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The Old Ye Bard
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Baron-Kings:
Each Hold (except for the Pale) is ruled by a Baron-King. These lesser Kings command the armies of their hold, take a portion of the taxes from each village within their hold, mediate disputes between villages, pass laws, hold a seat in the --> Imperial Senate <--, as well as a seat in the Council (name pending) that rules over Skyrim, and handle other miscellaneous Kingly affairs. Their power is checked however by the Chieftains within their territory, who hold the power to veto laws the Baron-King passes as well as the power to overthrow him and appoint a new King.

and I found a way to describe it the feeling: the TES feeling. really just when I started oblivion up for the first time


We are not having a council or a senate. We will only have the moot at some point in the MQ, however it will shortly dissolve again. The holds rule seperatly under their own rule.
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however it will shortly dissolve again.

That hasn't been decided yet.

hugie, the Imperial Senate is actually the Elder Council. Yes
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Ok, but I don't think that will be very likely, As the elder council has 30 seats, and that will mean that skyrim takes 9 of the 30 seats. I don't think that will be accepted by the other provinces. I think that only the three most important holds have a Elder Counciller.
( I am the former leader of the government/council mod so I'm very obsessed with this subject :) )

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ok, but I don't think that will be very likely, as the elder council has 30 seats, and that will mean that skyrim takes 9 of the 30 seats. I don't think that will be accepted by the other provinces. I think that only the three most important holds have a Elder Counciller.
(i am the former leader of the government/council mod so i'm very obsessed with this subjest :eek:)


There would probably be someone from Winterhold on the council, seeing as it is the capitol.

However it isn't Important to our mod as we aren't dealing with Cyrodiil and so the person/people on the council won't be in our mod.
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There would probably be someone from Winterhold on the council, seeing as it is the capitol.

However it isn't Important to our mod as we aren't dealing with Cyrodiil and so the person/people on the council won't be in our mod.


oh ok, but as my granny always says:*granny voice* "You need to watch to the details, my little stupid boy"

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I would imagine that each hold has a seat on the imperial council.
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3 representatives per province is probably a reasonable number of delegates for the Elder Council... that leaves 6 seats in total for Cyrodiil as the main province of The Empire.
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3 representatives per province is probably a reasonable number of delegates for the Elder Council... that leaves 6 seats in total for Cyrodiil as the main province of The Empire.


You've also got the fighter's Guild and the mage's guild seats to think off.

But really this is getting off topic and isn't important what so ever.
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3 representatives per province is probably a reasonable number of delegates for the Elder Council... that leaves 6 seats in total for Cyrodiil as the main province of The Empire.


You've also got the fighter's Guild and the mage's guild seats to think off.

But really this is getting off topic and isn't important what so ever.

6 of which 2 would be for the Fighter's and Mage's Guild, but it's not important.
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3 representatives per province is probably a reasonable number of delegates for the Elder Council... that leaves 6 seats in total for Cyrodiil as the main province of The Empire.


no cyrodill has also 3 councillors, the other three seat are for the elder-chancellor, the advisor of the emperor (as the council and emperor ar not each other best friends) and a seat for the representive of the church (nine divines). The guilds don't have a own councillors but some councillors are supporters of the guilds so they do have infleunce.

(sorry for beening off-topic)

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3 representatives per province is probably a reasonable number of delegates for the Elder Council... that leaves 6 seats in total for Cyrodiil as the main province of The Empire.


no cyrodill has also 3 councillors, the other three seat are for the elder-chancellor, the advisor of the emperor (as the council and emperor ar not each other best friends) and a seat for the representive of the church (nine divines). The guilds don't have a own councillors but some councillors are supporters of the guilds so they do have infleunce.

(sorry for beening off-topic)


That's your own lore from your mod, not official lore.
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3 representatives per province is probably a reasonable number of delegates for the Elder Council... that leaves 6 seats in total for Cyrodiil as the main province of The Empire.


no cyrodill has also 3 councillors, the other three seat are for the elder-chancellor, the advisor of the emperor (as the council and emperor ar not each other best friends) and a seat for the representive of the church (nine divines). The guilds don't have a own councillors but some councillors are supporters of the guilds so they do have infleunce.

(sorry for beening off-topic)


That's your own lore from your mod, not official lore.

It's not official, but it makes more sense.
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Excuse me, but the word "Baron-king" sounds awful compared to Jarl.
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Excuse me, but the word "Baron-king" sounds awful compared to Jarl.

That might be, but it's official lore.
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There isn't a lot about the current political climate of Skyrim, however there is some interesting little tidbits of lore scattered here and there. Most of it is contained within this article on TIL.

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Excuse me, but the word "Baron-king" sounds awful compared to Jarl.

That might be, but it's official lore.


Ah. I misread then.
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Oh, and the Moot can be called, there just needs to be no direct heir to the throne.....leads to some intriguing thoughts Yes

There hasn't been a legitimate heir to the throne of Skyrim for a long time... not a problem. Pleased


But that is because Skyrim hasn't been united in a long time. There probably is still a strong line of Kings who have a right to claim the throne.


Although this is of little importance , would that line be the Ysgramor dynasty?

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I think the Empire is key in ensuring Skyrim remains split between squabbling holds. Any descendants of the original rulers of Skyrim would likely be unaware of their heritage, and the existing Kings and Barons would probably be less than keen to give up any power.
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i'd have thought that the baron-king of winterhold or windhelm would be in the bloodline of those thanes or what they were called

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