59

walrus
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Registration Date: 06.03.2006
Posts: 191

I was thinking that having some static flora pieces would be really usefull. For instance root models and branch models would be quite useful so that they could come out from between stones.

12.01.2007 21:20

FLESH
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Registration Date: 23.06.2006
Posts: 2,824
Location: Ireland

Vanilla OB has root models, they are seen in caves and dungeons. The flowers and various plants we could use, the more unique everything looks the better. Which brings me to a question, how many OB plants would be common around the Valenwood area? Hmm, something that should be checked out.

12.01.2007 22:16

Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 2,250
Location: Netherlands

We only got 2 neigthbours, Cyrodiil and Elsewyr Wink

So just an agreement with Elsewyr. Ok and well we could use plants from Summerset Isle, but hey that isn't a BC project anymore Tongue

13.01.2007 13:39

Demayetay
Swordsman

Registration Date: 04.01.2007
Posts: 19

Treees!

Now I dont really know how to make objects that move... but I love trees... what if I drew some concepts (I can run and just do that now) posted them here, and see which ones you guys liked? Then you can give me a go ahead (if you like any) and I can get started... Only issue is that I don't know how to add leaves (i know its like one or two polygons with a 2D texture) or get that swaying effect. If you know how to do that in Blender or can do it with the blender file I make, tell me

i'll e-mail the blender files to you when i'm done.

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28.03.2007 01:10

Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 2,250
Location: Netherlands

Trees are made with Speedtree, and I so hope we'll use some freaky trees from SI

28.03.2007 02:00

walrus
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Posts: 191

Click Me

29.05.2007 23:04

Mormacil
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The point of that lovely thumbnail? Tongue

29.05.2007 23:17

walrus
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Registration Date: 06.03.2006
Posts: 191

I just thought that linking to the book might inspire people to make tree models. I mean the book is filled with amazing pictures of trees. Look how small the guy in that picture is.

30.05.2007 00:33