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This allows for the player to easily reach it (mer can reach Aldmeris through Physical means, but you, the player, must enter through magical means), but also satisfies those that say Aldmeris doesn't exist, etc. in the sense that it is an unreachable goal from Nirn. It also explains why some who have searched for Aldmeris have not found it and why some may never have come back. My point in bringing up that theory is that it could be used as a trigger (i.e. passing through the veil between Nirn and where-ever Aldmeris may be) to cause some larger event. Perhaps a plague, perhaps some sort of ancient and unknown Aedra or Daedra that once was an enemy to the Aldmer and was once sealed is now awakened, perhaps it opens Aldmeris up to Nirn allowing for a Tamriellic invasion? Also, I think there should be some sort of need to, even if briefly, unite the races to some degree. I know the Left-Handed elves have been cast into an antagonistic role, but perhaps the king of the Cresmer sees it advantagous for them to get land and be content, so that he may harness their armies to take over Aldmeris. Oh well, just some ideas. I'm rather tired so most of that may be a bit non-sensical and I need to study for a test tomorrow. 'Night all. 2006.09.20 05:15 DarkAsmodeous King of the Kittens Registration Date: 2006.05.25 Posts: 5,338 It would not satisfy anyone. It either exists or it doesn't in my oppion. Those who believe it exists will feel cheated, those who believe it is the archetyple ideal will still be upset that it has any manifestation. but thats just my oppinion, it could have something to do with the shattering of the orb. __________________ The soul's condition is learning to fly Condition grounded, but determined to try Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies Toung-tied and twisted, just an Earth-bound misfit, I 2006.09.20 05:16 Aetherius Viscount Registration Date: 2006.08.02 Posts: 508 Well, atleast it wouldn't COMPLETELY disappoint anyone either, eh And it defines some of the lore of Aldmeris as well. But you said that "you, the player" had to reach it magically, only mer can reach it physically, but what if you play as mer? And I think maybe Aldmeris should be in a different dimension, that only the mer have the ability to access, so to get to Aldmeris, you must find a particular elf on Tamriel. Your idea is good, but I'm not sure yet. DA what do you mean "the shattering of the orb" do you think it would be ok for it to be reached through a different dimension? __________________ Akavir mod texturer and race modder 2006.09.20 05:33 DarkAsmodeous King of the Kittens Registration Date: 2006.05.25 Posts: 5,338 The orb that powered aldmeris and flung a lot of ruble to the sea and destroyed most of old aldmeris. I think if well researched and implemented into existing lroe, then yeah. __________________ The soul's condition is learning to fly Condition grounded, but determined to try Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies Toung-tied and twisted, just an Earth-bound misfit, I 2006.09.20 05:34 Aetherius Viscount Registration Date: 2006.08.02 Posts: 508 Great! VagabondX, with your idea, I'm a bit confused about the location of Aldmeris, is it like inbetween dimensions? __________________ Akavir mod texturer and race modder 2006.09.20 05:40 VagabondX Warder Registration Date: 2006.09.19 Posts: 32 With my idea, it'd sort of exist like the realms of Oblivion... or for the more daring a realm of Aetherius, perhaps because of the worship of Aedra. Essentially, the main point is that it isn't easy to enter. As I said, mer could enter it physically, but to coincide with the player: does the player want to journey south hoping to reach a lost continent some crazy loon of Tamriel is blathering about, or would the player more logically choose to enter through a more magickal path? Plus, it could be argued no one but the various Merish races of Aldmeris know of the way to enter, or that the Mer of Aldmeris are entirely oblivious to it. Or, perhaps it could be left on Nirn, but still veiled. Uh... the Orb... When it was shattered it could of cut Aldmeris off from the world (keeping the whole mer can enter normally, everyone else can physically mindset)? And this Orb, how did it come about? I've only read all the Lore and Race threads, and there's been very little mention of it so far And another question before I forget: What will the general attitude toward the player and the Altmeri Mage with him/her be? I'd assume that, in general, the Left-Handed Elves are the only ones remotely familiar with any none Merish races. Thus, how accepted would two strange (or somewhat similar but still strange) beings be in a grossly Xenophobic society? Or is it not so Xenophobic? 2006.09.21 00:38 DarkAsmodeous King of the Kittens Registration Date: 2006.05.25 Posts: 5,338 This is elder scrolls, so it could be explained through... A prophesy, think of how Cortez made himself accepted by the meso american cultures. __________________ The soul's condition is learning to fly Condition grounded, but determined to try Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies Toung-tied and twisted, just an Earth-bound misfit, I 2006.09.21 01:54 VagabondX Warder Registration Date: 2006.09.19 Posts: 32 Took me a second to guess what you were referring to (which I'm guessing is the acceptance of foreigners). There stands the fact that the Cresmer, and perhaps some other races on Aldmeris, are above the level of the Meso-Americans Culturally, etc. They know enough to be slightly suspicious of whomever you may be... But it may be a good way to become accepted amongst the lesser developed races like the Volsmer. 