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Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 2,252
Location: Netherlands

People and places

Well just as I made a thread about quests, this one is about special people and places. If you got an idea for a little easter egg, etc, place them here. Think of things as creeper, the orc house with bones in the fireplaces. CHest Nut stables with no horses, M'Qar the liar etc.

I'll start Tongue

-House, owned by 3 orcs with a bosmer harem Wink

-The family of Fargoth, thinking he's a great merchant and a powerfull man in Vvardenvell.

Mormacil

03.11.2006 16:42

kingevil
Inactive ST modder

Registration Date: 20.07.2006
Posts: 794
Location: belgium

return of the paranoid bosmer , the paranoid bosmer returnerned to VW because he was sure the oranisasion was after him again . Now he once more asks for your protection .

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03.11.2006 16:47

kingevil
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Location: belgium

I have another :two owl having this conversation :

1: O RLY ?
2: YA RLY !
1: NO WAI !

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03.11.2006 18:06

Arbiter
Archduke

Registration Date: 24.10.2005
Posts: 2,633
Location: Croatia the Nether-Bringer

...............................Wha? Confused

I'll stop trying.

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03.11.2006 18:46

kingevil
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Posts: 794
Location: belgium

___
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_RLY%3F

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YA RLY

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NO WAI!

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''On a scale of importance from one to ten I think it's fair to say that breathing rates about a 9.7 or 9.8. Maybe even a little higher. It's up there with "having a beating heart" and "not being on fire.''-SA

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03.11.2006 18:52

FLESH
Archduke

Registration Date: 23.06.2006
Posts: 2,824
Location: Ireland

Please don't spam. I like the Fargoth idea. The Ork one just makes me laugh :lmao:

03.11.2006 18:53

Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 2,252
Location: Netherlands

Hyppogryph farms, I done a very bad sketch some time ago, basically it's a stone (slaughter)house with a big and a small meadow for the hyppogryphs. See it as a pigfarm. These H-farms acan be found in the north and east, closer to Elsewyr and Cyrodill.

06.11.2006 17:09

Durdain
Baron

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 400
Location: Wigan, England

Hippogryphs are wonderful magical beasts! We can have them in slaughter houses! Tongue

At least thats how I always thought of them..

06.11.2006 18:23

Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 2,252
Location: Netherlands

Have you seen the Hippogryph art made by Lutemoth?

By no means ferocious or nasty. In fact, quite docile, and easily spooked. This species has been bred for food, and has grown to such. Vestigial wings, parrot-like face, and soft, vibrantly coloured down feathers characterize this beast. Average size is between that of a horse and a dog

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06.11.2006 18:25

Durdain
Baron

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 400
Location: Wigan, England

awwww, well should be pretty cool seeing them like that anyway tis a very nice concept.

Perhaps we could have a wild, bigger beastie variant at some point in the future. Cool

06.11.2006 18:53

Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 2,252
Location: Netherlands

You see it's perfect cattle? Tongue

Yeah a somewhat wilder variant isn't a bad idea. But what do you think of my Hyppogryph farm?

06.11.2006 18:55

Durdain
Baron

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
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Location: Wigan, England

Yeh sounds good, I can picture those guys grazing in a meadow somewhere..awaiting the abattoir!

Would bring a lot of character to farms etc in VW.

06.11.2006 19:00

Arbiter
Archduke

Registration Date: 24.10.2005
Posts: 2,633
Location: Croatia the Nether-Bringer

Hmmm.... I thought it was declared it's too..... gentle.

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06.11.2006 19:41

Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 2,252
Location: Netherlands

Ok not really a place, but placenames.
Villages:
Bracklewood
Roothold
Thornkeep
Arrowhead
Oakvalley
Y'ffre Grace
Imperial fort:
Rosekeep
There just an idea Tongue

07.11.2006 22:57

Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 2,252
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Ok I got 2 places this time. Damn I can't get 2 headlines I just read out of my head. First one is Elder woman sells drugs to kids second one is Belgium dograpist goes free. I mean wtf... You must love the world now days, anyway back on topic.

