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I actually already replied at DA, but I'll reply here too anyway. I do everything in photoshop, so yes, the background is purely digital, no real paper was used.
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I actually already replied at DA, but I'll reply here too anyway. I do everything in photoshop, so yes, the background is purely digital, no real paper was used.


Thanks, I can't accese DA for some reason. Confused

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Hmm yes, I could use that, the crystal(daedra summoning) I can use them for my cathedral etc. btw I finally finished sketching :D now I can color it, need to color it for 80% tomorrow, but I got all day. Anyway I'm going to bed.
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New sketches always make me happy :) Lets see what you've made Mormacil.
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@Raggidman:
Making the bridges a network of roots growing from branch to branch connecting to various areas is a good idea. In fact, the roots could actually be offshoots of the root buildings. I'm not sure whether or not planting a symbiotic plant on the tree is in breach of the green pact though. The plant buildings would feed off of the main tree for sustenance, but wouldn't cause it serious harm.
About the marble buildings, you're right, they would have to belong to the rich Bosmer, and they would probably be attatched directly to the trunk, not on branches, since they'd be the heaviest buildings.

I think that most of my designs were in line with the green pact, with the possible exception of the wooden ladder leading up to the root building, but it could easily be wood imported from another province, or wood from an already dead tree. The Bosmer can't cut down living trees, but if it's already dead, they can harvest it, I think.
As for the leaf acting as a ramp/door, while it is a cool idea, it seems a little uneccessary. If the interior is going to be a seperate cell, there wouldn't need to be any animation, since it would just trigger a loading screen immediately. Maybe the leaf could be the ramp, then there would be a silk or canvas curtain for a door, or something more solid, like deadwood. Or even another leaf, really. Maybe I'll do a few door sketches to open up options so we can customize each building a little.

I'm not sure what crystal obelisks you're referring to, but it sounds like an interesting idea. Maybe the ones with crystals and bound creatures would be the homes of Bosmer spellcasters, where you would go to learn spells, and the ones with stone obelisks would just be regular people's houses.
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Hmm as far as I know Bosmer neither harvest dead trees. But they import wooden things, they seem to love woodcrafted objects from Cyrodill.
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They don't harvest dead trees. But when a tree dies (the trees are big in Valenwood, and live longer) they have a sort of revelry. And since the bosmer are known not to waste many things, they would proably use it for something.

And tanesh: I do not think that the symbiotic would be a breach of the Green pact, as that talks more about killing trees, and directly harming them.

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I see. I must have misread something then.
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I see. I must have misread something then.


Thats ok. Valenwood has complicated lore, especially when it comes to the Green pact. By the way, to all our contributing concept artists: People over at the ESf are really liking the art work, so keep it up Good job!
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I just saw the thread asking for modellers. I thought I should mention that the big things sticking out of the roof of the marble building I designed weren't intended to be crystals, they were supposed to look like leaves carved from stone. They could be crystals too though, I'm not picky.
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The problem with stones is: Bosmer are useless with them. Although considering that these are the Upper Class, it may be that they highered someone with more knowledge about stones than them. The texture will define how they look in the end though, and it can always be changed to what suits best.

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Towns have stone walls though
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I have not seen the rule for that. We can make walls out of what ever materials that are available to to the Bosmeri People. Stone can also be used for walls, but that is much easier to make than full blown architecture in the shape of leaves.
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My pen's first impression, although this one appears too Telvanni, I suppose.



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My pen's first impression, although this one appears too Telvanni, I suppose


Looking great. Good job! Perhaps some sort of hermit's hideout?

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I like how it shows the natural type of houses in Valenwood, great work Good job! Valenwood will have some Telvanni influence. Seeing as they also 'grow' their homes.

EDIT: I figure Nice is a very generic word, and will try to stop using it from now on :)

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A secondary one, smaller and more profile. I'm just in love with the whole bonsai branch thing, as you can tell :D

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Hehe, indeed you are. A problem this may have as a model is the stairs, aparently stairs in oblivion can only be so steep before it starts to 'whack' (for lack of a better word) out. Again, great concept.
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I love your bonsai concept. I think it can best be used in a somewaht hilly area close to Summerset Isle, maybe surrounded by pineforests. Hmm maybe I gonna sketch some things tomorrow =)

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I have not seen the rule for that. We can make walls out of what ever materials that are available to to the Bosmeri People. Stone can also be used for walls, but that is much easier to make than full blown architecture in the shape of leaves.


I mean in Dance in the Fire a town surrounded by a stone wall is mentioned and burned down.
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Do the stones have to be from gathered rocks, or can they be cut rock? Someone posted an idea about the Green Pact referring to digging rock or metals from the land as well as harming trees. I dunno

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Do the stones have to be from gathered rocks, or can they be cut rock? Someone posted an idea about the Green Pact referring to digging rock or metals from the land as well as harming trees. I dunno


thats not right.. they can do things with stone as much as they want to..
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Where are them modelers :D


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Concept by gervas. :)



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Concept by gervas. :)

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I knew there was something I was forgetting. Thank you Arbiter.
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Amazing concept made by colinlaflin:

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l303/colinlaflin/valenwoodhousejpeg-1.jpg

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Amazing concept made by colinlaflin:

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That is amazing work. Cyrodiilic, Impereal, but this is perfect for using at the border. And we need to remember that the Imperials were sent to rebuild.
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I love the windows. Very nice catch. FLESH I'll try to keep that in mind, hmm yes some tree shaped pillars, some fresco's...
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Well here are two concepts I found, which might help architecturally wise:


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Both are from Lothlorien. They use wood, we can't really because of the Green Pact. But thanks anyway. Furhter copywright is a problem Wink We can't really reporduce what on the sketches...
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For a brief moment I thought you modeled those. :D

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I think I got even one of his pictures in a book of concept art of LotR, and is anyone else pratically unable to use this forum? I can't seem to load more then one page every 10 mins Frown It really sucks... mail me, don't PM Tongue
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Thank you for the concepts Killamike. What we need to think is this: These Bosmer a living near the border (as that is our main concentration point right now, however that doesn't mean we can't work on other parts in concepting aswell), they would need to adapt to some imperial ways, would they even go so far as to use wood for their housings?

Maybe they use contractors to build it for them? If any of those are true then Killamikes pictures (yes, I know they are from LotR) make a lot of sense.
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Its a pity we cant use the LOTR stuff, those structures never cease to amaze me.

The second picture is how I imagine Falinesti.
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Its a pity we cant use the LOTR stuff, those structures never cease to amaze me.

The second picture is how I imagine Falinesti.


It would be very small for Falinesti, but it's a good guess at how it will look like, and my own image is a bit like that too.
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Bigger? Awesome :D
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It's merely for inspiration, although I agree about the better part :D
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Fianlly new architecture :D It's a house inside a "hill" with a tree on it. The house is fortified by all the roots that run through it. The entrance is a gate from big flowerplants, like some sort of rose. Then it's connected to the "hill" by some sort of tunnel of leaves. Anyway I proberbly upload another sketch of the entrance etc. Now I'm dead tired and haven't slept good for week, because of schoolprojects...
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It's very nice, but I'm wondering about the practicality of it for normal people. I'm thinking this one is for castle type defenses or royalty.
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It isn't that big and you live underground between the roots so I say common style.
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The problem is it doesn't look common, but at the same time I don't want you to change it because I like it. It seems better suited for Higher ups.
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