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VagabondX
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Because a mized society like that doens't work.
A conquesting government will enforce police state, or find some way to keep moral high.
Nationalism will definately be prominent. |
And those who disagree are killed or exiled. Nationalism on the whole
would be high, but not always on the individual level. Some may portray
an outward appearance because they fear death or being removed from
their society.
I hate the stupid posting limits here...
But, in the same small space a definate rift can occur, where neither
side will let their ego down, and where either side will look for an
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DarkAsmodeous
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Absolute freedome is neither the goal, nor a virtue.
Plots have SOME linear elements, otherwise there is little point in having them.
We an portray aspects of their culture, with books and songs, and we
can see some atrocities commited by noth sides, but the enemy need not
be joinable.
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Aetherius
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Perhaps we could do a small rebellion of Yokumer who are against what
the majority think, so they were banned from the province of the
Yokumer, or perhaps they are fugitives of the Yokumer?
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2006.09.23 06:15 |
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VagabondX
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Originally posted by Aetherius
Perhaps we could do a small rebellion of Yokumer who are against what
the majority think, so they were banned from the province of the
Yokumer, or perhaps they are fugitives of the Yokumer? |
And here is the perfect median. Help the rebellion, or see those within as swine like the rest.
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2006.09.23 06:17 |
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DarkAsmodeous
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And Aether.
What SUCCECFUL rebelions do you know that occur against a force that is currently invading a foriegn land IN THE FOREIGN LAND.
It simply adds little and takes much.
I have no authority, you have the final say, but this idea is evolving into a ludicris expression.
It went from valide, lets portray tem differently to a lets throw in another faction!
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Aetherius
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Originally posted by DarkAsmodeous
The people of aldmeris want NO one taking their land. |
The people of Aldmeris are divided as races. And it isn't an unrealistic idea, revolutions do occur. |
I agree, DA what do you mean by "throws the entire political web out of
whack"? It is simple, each race has their own province ang overnment,
the Yokumer simply have a small rebellion, that are fugitives. 
DA: It has nothing to do with current successful rebellions, I never
said that this rebellion was successful, they are fugitives of the
Yokumer, they are running and hiding, and wish to find someway to help
the other races.
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DarkAsmodeous
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Fugatives in land taken by the yokumer, as far as the other races are concerned, both groups would be interlopers.
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VagabondX
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Originally posted by DarkAsmodeous
What SUCCECFUL rebelions do you know that occur against a force that is currently invading a foriegn land IN THE FOREIGN LAND.
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Does it have to have happened in real life in order to happen in a game?
And with that, good night all. I need me a nap, or rest... or... something.
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Aetherius
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Interlopers? One group of Yokumer are running and hiding and wish to
help the other races, it is that simple, please tell me what EXACTLY is
wrong with that?
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DarkAsmodeous
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The Swedish decide to invade the US and take the state of new york.
They begin to live there, a group of swedes fights against the other swedes and keeps the land it takes.
Both would be slaughtered by the US, and that with only ONE country in the mix.
The cresmer would hate them for obvious reasons.
The volsmer as its their land.
The Vesmerkaz because the Cresmer do.
etc.
it just isn't feasible.
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Aetherius
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What about Hosmer? Drethmer? Senmer? Your reason just isn't "feasable"
I'm talking about maybe fighting along side a race, warning them of the
attack before hand.
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2006.09.23 06:33 |
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DarkAsmodeous
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Elves live for a ong time.
This is still the first generation of yokumer to attack.
What are they rebeling agianst? Like we said, the yokumer arn't evil or oppresive.
Just because half the races don't care, doesn't make the fact that the other half would slaughter them.
What do we stand to gain?!
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Aetherius
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Well, as long as we can think of a good reason for the Yokumer to
attack, a reason that will make them seem like a non-evil race, then
ok.
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2006.09.23 06:43 |
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DarkAsmodeous
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Reason, conquest of course.
And as I said, we sill certianly portray them as more than savages, they will have art, books, people, history, pride etc.
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Aetherius
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ok, good.
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VagabondX
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Elves living longer gives them longer to reflect. If some people feel
one way one decade, doesn't mean they'll feel the same way the next.
Anything can cause a change in belief. Not all people of a race worship
the same deity, and if some Yokumer chose a more peaceful belief (say:
kill for justice), but over time, fighting the mer is deemed
unjustifiable or the belief changes to kill under no circumstances,
people might protest, small group or no. And, Aldmeris is big, a group
of fugitives could go to a place with relatively little amounts of
people.
Also, needs being downsized leads to rebellion. If the army is being
overly supplied, and some village has to starve because of it, well...
Some one would get angry. Someone's son dies. A widow's daughter...
People make enough sacrifices and see no results, well, I don't think
they'll take it lightly. They'll be fanaticle, raving mad because they
had to suffer so more Yokumeri soldiers could go and die, when the land
they hold is well enough as is. |
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DarkAsmodeous
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And there you go portraying the yokumer as stereostypical "evil" conquerers.
It simply has no place.
EDIT: I need to stop... This isn't my mod any more, I still am very
attatched to many of these people because... well... I shaped most all
of them a lot. Especialy the Cresmer, vesmerkaz, drethmer, some senmer,
I made some of the prominent regions, I'm sorry about htis.
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