First place I came up with. I got this idea last night, spend whole day remembering what it was. It's some sort of Oblivion Plane. It's either for Y'ffre or Sheogorath. It's a place without any real logic/order. It's a forest area (Cyrodill style trees e.g.) The small ponds and lakes are made lava, so the shore is some rock. Further you got floating rocks. On the bigger ones you got trees growing. Above the lava you'll get steam, from the steam I want a waterfall to go upwards into rocks floating above it. I think we cna up with some more things as well. This place I think will be best questrelated, maybe MQ.

Second place I came up with it a small bay almost hidden between cliffs. It's rocky and very small. At the end you got a small waterfall. Near the opening you got a few meters beach, really small. On it you'll find mudcrabs and a skeleton with next to it a journal. In the journal you read how this guys ship was wrecked in a storm and he woke up here, lost. He survived for a long time, he could swim to the waterfall for some water and he could kill mudcrabs with his saber and eat them. Only after time, his saber became blunt. At some point you read he coul'd kill the mudcrabs anymore, he could just bash them with his blade. Then you read how they finally wound him and he gets a fever and the mudcrabs get closer while he gets weaker, then you'll find some blood on the last page, then nothing

Next to the skeleton you also find a broken saber. If you swim around the bay you maybe find the skeletons ship?

Mormacil

08.11.2006 20:00

FLESH
Archduke

Registration Date: 23.06.2006
Posts: 2,824
Location: Ireland

Wow, you're full of these things ey Morm? I don't think Y'ffre is a Deadra, but Sheogorath sounds like a good candidate to own this place. I've got a pretty clear image of it, but why only associate it with the MQ? Wouldn't it be great to have amazing ideas that have nothing to do with the MQ?

08.11.2006 20:57

Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 2,252
Location: Netherlands

At least a big questline I think. I mean it's a pretty big place and you'll need a portal to get there. So that requires either great magic or a daedraprince

08.11.2006 21:28

walrus
First Knight

Registration Date: 06.03.2006
Posts: 194

Wow that the lava and trees and floating rocks thingy sounds really cool. A quest would be good since it is so interesting and unique a quest.

08.11.2006 22:07

Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 2,252
Location: Netherlands

Hmm, fairylights... moving lights taht fly very fast, like mini willowisps, but not aggresive. Purple ones. That could be fun, moving from tree to tree. Maybe a slightly purple skybox, just not real blue anymore. Increase the feeling that something isn't right. Maybe an oversized cave entrance, really a big open mouth...

09.11.2006 01:23

Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 2,252
Location: Netherlands

Ok another place:
One town should have this huge, huge market area. Trees are used to make stalls/tents with ropes and hides. The richer merchants have bodyguards. You relly should be able get everything there. This city should be either at the Cyrodill border or at the sea.

13.11.2006 08:16

Durdain
Baron

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Location: Wigan, England

sounds like a good port city, I read that Bosmer are fascinated with human imports - carvings etc so it would be fun to have a multicultural hustle and bustle market place.

13.11.2006 12:51

Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 2,252
Location: Netherlands

That's the idea yeah

Al kinds of races can be found here.

13.11.2006 13:47

FLESH
Archduke

Registration Date: 23.06.2006
Posts: 2,824
Location: Ireland

I love that idea. Since you say all sort of races could be found there, we could make this market into the city Haven, since it sounds like what it may be. That market sounds like my dream place though

13.11.2006 19:15

walrus
First Knight

Registration Date: 06.03.2006
Posts: 194

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.......... /.................\
......... /. ..................\
.........|........RIP.........|
.........|...... FPS.........|
.........|.Here lies FPS..|
.........|.....................|
.........|.....................|

Seriously though while I love the idea I think FPS will be the problem

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13.11.2006 21:56

Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 2,252
Location: Netherlands

Why?

edit:
I found a book in OB mentioning a certain rank among VW archers. The Jaqspur, a long distance shooter. Maybe a possible enemy?

