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Yeah that would be great thanks Good job!
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Here is the link: http://rapidshare.com/files/17885305/Val...phaV10.rar.html
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Is it just me or is Arenthia stupidly big Eek 1 . It must be way bigger than the IC. Even on a horse it takes ages to ride around. This is the first time I've ever had a look. I also personally think out heightmap is to large (bigger than Cyrodil?) but thats not an easy thing to change now!!
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That big? Never noticed it, I mean it's just a town split in two bit in the middle a hill with a castle. For the record IC is way to small and towns aren't that big in the center of VW, in fact we will have tons of villages.
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That big? Never noticed it, I mean it's just a town split in two bit in the middle a hill with a castle. For the record IC is way to small and towns aren't that big in the center of VW, in fact we will have tons of villages.

I agree the IC should be bigger. I like the castle bit but the area below just seems huge to me, there is way to much open space. This wont be covered in buildings as there is enough already + the walls wouldn't have been made that big if they are just protecting grass. I presume this is the capital?
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No, but one of the major cities because it's on the outskirts and therefor has not as much trouble with the jungle. It's a trading town and the streets will get more crowded. Simply add some stalls, crates and such and trees and it looks better. But yeah it's a little bit big and I suggested a market near on of those towers in the lower area.
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No, but one of the major cities because it's on the outskirts and therefor has not as much trouble with the jungle. It's a trading town and the streets will get more crowded. Simply add some stalls, crates and such and trees and it looks better. But yeah it's a little bit big and I suggested a market near on of those towers in the lower area.


Yer it will be much better then, I personally would remove half of the lower section (10 buildings). This would leave plenty of area for that sort of thing. Another major problem is that from the castle you can see over the walls, the area surrounding therefore has to be landscaped like the real HM.

EDIT: Eek 1 The HM is 33635 cells Eek 1 How many is cyrodil? Is this normal?

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No, but one of the major cities because it's on the outskirts and therefor has not as much trouble with the jungle. It's a trading town and the streets will get more crowded. Simply add some stalls, crates and such and trees and it looks better. But yeah it's a little bit big and I suggested a market near on of those towers in the lower area.


Yer it will be much better then, I personally would remove half of the lower section (10 buildings). This would leave plenty of area for that sort of thing. Another major problem is that from the castle you can see over the walls, the area surrounding therefore has to be landscaped like the real HM.

EDIT: Eek 1 The HM is 33635 cells Eek 1 How many is cyrodil? Is this normal?


Cyrodill is 16 quads (1 quad = 32x32 cells) and our map is 25, that includes borders so in reality I would say about 20 quads. I am revising the lower area, as I just don't like how it looks, too much space that I have not filled properly. And yes Arenthia is part of the HM, unlike Oblivion, so there will be no loading when entering and leaving the city.

Valenwood will be a mix, with some cities in their own WS because they are just to big ( e.g. Falinesti, Silvenar).
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FLESH - good to have you back :D . Hows everything going, so you havn't left us for good. The islands are coming along great with the exterior jungle almost complete. A fair amount of the interiors have been claimed. Lots of good ideas for layout and creature rextex have been in discussion lately. Shame about you having to leave for a while again but Valenwood should no way get in the way RL.

Suppose the landmass is not that big, soon as we get regions done a majority can be generated. Seperate smaller uniques cliams can be released. Arenthia just seems huge when I looked with everyhting too spread out in my opinion.
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FLESH!

20 quads eh? Good luck to you, Elsweyr in the end elected for 16 including border quads, a tad smaller sure, but still big enough.
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It is FLESH!!

You pry don't know me, yet. :D
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Who's that guy on your avatar anyway? Tongue
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Me? Oh it is my character, OBmon.
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Thought so Tongue
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FLESH!

20 quads eh? Good luck to you, Elsweyr in the end elected for 16 including border quads, a tad smaller sure, but still big enough.


Actually it's been rethought, I too agree the size is a tad over ambitious. Now it will be 20 quads total (5x4, Valenwood is taller that she is wider) and that would come around to 16 quads of playing area. We will see how it all works out, transferring already made land shouldn't be much of a problem, and if it doesn't work we always have something to fall back to.

And of course our island mod is unaffected by this thanks to windsurfer insisting on using his own ESM :D And you may not know me OB Mon, but I know you Wink
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Would it be possible to copy my island to the main landmass when there is suitable progress on it? Can you copy part of a landmass then cut everything on the islands and place back down? If not it doesn't really matter a boat will just link the two as it is still quite far to swim =)
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Would it be possible to copy my island to the main landmass when there is suitable progress on it? Can you copy part of a landmass then cut everything on the islands and place back down? If not it doesn't really matter a boat will just link the two as it is still quite far to swim =)


We can copy/paste for one area to another from my knowledge, as for geographical properties, you would have to redo them.
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I just learned yesterday that you can copy from the CS.
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I just learned yesterday that you can copy from the CS.


Hehe

I think bethsoft should come up with a better more easier tool, a lot of companies are adapted these amazing tools that make games more realistic and more easy at the same time. Look at Crytech Engine 2
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NO!

The CS is quite fine with me, just add variable support and its perfect.
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I'm looking forward to the Project Offset engine, it looks very promising :) Hope to get my hands on it in the future.
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Yay someone else who knows about Project Offset! Great!

I am just saying with the next TESCS we need a better region editor, better water, like waves that do not need to be placed, and a more immersive AI tool that is more complex where we can make an NPC do something for a minute not an hour at minimum. Those are my problems but everything else is perfect-ish.
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OblivionMon, one minute is exactly 2 SECONDS. It's useless and would confuse the engine as it would get conflicting instructions in the middle of an animation. An hour is 2 minutes, PERFECTLY acceptable for schedualing.
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Yeah I guess u r right :D
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The one thing I can definately agree with oyu on is, while maybe not a better region editor, a far more intuitive GUI for it.
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Speaking of region editing does anyone have an ETA for the heightmap? I'd like to work on the Southpoint area.
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That's not region editor, that's heightmap editor Wink

I spoke with FLESH this morning and he said Vality agreed to do it.
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And I would get him a region map, on which I'm still working Wink
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When he said morm is making a region map... I... thought he said Mom... :lmao:
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Well now you know Tongue
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