2006.09.21 02:09 DarkAsmodeous King of the Kittens Registration Date: 2006.05.25 Posts: 5,338 Earning their trust could very well be a major theme. __________________ The soul's condition is learning to fly Condition grounded, but determined to try Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies Toung-tied and twisted, just an Earth-bound misfit, I 2006.09.21 02:12 VagabondX Warder Registration Date: 2006.09.19 Posts: 32 Aye, that iot could. It opens up some good avenues for early quests. But, perhaps to a certain degree, many still would never trust you or never trust you to a large degree. For example, perhaps some Cresmer nobles will put a lot more trust in you than their King, for whatever reasons, but their subjects may regard you as something they shouldn't be near. Period. Or, it could be the opposite with the people... They may see nothing all that wrong with foreiners after a time... Ahe but definately something to explore. 2006.09.21 02:26 Aetherius Viscount Registration Date: 2006.08.02 Posts: 508 It would be VERY difficult to become accepted among the Volsmer, as they do not like tresspassers in their land, if they know it's a threat then they will kill it immediately, if they do not know the business of the one who enters, they would most likely take it prisoner until they know its purpose for being there. If you would want be accepted by a race, the Hosmer would be your best bet, as they are not violent and long for peace. About the location of Aldmeris, what would you prefer DA, my idea, or his, and what would you prefer VagabondX, yours or mine? Maybe a poll? __________________ Akavir mod texturer and race modder 2006.09.21 03:56 DarkAsmodeous King of the Kittens Registration Date: 2006.05.25 Posts: 5,338 Aldmeris should be a continent in my oppinion, but this is no longer my domain. The continent is still effected by the world around it, and it will make the non intercept fanatics happier. __________________ The soul's condition is learning to fly Condition grounded, but determined to try Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies Toung-tied and twisted, just an Earth-bound misfit, I 2006.09.21 03:59 Aetherius Viscount Registration Date: 2006.08.02 Posts: 508 Yeah, because people who do not believe Aldmeris exists, most likely wont be downloading it as much. So we should go with a normal continent. __________________ Akavir mod texturer and race modder 2006.09.21 04:02 Kodama Shogun Registration Date: 2006.09.02 Posts: 2,139 Location: Holland Well, if the player get's to Aldmeris through a teleporter...the player would never find out if Aldmeris is a continent on Nirn or if it's in another world. __________________ Akavir mod leader. 2006.09.21 04:09 DarkAsmodeous King of the Kittens Registration Date: 2006.05.25 Posts: 5,338 And if its through a drug induced meditation, they will never know if its real. __________________ The soul's condition is learning to fly Condition grounded, but determined to try Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies Toung-tied and twisted, just an Earth-bound misfit, I 2006.09.21 04:13 Kodama Shogun Registration Date: 2006.09.02 Posts: 2,139 Location: Holland Hell yeah! Now we're talking __________________ Akavir mod leader. 2006.09.21 04:14 Aetherius Viscount Registration Date: 2006.08.02 Posts: 508 Sweet, so you get drugged from someone while on a quest and wake up on Aldmeris! Yeah! __________________ Akavir mod texturer and race modder 2006.09.21 04:25 VagabondX Warder Registration Date: 2006.09.19 Posts: 32 That seems so... Perfect! *downs some more skooma* But I think if we keep some sort of veil idea then it can just be written off as being somewhere, the player never needing to know. How might the Vesmerkaz view an outsider? And, it's been mentioned somewhere (lore-board?) that the Yokumer/Left-Handed Elves tried to take some of the forests that the Volsmer inhabit, might've burned a few, something similar to that at any rate. Being too lazy to check... If the Yokumer/Left-Handed Mer attack a city that the player is being held prisoner in, and the player helps fight them off, might the Volsmer then trust the player? 2006.09.21 05:10 Aetherius Viscount Registration Date: 2006.08.02 Posts: 508 Yes, they would, but but I don't want the Volsmer to be your primary companion in the game, maybe you stay with them for awhile, then somehow you end up in the hands of a different group and so on. And we would need to decide how the player ends op helping fight off the Yokumer in the first place. __________________ Akavir mod texturer and race modder 2006.09.21 05:38 VagabondX Warder Registration Date: 2006.09.19 Posts: 32 So is the main goal to help get rid of the Yokumer? Is there no way that they can make peace? They are hardy warriors, it wouldn't be incredibly farfetched for one of the nations' leaders to want some sort of force to aid them in a goal thye might have. 2006.09.22 00:25 Pages (4): [1] 2 3 next » ... last » Tree Structure | Board Structure Jump to: Please select: -------------------- Introduction to Silgrad TowerSilgrad Tower Discussion-- The Tavern-- Faq Board---- Tutorials---- Questions related to the Silgrad Tower public releases and the ST bsa.---- Models and textures---- Modding in general.---- Practical Modding info---- Forum / Team---- Miscellaneous---- Game / Performance---- Region generation---- Esm management, CS versions, ST and the SI.---- FAQ Archive-- Soluthis/RP Discussion-- Silgrad Tower Discussion---- Silgrad City Archive-- Steadhelm Discussion---- Steadhelm Archive-- Ebbedin Discussion-- Blacklight---- Blacklight General---- Blacklight Quests---- Morrowind: Blacklight Claims---- Oblivion: Blacklight Claims------ Oblivion: Blacklight Claims: Blacklight------ 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