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Here's the updated drawing. I changed the head shape some so it was smaller, shortening the beak size, and made the neck slimmer. The chest has been slimmed, and the back slimmed as well. The arms are as thin as I felt I could make them, and I also thinned out the thighs.

I expanded up the other art some, adding feathering, the abdominal muscles, and a frontal view of the head to show how it keeps relatively human shape. Notice the abs are bare of any feathering.



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FC4, think real vultures though, and Hircines attitude, vultures prey on the weak and the wounded, they would follow injured prey, taunting in a group, while the injured animal is defending itself from one angle, another vulture will jump in and tear at it from another, then once one gets a bite they will all start pecking until its overcome and is eatn alive while its life slips away!

Thats evil and natural and I'm sure Hircine would love it. A lot of hunting doesnt involve worthy prey. Vultures are definitely hunters when compared to rich business men who go to Africa to shoot pre-caught, drugged lions and rhinos. Thats my version of Hircines choice, to show another aspect of the hunt! Also compared to 10 horsemen and 80 Foxhounds hunting 1 exhausted fox. The vulture wins again! :)

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Drawing looks great, again, not a sketch :D Seems more glide capable, but also still very cumbersome as it should be IMO.
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is anyone free to just model this and see how it looks in game. ideally to a point that its walking.

OR WOULD IT? A real vultures wingspan is about 4 times that of its body in flight (tip of beak to tip of tail feathers.) So to convince it could glide I think the wings would have to be about twice the legnth they are now which wouldn't work. I think it would look good enough just flapping insanely while squarking/roaring and running at you. I dont think it needs to glide too much.

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It would be cool if this thing ran at you flapping and screaming. Quite terrifying in groups. I don't think we have any creature modelers (requires a whole different type of modeling).
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definitely requires a whole different type of modeling.

Also, wingspan is from wingtip to wingtip, not beak to tail feathers.

I think it could glide short distances, and you would not see it very high up in the air at all. definitely NOT over the tree tops. You could always lengthening the wings I have drawn, as this is just concept art.

I see it walking on four legs more than two. Using its knuckles in a manner similar to the gorilla. That would be for average walking. Speed would be flapping its wings while running haphazardly after you.

And tree climbing.

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I was just thinking about how we can make them climb trees. I don't think we would be able to pull off anything Euphoria Engine like where it reacts differently to every tree and the circumstances at which it is climing, but would we be able to make it spread it's arms wider/shorter depending on the size of the trunk?
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FC4 'A real vultures wingspan is about 4 times that of its body in flight (tip of beak to tip of tail feathers.)' I was just comparing the wingspan to the size of the bird. Dont worry I know what a wingspan is! lol

Also FC4 said 'I see it walking on four legs more than two. Using its knuckles in a manner similar to the gorilla. That would be for average walking. Speed would be flapping its wings while running haphazardly after you.' this is how I imagine it too. So they look quite calm and sedate if not a little scary, then run at you screeching!

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So, what changes should be made to the concept art?

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I dunno coz this isn't a real vulture. Think we need to decide if this glides or anything, if so its wings should be longer for realism, if not its fine! :D

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I dunno coz this isn't a real vulture. Think we need to decide if this glides or anything, if so its wings should be longer for realism, if not its fine! :D

Why not have it glides for some of it's power attacks? It could leap into the air and swoop at the player, in a similar way the mountain lion lunges towards the player. That way you could have a use for it's wings, but it would be limited as a large bird should be.
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That's a pretty good idea nick_op, and doable I think. Welcome to Valenwood Wave
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Thanks. I'm actually working on a couple of creatures for Silgrad Tower at the moment. I managed to get a new animation working in the CS earlier today, though for some reason it didn't work in game.

I might have a go at this werevulture at some point in the future. I don't think the animations would be that tricky, though the skelton would be more complex than what I've done so far.
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Great, I hope you get around to it sometime, looking forward to seeing some modeling on this =)
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