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13.11.2006 22:07

FLESH
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I have absolutely no doubt that a city like that would have fine FPS, no doubt in my mind. FPS works cell by cell on the computer (while on the 360 it's the whole world, hence world spaces, yes it was mostly for the 360, but also for RAI). It matters about how many triangles/polies in a cell, 250K is the limit we should be having. The trees in the densest part of Arenthia are only 100-140K.

13.11.2006 23:03

walrus
First Knight

Registration Date: 06.03.2006
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Its not the polygons of the environment so much as the polygons of the NPC's and the AI that I'm worried about.

14.11.2006 08:06

FLESH
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Location: Ireland

Ahh I see. There wont be too many in one place at a time. RAI for this would be pretty simple, and purely cosmetic me thinks.

14.11.2006 10:18

walrus
First Knight

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As long as there aren't too many people it should be fine. Its just that npcs can really up the polygon count and cause the game to stutter.

14.11.2006 23:33

raggidman
Prince

Registration Date: 06.01.2006
Posts: 3,318
Location: where my heart is

That might be handled by the structure of the market - if there are loads of small twisty alleys then you might see only so many NPCs at a time ?

15.11.2006 00:01

Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 2,252
Location: Netherlands

It was designed to be created by bosmer using trees and tents. But we can try to plsit it up in different cells.

15.11.2006 00:20

raggidman
Prince

Registration Date: 06.01.2006
Posts: 3,318
Location: where my heart is

Hedges of bushes, trees, giant flowers.

15.11.2006 00:28

Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 2,252
Location: Netherlands

another intresting place:
A big ship in the top of a group of trees. How it got there?
1) Dwemer Flying ship like in Solstheim
2) A flood dropped it their, trees might have pushed it up
3) Weird bosmer thinks the world is omming through an end by a huge flood and build himself a boat, in time the trees have grown and he couldn't move the boat.
Now, when the player finds it, it's used as a house. Might want it to be a bandit den.

24.12.2006 01:58

FLESH
Archduke

Registration Date: 23.06.2006
Posts: 2,824
Location: Ireland

quote:

Originally posted by Mormacil
another intresting place:
A big ship in the top of a group of trees. How it got there?

3) Weird bosmer thinks the world is omming through an end by a huge flood and build himself a boat, in time the trees have grown and he couldn't move the boat.

That is brilliant! I love this one the most.

24.12.2006 11:06

Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 2,252
Location: Netherlands

Ok another unique place. A cloister (by Imperials?) dedicated to the god that's know by the Bosmer as the god of currency e.g., I forgot his name Blush

Anyway, it's a nice cloister in the woods. It's build like a square with a big courtyard, all along the side/walls there little shops ran by the monks. They're great merchants and have a large selection fo goods for trade.

Some sell books, or potions, or spells or weaponry, armor, clothing, enchanted items, ingredients etc. etc.

I imaging the monks to wear a brown robe and a hood. Not sure if there any nuns, I guess not Wink

20.03.2007 00:32

Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 2,252
Location: Netherlands

Great responce on my last idea. Anyway I got a new idea. Since Prometheus posted some desert pics on ESF, I've been thinking. So far I got a nice idea. As a change from lore and especially forests, I say we include another plain of Oblivion or a dream. The world is a desert (suprice! Tongue

) Anyway, I think the player wakes up in a small village. People aren't very nice, mostly Dunmer I think, they fit very well. As workers you got either a new race of Nord like people, or (modified) Meat Atronaches. We could also make them mountable

Besides beeing mounts they're used for the little farming there is, possible by irrigration.

From there the player has to find his way out/pleasing the Prince. Perhaps he has to find a cave and defeat an enemy. An old wizard? To make it a real challange we add sandstorms that damage the player Wink

21.03.2007 23:56

windsurfer
Seigneur

Registration Date: 03.10.2006
Posts: 639

quote:

Originally posted by Mormacil
Great responce on my last idea. Anyway I got a new idea. Since Prometheus posted some desert pics on ESF, I've been thinking. So far I got a nice idea. As a change from lore and especially forests, I say we include another plain of Oblivion or a dream. The world is a desert (suprice! Tongue

The problem is you have too any ideas

, whiile we lack the modders to put them all into game Bash